Situation Room [Game Over!]

[Gamma Emerald]

The thing about Dusa’s posting that’s making me upset is shit like “collecting ambrosia”. Like, what’s that got to do with ANYTHING? Maybe it’s connected to some game or show I’m not aware of but until that’s confirmed it just looks like nonsense

[northsidegal]

Votecount 1.7

Target	Wagon
Gamma Emerald (5)	FakeGod (91), Bell (95), Hypothermia (134), Qoobee (137), Save The Dragons (195)
Hypothermia (2)	Dannflor (151), GuiltyLion (189)
Dusa (1)	Gamma Emerald (119)
Yuri Gagarin (1)	Solo (181)
Cupcake Butterfly (1)	UNOwen (185)
GuiltyLion (1)	Yuri Gagarin (199)
Solo (1)	Dusa (238)
Not Voting (5)	Bingle, OkaPoka, Cupcake Butterfly, DrippingGoofball, LavarManos

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to eliminate. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2021-06-25 19:26:59).

[Bell]

Ambrosia is a material you need in the game, hades, that they’re a gimmick of. It’s just a collectible that allows you to unlock abilities, weapons, and perks in that game.

Also, how do you not know that the game hade’s exist?

[GuiltyLion]

She's roleplaying as the character Dusa from Hades and making references to that. you should play that game if you're at all a video gamer, one of the best titles of last year

Dann, did you answer my question about your Bell townread?

[GuiltyLion]

Gamma at that point I believe had three votes; he engaged with one with sarcasm but did not make an attempt to really communicate with the people on him. Instead he sees someone who expressed a want to vote him and voted there, which is... confusing to me. I would want to understand more why a small wagon had formed on me even if it’s early, and I was imposing that onto Gamma as well. Engaging with someone on the merits of their posting style felt to me like it was a veiled attempt to dissuade Dusa from that sentiment in an aggressive manner.

Alternatively, I guess it could just be scum!Gamma not knowing how to engage with “stronger” players on his wagon yet but that more than anything is where I feel I’d be uncharitable. But it was the thing that pinged me in this game so far.

You’re correct that I’ve invented motivation though, but that’s just the point of scumhunting I think.

Thanks for this reply, I see where you're coming from a bit better. I think we may have a clash of playstyle/philosophy here, IMO usually (but especially early game) you gotta just take what people give you at face value, if you invent motivations/narratives for why someone's play is scummy you can almost always come up with a plausible scum-agenda explanation for a lot of town play and IMO that's what scum use to their advantage to push fake scumreads

another question, how likely do you think it is that all five players who voted Gamma are town?

[Gamma Emerald]

Ambrosia is a material you need in the game, hades, that they’re a gimmick of. It’s just a collectible that allows you to unlock abilities, weapons, and perks in that game.

Also, how do you not know that the game hade’s exist?

I know of it but not the mechanics

[Dusa]

GuiltyLion seems good!

[Gamma Emerald]

GAMMA EMERALD's probably town for an annoyance-vote on DUSA and then openly admitting it's there because he's annoyed at the gimmick, rather than faking a jabbernut reason

Gamma Emerald isn't that bad at being bad! He wouldn't make that mistake! He's experienced enough for at least 11 heat!

I don’t get what you’re saying here

[GuiltyLion]

VOTE: Solo

I think it's less likely a scum!Hypothermia is upfront about inventing motivation so explicitly, I don't detect any self-consciousness there

I think Solo's townrerad on Oka might be fake, I was debating whether to wait for an answer from Solo on my question re:Bell and whether there was an acknowledgment to some of the pushback on that read, but I'ma go ahead and vote cause I don't like my Hypothermia vote anymore.

Solo, how much mafia have you played previously?

[GuiltyLion]

sorry EBWOP - some of the pushback on that read* - referring to Solo's Oka townread

[GuiltyLion]

also

@northsidegal

- not a big deal, but FakeGod voted Gamma in 91, not 85

corrected, thanks.
-nsg

[Bingle]

VOTE: STD

[Dannflor]

VOTE: solo

I can give a more thorough answer when I get home from work GuiltyLion, but I do see the case for Bell being a bit LAMIST, in fact that’s why I was pushing him for content early on. Once he moved away from mech talk I got less of those vibes and I thought his initial impressions were fairly nuanced + his frequent posting has seemed pretty natural compared to where I sometimes felt he was forcing himself to post in a stilted manner when he was scum

[Bell]

I’m always almost as town thoigh. I don’t hide my alignment out loud and purposely remove filters so others can get my thought process. I only do that sometimes though, depending on my position in the game I might be downright mercurial. I’m a mixed bag.

[Bell]

Phone post autocorrected me. Blah. I’m usually very lamist as town.

[Dusa]

Look at me! I'm a gorgon!

[FakeGod]

I am glad that you too noticed that Bell is a smidge crankier than usual.

Give me the word. My body is ready.

[FakeGod]

I was gonna yell at Dusa but damn

this is pretty obviously an experienced player

[Dusa]

You're not a real god! Are you a demigod?!?!?!

[Bell]

Dann/Solo can you elaborate on your Bell townreads? I don't especially scumread him but I got a vaguely lamist vibe from a number of his early posts and I'm not seeing why one should be confident to shelve him as town this early

This feels kind of dry.

Default townread bell trust me, if hes scum he historically becomes very obvious and with a setup like this u just gotta put faith

Don't ask people to trust you in a game of mafia. Also, it makes more sense just to sort me early because it gives town the advantage, how you get to sorting me correctly however is an entirely different matter. This game is slow though, I'm almost on my second reread and trying to figure out if Qoobie is really good scum or just town.

I don't understand why Yuri voted Bingle.

[Bell]

VOTE: STD

[OkaPoka]

Bell you are so lucky ive played with scum you twice

[Bell]

Help, I’m being oppressed!

[northsidegal]

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[northsidegal]

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