Micro 1020: To Tell the Truth [Game over]

[Dwlee99]

Massclaim?
I'll go first, townie.
VOTE: infinity

[Dwlee99]

It's a sad day when the townbot rolls scum

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: T3
Okay E-1 this

[Dwlee99]

Wait that was hammer omg

[Dwlee99]

Pooky doesn't deserve votes even if t3 flips town. Look at their profile picture.

[Dwlee99]

Who wants to PM Ircher and Umlaut? We probably shouldn't all do it.

[Dwlee99]

Clidd is conftown and infinity is weird champ for suggesting that we just kill me based on probability. I don't even know if the math is right but I have to double check it.

[Dwlee99]

ok hear me out
we yeet the obvious quickhammering scum first
then we use info tomorrow

VOTE: pooky

actually dwlee might as well be scum too because the "ok e-1 this" and "wAiT wAs tHaT HaMmEr" are kinda awful actually but whatever

That isn't even fair. I didn't say "was that hammer" I was "that was hammer." Scum misrep?

[Dwlee99]

No Datisi I just think you don't know how to read me.

[Dwlee99]

This is literally the exact same thing that happened with Cakey in C9++. This weird "wow you must be scum" for a comment like "scum misrep?" which isn't meant to be serious. Should I call it the Dwlee tell?

[Dwlee99]

If only I knew Pooky's alignment.

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Arcangel9
Hard gut vote here.

[Dwlee99]

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I can make any comments tyvm. Not sold on scum!pooky.

[Dwlee99]

If clidd is scum, the chance that he would be named as town is 1/2 * 6/8 = 3/8. My intuition says that the probability he's scum would go down to 3/8 ÷ (3/8 + 3), or 1/9. If someone knows stats they can correct me on that.

If dwlee is town, the probability that they'd be named as scum is 1/2 * 2/8 = 1/8. Again, my intuition says that the probability that they're town is 3/8 ÷ (3/8 + 1) = 3/11. Wow that's really low. I hate it but I think the correct play is to elim dwlee and not think about the wine too much.

VOTE: dwlee

Also this math is bad but I can't tell if it's scum math or town math.

[Dwlee99]

It's about the way I said it. Scum misrep? reads to me sarcastically sort of. Idk how to phrase the way I speak IRL.

Angel is my vote because I think her reaction coming into today was bad. What are your thoughts on 50?

[Dwlee99]

Explain pooky!scum other than quickhammer

[Dwlee99]

But if he quickhammered scum you'd call him town?

[Dwlee99]

Yes I was about to say that and disagree on town!pooky not hammering.

[Dwlee99]

Murdercat is second scum. Arcangel/Murdercat/?? We wait to see.

[Dwlee99]

Oh also cause I'm pretty sure angel is scum and pooky is town.

[Dwlee99]

You should also include the probability of clidd getting selected because we would be having this same conversation if that happened but about clidd.

@pav he just gives me town vibes and I would have hammered that too. T3 was bad vibes.

[Dwlee99]

Angel is my vote because I think her reaction coming into today was bad

say more then

She has one post lol

[Dwlee99]

I've played with t3 before and that was especially bad.

[Dwlee99]

It's 5/8 because there are 3 scum...

[Dwlee99]

It's not "very unlikely," it's 3/8 when scum pick two town.

he just gives me town vibes

how tf does pooky give you town vibes here

Reaction to t3 "confession"

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Murdercat
Murdercat is open wolf mode here.

[Dwlee99]

Y'all flipping scum is all a coin flip for me here so it's kind of entertaining.

Pedit: it's funny cause 3/8 is the same as the chance a random player is scum assuming no alignment information has been given lol

[Dwlee99]

Pooky we get angel or MURDERCAT first

[Dwlee99]

Infinity I need you to walk me through how this is a guilty if the true result is clidd.

[Dwlee99]

My solve is Pav/MURDERCAT/Angel and if I'm right I absolve all responsibility if y'all death tunnel into us losing next day phase.

[Dwlee99]

Infinity I need you to walk me through how this is a guilty if the true result is clidd.

We still call it a tracker guilty even if weirdness could've happened

Same with a gunsmith guilty

This is closer to that than really any play-based scumtell

If clidd was the real result then my result is complete noise. My alignment would have nothing to do with whether I got guilty or town.

