Open 820: The Siege of Aurelia — Game Over!

[unwnd]

I'm just going to state that I thought about hammering Keep. Basically if I did so (and Skitter thinks me/Catboi are aligned), then one of them would have to make a move. Two scum can't be at the same place basically. I just don't know if going out there to merely prove a point would be good however.

[skitter30]

I would prefer gate simply because i thinj doing so will make our chances of having 2-1 scum-town at wall that much higher

I think you're town and i know that i'm town so going to wall i think will dilute that chance from happening some more

Pedit i would have preferred that over dunn joining tbh

[catboi]

I'm just going to state that I thought about hammering Keep. Basically if I did so (and Skitter thinks me/Catboi are aligned), then one of them would have to make a move. Two scum can't be at the same place basically. I just don't know if going out there to merely prove a point would be good however.

It's already hammered by Dunn, Lol.

I think this is townwnd regardless, though.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I legitimately cannot tell at this point if kyouko's warped view of the game is complete blinkered town obliviousness or scum that is simply not actually reading the game. I don't feel like skitter's defense of her was partnery but it's hard to wrap my head around.

This is what scum does to me btw, seen it often. They don't engage because it's hard to argue with me for a prolonged period, and eventually they resort to discrediting me or ignoring me. Guess here we're going with gaslighting

[unwnd]

Oh he did hammer Keep didn't he

Catboi/T3/Dunnstral is a very odd makeup

[skitter30]

I mean i'm trying to decide if that's a quasi-dumbtell or not
T3 requoted the hammer on the prior page so like ig its possible he missed it twice idk

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I think skitter and unwnd may not like it, but I think the rest of the game would like it if they were together at Wall

[unwnd]

I don't read T3's posts once I decided he was town

I probably wasn't around for Dunn to hammer

[skitter30]

Like if catboi/unwnd are actually partners that reads like trying to distance in a way that you know wont actually happen since its hammered already

Pedit i wouldnt prefer it from my pov for solving but if people are that suspicous of me i wont object to much

I'm very skeptical we get 2 scum at wall if we do that tho, and that the swap wont be very informative

[unwnd]

I said I would be fine at wall but part of me wants to play the different minigame

[unwnd]

Skitter would you come with me if I did so?

[skitter30]

Pedit i wouldnt prefer it from my pov for solving but if people are that suspicous of me i wont object to much

I'm very skeptical we get 2 scum at wall if we do that tho, and that the swap wont be very informative

@unwnd
Idk why you going would make me inclined to do so

[ssbm_Kyouko]

VOTE: Keep

WHY.
Why .-.
So I don't think Dunn is scum with catboi because then one of Dunn/catboi would have to swap.

Dunn made a surprise move like that last game as town, so it's not entirely out of his town range. I wouldn't say his involvement this game has been necessarily as protown as the last, but as I was on the other team that time, my view of the game is somewhat colored by that. If I had to guess, though, I would say that play is more likely to come from him as town because I don't see what he gains from it as scum.

???

Perspective slip

- Catboi thinks T3 is town (241, among others. Read his ISO), if he knows he himself is town, it is obvious what scum!dunn has to gain. By hammering keep, scum!Dunn guarantees that scum cannot be forced into Wall. However he claims to not know what scum!Dunn has to gain, so

Catboi has a red perspective

[unwnd]

I feel like talking about my intentions in that regard would give out too much information

Regardless of the fact of you not townreading me

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I also think reading back his ISO that he has townspewed T3 with 364^

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Tbh I think catboi and unwnd are 2/3 and it doesn't matter what skitter's alignment is, as 2/3 is victory

[unwnd]

I think Kyouko either loses this game for town or I am fooled by her fake stubborness.

[skitter30]

I feel like talking about my intentions in that regard would give out too much information

Regardless of the fact of you not townreading me

I mean how are you reading me rn

[unwnd]

I feel like talking about my intentions in that regard would give out too much information

Regardless of the fact of you not townreading me

I mean how are you reading me rn

Unsure which is where Gate helps with that

[catboi]

I legitimately cannot tell at this point if kyouko's warped view of the game is complete blinkered town obliviousness or scum that is simply not actually reading the game. I don't feel like skitter's defense of her was partnery but it's hard to wrap my head around.

This is what scum does to me btw, seen it often. They don't engage because it's hard to argue with me for a prolonged period, and eventually they resort to discrediting me or ignoring me. Guess here we're going with gaslighting

1. Don't use 'gaslighting' in a game, thanks.
2. It is an easily verifiable fact that T3 has the most posts in the game and is generally seen by most as townie. I can't engage with someone who tells me the sky is green, because on a basic level they are wrong. Your fretting over me being at the keep is nonsensical because it contravenes basic facts about this game. When those are in dispute, what am I to do? I don't expect any amount of reasoning to actually get through to you at this point even if you are town. Hopefully that isn't relevant, regardless.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Okay, but I'm not getting voted, so, again, the idea that this is a scum gambit falls totally flat. I'm going to vote for who I think is town, hopefully I will be right, I will flip town and leave a legacy read that you should be voted no matter what.

My motivation here as town is pretty simple: I get to be the deciding vote at the keep, I get to control my own destiny, and I don't even have to convince anyone to crossvote for me, which is the most annoying part of being in 3p. If I sense that there's an active campaign to discredit me, why would I not want to be at the place where me being scumread is far less important than my ability to correctly identify who is town?

It doesn't particularly

matter

to me that I get townread here but you're so obviously trying to force-fit the read at this point, which is why I think you're scum.

oh damn keep is hammered... but now that it's hammered with 2 low activity players, if they're both town (T3 and Dunnstral), it will be easy for scum to swap scum!catboi out for a deepwolf if they can get 1-1-1, and get that deepwolf to be TRed. I think now what we want is the consensus scumreads in Wall so that if we get 2/3 there, scum!catboi is forced to stay in keep, and scum has to swap a Wall-Scum for a Gate-Town.

Off the top of my head, Peng and Skitter in Gate, Implosion, unwnd, and S_S in Wall. Does that sound like a good formation? @Implosion, if you're town, are you comfortable with me-Peng-skitter?

T3 has the most posts in the game. What the

fuck

are you talking about?

Meta. T3 and Dunnstral are low activity players by meta. T3 has a lot of posts in this game probably because I tunneled him, and I post a lot, so he has to post a lot to keep up.

[skitter30]

I feel like talking about my intentions in that regard would give out too much information

Regardless of the fact of you not townreading me

I mean how are you reading me rn

Unsure which is where Gate helps with that

Wait do u want us to go to the wall or gate, i thought wall

[catboi]

I think Kyouko either loses this game for town or I am fooled by her fake stubborness.

I think the former is, regrettably, far more likely.

[unwnd]

My previous thought was implied that I want to try Gate

[catboi]

I don't really want to finalize things before something_smart comes back although I'm kind of feeling like he's POE-scum at this point.