[Dwlee99]

If clidd was the real result then my result is complete noise. My alignment would have nothing to do with whether I got guilty or town.

I went through the math but like

It's very unlikely for town to get a mafia result. Even if clidd is the true result you still will more often than not get a town result.

37.5% of the time I get a guilty when it's being randed. Yes "more often than not" but you'd literally hand scum the game if they selected two townies every night phase and you yeeted on a guilty.

[Dwlee99]

I'm gonna disconnect from the game to hopefully let other people contribute so I can feel better about my solve. Pooky and Datisi I'm sure you'll eventually get over your spat.

[Dwlee99]

Okay I'm back because I was talked to. I agree scum are done because they've now enabled me to get a PoE pool of 6 people and I'm pretty sure it's solved unless you faked that townslip.

[Dwlee99]

Dumb* EBWOP

[Dwlee99]

Okay popping in again to say that angel is literally just OMGUSing me right now and I'm not even voting her anymore anyway

[Dwlee99]

Dwlee99 is guilty or clidd is innocent

Also this is how clidd is conftown

[Dwlee99]

MURDERCAT come back to me when you figure out how to fake a read on me that isn't based on a 3/8 chance clidd or I get appear guilty on day start.

[Dwlee99]

Gladiator: MURDERCAT

[Dwlee99]

I wasn't even surprised it was a hammer I knew it was a hammer when the vote came out so I couldn't have been faking anything. What part of "that was a hammer" immediately after he voted is surprise.

[Dwlee99]

MURDERCAT if you're town you would know why I'm not scum here so you're scum.

[Dwlee99]

And "misreps about the math"

[Dwlee99]

omg is surprise that he hammered not that it was hammer.

[Dwlee99]

You know why scum picks two town? Because "town or town" (the most likely outcome) is hella easy to just go "wow we learned nothing from that!) And then if you get a guilty then you can hop in thread and go "well mathematically it just makes sense that they're scum"

Pedit: homie do you think I told Pooky to hammer in our PT and then acted surprised by it?

[Dwlee99]

MURDERCAT I feel like you when you correctly read LLD and were killed for it

[Dwlee99]

And there was a 3/16 chance clidd would have been guiltied too...

[Dwlee99]

Like infinity you know that in half of all scenarios the alignment I get shown as isn't alignment indicative at all?

[Dwlee99]

Maybe it's Pooky + Arc + Dwlee.

If we agree on arc then let's go there?

[Dwlee99]

Actually in zero scenarios I'm confirmed scum

[Dwlee99]

Your 50/50 thing doesn't even make sense because from my point of view you have a 50% chance of being scum. Okay guess I'll just throw you out the nearest window then

[Dwlee99]

Everyone has a 3/7 chance of being scum fypov

Fmpov the chance that you are scum is 11/16 but it's actually more because I didn't exclude myself

I'm done with this conversation

No, Clidd is conftown and remove me that is 3/6.

[Dwlee99]

Massclaim?
I'll go first, townie.
VOTE: infinity

VOTE: T3
Okay E-1 this

X:01

VOTE: t3

2nd page still decent

X:04

It was literally 3 minutes apart, yes I think it was coordinated

Maybe it's Pooky + Arc + Dwlee.

If we agree on arc then let's go there?

I want to talk to Pooky first. Depending on whether my read on him is right or not, the rest of my reads can change (and my vote too).

How does Pooky alignment impact arc?

Also I'm sorry for being snippy about this math conversation ftr but I'm sure you'd all be annoyed if people were acting like you've been nailed as scum because of a 3/8 chance on a scum decision while the person who orchestrated it is open wolfing.

[Dwlee99]

Well you can't treat Clidd as conftown if you think the result on me was the truthful one.

[Dwlee99]

if i was in the scum pt coordinating with my homie d-lee to quick-hammer T3 on Page 2,

I'd be like, "let's vote him at the exact same time" and then we can pretend it's an accident

and then we'd be on discord counting down like nerds.

you cant seriously think I'd be an incompetent buffoon

I love you pooky

[Dwlee99]

Pooky I'm pretty sure the answer is just that MC is scum

[Dwlee99]

My WIM is enormous that's why.

[Dwlee99]

Dwlee, how sure (%) are you on MC being scum?

Like 90%

Also can you explain why you're SRing him? Besides, like, the fact that he's voting you based on some mechanical evidence

You were doing that too so it's not just that.

The thing that MC is doing is using discussion of the mech to justify his insistence that I'm evil, and I don't think he has seriously entertained the idea of us being TvT like he should if he is town.

I also think that besides talking about me, his play is woefully lacking in any sort of solving. I don't think I'm misremembering when I say that I don't think MURDERCAT has even explained a single read other than insisting I'm scum on mech. He implicitly said that Arc is scum, but that comes across in way more of a "yes she is my scum buddy and I will bus her" way than a town!way. Why is she scum? He never even tries to solve her.

He also nitpicked me saying she was scummy for her posts only to come around on thinking she was scum (again with no reasons).

Again on him lacking reads, he hasn't given an opinion on Pooky besides saying he will probably be the days' elimination. Okay, so what does he think about that? Like he is just going to consolidate on it because it's inevitable? He should be trying to sort Pooky instead of defaulting to "he will be yeeted today" if he is town.

[Dwlee99]

Also forgot to add this: to a certain degree I can also just PoE here. I'm the only one who can confirm Clidd as town, and knowing I'm also town means that anyone else has a 50% chance of being scum. I townread infinity and I think both Datisi and Pooky are town (at most one scum imo) and so that leaves two of MC/Arc/Pav if not all of them.

[Dwlee99]

I agree about the singular focus that MC is giving to only one read (and neglecting the scumhunt of other slots), but I don't think it's enough for "90%" of sure that he's scum. I also disagree on the possibility of TvT between Pooky and Datisi - they're clearly TvS or (assuming good theater) SvS imo.

If you had to choose, who would you pick for scum between Arc and Pav (by PoE).

Arc. Pav is scummy because I feel like their posts kinda skirt discussion but arc was moreso for their reaction to daystart and my posts.

[Dwlee99]

I still think his posts after t3 hammer were townie and his fight with Datisi seems genuine. I also feel like we kind of mind melded there on some things. If you told me one of Pooky/Dats was scum I wouldn't be sure who to pick, because I think their play both makes sense as town.

[Dwlee99]

You raise some decent points and like I don't have pooky is necessarily out of scum range here (nor are a lot of people), I just think they are more townie than the other three.

[Dwlee99]

It just doesn't give me the same feelings as scum!Pooky did when I played with scum!Pooky.

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Arc

[Dwlee99]

Clidd
Infinity
Datisi
Pooky
Pav
MC/Arc

[Dwlee99]

You're solvey and all the slots below you are worse (yes I think you're more townie than Pooky now). Infinity is above you because of the slip mainly I hope I'm not mistakenly putting too much stake in that.

[Dwlee99]

Each player has a base probability of being town at 6/9

It's 6/8 cause there are 8 players alive.

It's 5/8 because there are 3 scum...

Yes I definitely knew that.

[Dwlee99]

Aside from this slip you're higher than infinity on my reads list.

[Dwlee99]

If it isn't a slip I think it isn't faked, just a brain fart moment.

[Dwlee99]

if Pooky flips town, Dwlee would be my auto-elim next day

This is scum

[Dwlee99]

Mmm that makes more sense okay. Still think you're scum but it's not as clear

[Dwlee99]

What the hell. Never kill Clidd because I effectively have a clear on him.

[Dwlee99]

How did you clear him as town?

I cop checked him last night.

[Dwlee99]

At the start of the day I said "clidd is confirmed town"

[Dwlee99]

Well that's e-1, and I can't tell if arc didn't read the setup or is pretending not to have.

[Dwlee99]

This is the open queue. Not knowing amount of scum or misspeaking about it (a la Infinity) is one thing but missing the big "Dwlee is guilty or Clidd is innocent" umlaut posted, there not being a night kill, signing up for the game in the open queue, etc?

[Dwlee99]

you think someone would do that? go in a mafia game and lie?

[Dwlee99]

Pooky can you give reads on anyone but dats

[Dwlee99]

Okay vote Arc let's get it done

[Dwlee99]

Well we all know if that didn't happen t3 would endgame

[Dwlee99]

Hi guys what if we killed arc then MC then we can figure out y'all's spat.

[Dwlee99]

dwlee i just started to think you're town what the fuck are you doing

Trying to not have pooky die cause I think they're an adorable awesome bear and we have other people much more likely to flip scum

[Dwlee99]

Still think Pooky flips town here for the doubters.

[Dwlee99]

Dogs vs cats mafia. I caught him day one (as a different scum faction) cause he was hyperfocused on one specific player I thought was town and didn't do anything besides saying "this player is evil" despite me debunking his arguments. Okay maybe there's a point to him maybe being scum here when I really think about it but I still stand by the vibe being different.

[Dwlee99]

And like part of this is I think he has much less scum equity than arc or MC. Maybe the team is arc/mc/Pooky but pooky would be my last Lim in there. The other thing is I feel like MC was way too casual about how pooky should just default be the day's Lim and given my scumread of MC that doesn't give me good feelings on killing there.

VOTE: Arcangel9
Hard gut vote here.

Why not pooky?

Is there anyone defending pooky other than the person with the guilty..?

Y'all we have a guilty

Pooky is scum too but

Y'all

It's probably going to be pooky today anyway lmao

[Dwlee99]

Also more pre-flip associatives: arc just derp voted there after I claimed cop.

[Dwlee99]

I'd need to see reason to think two people are bussing Pooky rn to think they're evil.

[Dwlee99]

Dogs vs cats mafia. I caught him day one (as a different scum faction) cause he was hyperfocused on one specific player I thought was town and didn't do anything besides saying "this player is evil" despite me debunking his arguments. Okay maybe there's a point to him maybe being scum here when I really think about it but I still stand by the vibe being different.

According to this meta, you should get the impression that Pooky is scum here, unless you have a really good behavioral analytics capacity to differentiate that Pooky is town even though his play is perfectly possible for scum!Pooky.

Yeah sure it's not out of scum range for him, I said that earlier. Still think he is town.

Hum.. I agree that MC and Angel are scummy (in the sense of lack of solving), but I don't see exactly how Pooky would be any different from that.

Pooky gave his reads and is actually towntelling unlike either of the people who in my mind would have to be bussing for pooky!scum.

[Dwlee99]

Clidd who do you think is scummier, MC or Arc?

[Dwlee99]

I'm mostly agreeing. I'm still baffled by her not understanding the setup but with your blessing I'm moving my vote
VOTE: MC

[Dwlee99]

Okay I'm not sure why I thought you said anything about arc and now I'm confused.

[Dwlee99]

You're still scum tho sorry my guy.

[Dwlee99]

Your scumread of pooky is bad for the record. You haven't said anything about him other than he is scum and you think me E-1ing and him hammering was coordinated. You're also just not playing like I think town!you would here. I hate meta normally but your vibe is completely different and you're not responding the way I'm expecting you would as town. And there is a specific thing I've been expecting you to say or at least suggest here that I 100% town!you would think to say.

[Dwlee99]

Datisi who are the bussers if Pooky is scum?

[Dwlee99]

My point is assume that Pooky is scum, find two potential teammates, does this world make sense?

[Dwlee99]

Why are you being purposefully obstinate?

[Dwlee99]

Arc - derp vote
MC - casual "Pooky is the Lim" vibe
Pav - this one I could see
Infinity - also could see this world existing
You - would have to be a hard bus
Clidd - conftown

[Dwlee99]

That's kind of a good point and he quoted infinity's post for killing me before Pooky based on the start of day statement. Have a nice nap

[Dwlee99]

Who am I voting

[Dwlee99]

Who I am voting*

[Dwlee99]

And there is a specific thing I've been expecting you to say or at least suggest here that I 100% town!you would think to say.

For the record I hate this argument in all its forms. Like "there's this magic thing you could say that would convince me, but because you haven't said it you're scum". NAI to me for Dwlee or for Pooky, but I don't think it's a fair argument.

Clidd what sounds fake about MC?

I don't love the Pooky flailing but it fits with my read of the slot as "chaotic". Not feeling the AtE though

Arc isn't doing much to move the needle and I still don't see why she thinks Clidd makes sense as an elim today

It's because MC has seen my scum game and he isn't asking the right question essentially.

[Dwlee99]

Why are you stuck on Pooky when the evil murderous cat has made himself known?

[Dwlee99]

If we kill MC I'll join you on Pooky tomorrow cause killing MC nets us an extra miselim.

[Dwlee99]

How did you clear him as town?

I cop checked him last night.

How did you clear him as town?

I cop checked him last night.

When did you claim? Did you share your night result?

At the start of the day I said "clidd is confirmed town"

At the start of the day I said "clidd is confirmed town"

But you never claimed so what makes you believe that we use that it was a cop claim.

So why you didn't claim then and doing it now. I have asked the same question in the past too.

In the mean while.. I am good with this for now.

VOTE: Pooky

She put him to E-1 after I guess in her brain two of her scum pool were cleared? Because I claimed cop with an inno on the other person in her scum pool? This is the derp vote.

If we kill MC I'll join you on Pooky tomorrow cause killing MC nets us an extra miselim.

We can't let Pooky escape today for free, unless you convince me that Pooky isn't scum (or that MC is way more likely to be scum than Pooky).

I haven't seen enough to think that Pooky is out of town range but have for MC. I'm at like >90% on MC rn.

[Dwlee99]

I don't think that pooky and you are scum together, arc.

[Dwlee99]

*furiously googles Bayes theorem*

[Dwlee99]

Actually the chance the guilty is correct is 0 :^)

[Dwlee99]

Infinity do you remember the C9++ game?

[Dwlee99]

Earlier you were saying that it makes sense for scum to pick Clidd cause he will obvtown, but what do you think about scum picking me based on that game?

[Dwlee99]

I mean based on my play. Like does my town playstyle make you think anything about why scum would pick me here?

[Dwlee99]

Okay we seem to be on completely different pages about my performance in C9++.

[Dwlee99]

Vote MC all the cool kids are doing it.

[Dwlee99]

I could see a plausible argument for anyone other than me and Clidd tbh. Most sold on arc and then one of pav or Pooky cause someone on the team is probably gonna bus.

[Dwlee99]

Hey guys I wanna see another of those cool conjunctions let's kill the cat

[Dwlee99]

Put that in your scum pt question mark?

[Dwlee99]

Infinity makes a lot of sense as MC's partner imo.

[Dwlee99]

You're still scum tho sorry my guy.

How can I still be scum when a major reason you are scum reading me is completely fabricated lmao

What?

And there is a specific thing I've been expecting you to say or at least suggest here that I 100% town!you would think to say.

Which is?

Let's see if I can lead you to it: What's my scum game normally like?

[Dwlee99]

Okay so you townread me. And I was widely townread in general that game. So what does that suggest about my scum play?

[Dwlee99]

Okay you're close enough: why would I ever select myself to get possibly guiltied as scum? If I was scum I'd be risking a 3/16 of not endgaming because Clidd and I both came up guilty. I'd also be risking a 11/16 chance to have a guilty show up next to my name regardless of what happened on clidd? I can endgame as scum and prefer to. So why would I put myself into that pool?

[Dwlee99]

Well you're getting run up because you're evil and I'm not. I feel very bad if I'm wrong here because I've been a bit abrasive at times but I'm pretty sure you're flipping red.

[Dwlee99]

Could you give your thoughts on this for us slow kids in the back of the class?

Oh right I forgot to talk about this. MC and Infinity are both positioning themselves around this "Dwlee or Pooky should be the elim" vibe. Infinity seems to lightly distance at times, saying MC seems scummy but not really commiting to anything solid on the slot. Makes me feel like there is equity in them being scum together.

[Dwlee99]

Calling two of Dats/Arc/Pav to end the life of a murderous cat

[Dwlee99]

We needed all five town to vote scum or there was a bus so ye there's probably a busser here.

[Dwlee99]

If it's 7p lylo you're probably town so I'll sheep you friend.

[Dwlee99]

Lol I knew this would happen. Scum kinda smart though.

[Dwlee99]

Anyway I think if we hit scum we are in autowin so let's get it.

[Dwlee99]

You tell me friend.

[Dwlee99]

Dats why do you sound so defeated?

[Dwlee99]

Pooky find Dats' partner.

[Dwlee99]

LOL

[Dwlee99]

Well I think dats is town SO if you find a scum partner I can agree to we are vibing. I still want to believe in my MC/arc/pav solve tbh.

[Dwlee99]

I agree that infinity is more likely than pav as the third but also it would be cooler if it was Pav.

[Dwlee99]

Can everyone give the next three people they'd kill if they had dictatorial control over the elimination. The goal: hit one scum.

[Dwlee99]

I could be reasoned into almost anything Clidd.

[Dwlee99]

It's fine. My heart is meh on it but it makes sense still?

[Dwlee99]

Intent to hammer

[Dwlee99]

Do I still do it? As I said before, heart's not in it.

[Dwlee99]

Idk normally when I catch a baddie I have this feeling of anticipation and here I'm just a bit dread y'know. Does scum not fight harder there?

[Dwlee99]

And does arc go way over the top D1 to be completely clueless of how the setup works?

[Dwlee99]

Well 2 of you/Pooky/arc/pav/infinity. I know we discussed infinity having partner equity with MC.

[Dwlee99]

Also I'd like Pooky and Pav to give more thoughts before I end day here.

[Dwlee99]

Sorry that should read D2. If scum she would have had to see her team talking about who to pick to reveal the next day, right?

[Dwlee99]

But I can't shake this feeling that Dwlee could still be scum too. Infinity said yesterday it was unlikely you were self-checking but I'm not so sure, I haven't done a deep think on the logic of the checks to settle the matter though

This is very close to a scum claim.

[Dwlee99]

Yes, arc seemed to have zero knowledge of the setup and it wouldn't make sense if she was scum.

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Pav

[Dwlee99]

I'm not clear but I'm very town and I think you're trying to keep your options open because you realize that town is in autowin if we hit a scum and don't lim between Clidd and I.

[Dwlee99]

Just find a scum ty. In time another conftown will appear and we will be win.

[Dwlee99]

Another idea is just like, if we find one townie in pav/arc/infinity/Dats/pooky we win fmpov. So that's probably simpler to parse than asking everyone for their three possible scum.

[Dwlee99]

Pooky I hope you're right goodnight everyone.

[Dwlee99]

[Dwlee99]

Okay y'all. Pick a townie inf/pav/Dats/poorly. We have two lims let's get it.

[Dwlee99]

I have an idea after we get the thoughts.

[Dwlee99]

Pooky doesn't bus, datisi is towny on play

Well if you're town they both can't be town

[Dwlee99]

Does literally anyone want to posit the theory that pooky and Dats are aligned scum?

[Dwlee99]

I'm not making a sole decision. Don't suggest that. I just want input on Dats/Pooky as a team because if they aren't a team we win just limming infinity then pav then pick one of Dats/Pooky then the other.

[Dwlee99]

I think I prefer pav first over infinity?

[Dwlee99]

He would have been my choice yesterday. Idk, I think it's interesting that pav/infinity are cross voting and you and Pooky are taking opposite sides.

[Dwlee99]

I wonder if it's more likely that pav/infinity aren't teamed than it is dats/Pooky aren't?

[Dwlee99]

Well if pav and infinity aren't teamed then one of you and Pooky is evil and that makes me sad.

[Dwlee99]

The level of RNG I'd be relying on if I was scum here.

[Dwlee99]

Clidd which is more likely, a pav/infinity team or a Pooky/dats team. Feel free to also introduce thinking that say pooky/pav aren't a team or something.

[Dwlee99]

I'm worried that someone anticipated my plan of find a pair of people that can't both be scum and decided to play around that strategy.

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Pav

[Dwlee99]

Idk are you and Pooky team

[Dwlee99]

Sure I can go infinity first if you want.

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Infinity

[Dwlee99]

I think I prefer pav first over infinity?

Yes, arc seemed to have zero knowledge of the setup and it wouldn't make sense if she was scum.

I exist in a perpetual state of mald that I should have known that pav/infinity weren't aligned unlike the possibility of Dats/Pooky.

[Dwlee99]

lol stop it dats the plan is lock win

:Upside down:

[Dwlee99]

Clidd help.

[Dwlee99]

I'm obviously not.

[Dwlee99]

Clidd you need to like actually listen to me here please. Pooky is not the lim today.

[Dwlee99]

We lim between pav and data.

[Dwlee99]

We are gonna think this out. My ONLY concern is dats/Pooky. I'm kicking myself for not being assertive on pav over infinity. And I'm also kicking myself for not being assertive about days/Pooky being more likely than pav/infinity.

[Dwlee99]

But like, realistically I THINK that pav/dats is the team. If I had to pick order of likelihood of teams it'd be pav/dats > pooky/dats > Pooky/pav but I really need to think this out so please don't vote like you did earlier. I'm on a mini vacation and am not doing tons of reading right now but read this little saga and I do not like it.

[Dwlee99]

You're full of shit if you think that I'm scum here LOL

[Dwlee99]

Yes, I picked myself 4 TIMES NOW? Hard bussed MURDERCAT when you were behind the Arc AND Infinity lims. If you're town, you would have to grapple with the fact that you had been pushing Infinity over Pav who you should realistically know is scum at this point. Guess what? My reads were fucking on point this game while y'all derped around killing people I had pinned as town.

[Dwlee99]

Arc was not flipping scum there ever Jesus she had no idea how the setup worked LOL

[Dwlee99]

Pav pulled the same shit sooo lmao

[Dwlee99]

But again I need to consider between dats/pav just in case and last time this happened (we needed to hit cult leader) I had the correct idea and people just quickly got not the cult leader sooo let's not do stupid stuff please.

[Dwlee99]

Can we decide this tomorrow?

[Dwlee99]

Ok ty. Gonna be on site for like maybe a few more minutes then peacing for a large amount of time.

[Dwlee99]

Sort of lied I'm still here cause waiting for table BUT also like Dats if you're town stop being ridiculous thanks.

[Dwlee99]

A lot happened while I was cooking dinner but I see Dats/Pooky coming back around to their plan to lim me

Pooky is pretending like he's actually going to vote Dat here when the chips are down

Dats trying to keep Dwlee as an option if they can't get me gone

It all looks pretty good, they fooled me until there was no other way for it to be.

Why did you stop being paranoid of me?

[Dwlee99]

Pooky I know I said I'm not limming you today which if you're town we just win then but do you have a case on pav or dats? I know it'll be biased by your knowledge they are evil but I'd like to hear it.

[Dwlee99]

Dats if you feel that way vote pav? What's your issue?

[Dwlee99]

Can you try to convince me of the Pooky/dats team?

[Dwlee99]

You have it in the form of "I'm listening to dwlee" and that I said it's you or pav today.

[Dwlee99]

Okay but datisi also said she wanted infinity eliminated before you yesterday. Why does she do that if you're not a team? Datisi also feel free to answer this.

[Dwlee99]

Mb I mental slipped infinity and your pronouns.

[Dwlee99]

Okay but datisi also said she wanted infinity eliminated before you yesterday. Why does she do that if you're not a team? Datisi also feel free to answer this.

Pronouns and "you" have me confused on what you're asking

Who is the team in this case?

I was asking about Datisi wanting you eliminated before infinity. I don't see why it matters if you're town and he is scum.

[Dwlee99]

Not hammering although I want to cause I think today ends in pav dead.

[Dwlee99]

I mean just town tell harder than pav or something if you're town. Idk I'm pretty sold that it's just you two but like Pooky is playing very interestingly if he is scum and pav is his partner and not you dats.

[Dwlee99]

I'm around™ but supposed to be working. What's up?

Pedit: I mean I can hammer this if I want to and I haven't so I'd prefer you don't.

[Dwlee99]

I'm trying to solve for the whole team here so I need to think. I'm gonna reread the Pooky and dats saga I think.

[Dwlee99]

I'm just thinking of how cringe it would be to lose in a setup so unfair for scum.

[Dwlee99]

my order right now is:


T

Infy
Datisi
Pavowski

S

one time let's go


VOTE: Infinity

This makes me sad

[Dwlee99]

Bruh why

[Dwlee99]

This is ELO. I'm town. We are deciding between Pooky/dats/pav. My personal preference is dats/pav. There are 2 evildoers left.

[Dwlee99]

Yes but your slot and mine were chosen every day.

[Dwlee99]

So ythan. What are you thinking?

[Dwlee99]

MURDERCAT doesn't really have associatives with Pooky fmpov because he seemed fine with him being the default elimination. But pav did get on MC early. Maybe because he thought that Pooky was an inevitability and so it didn't matter if he distanced?

Dats and Pooky don't seem like a team but if they were it would be really funny. To the point where if they are they sort of deserve the win for the way they played. Dats hard pushing Pooky into Pooky hard bussing MC and then trying to kill Dats the next day with the hope I'd peel them off of Dats? Is that what scum! Pooky would go for?