Open 820: The Siege of Aurelia — Game Over!

[unwnd]

Skitter just come Gate with me

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Coming gate now hammers the setup phase because there is only one area left- we dont want that before S_S is back

[Something_Smart]

Speak of the devil.

Reading now.

[Something_Smart]

I was more curious about ssbm and dunn in that trio

Kinda wanto keep unwnd/catboi out of the keep

VOTE: keep

Wat

[Something_Smart]

Okay, I'm gonna have to look at this again when I'm at my computer to actually be able to process it.

Really sorry about the immediate V/LA, btw. I didn't want to hold stuff up but at the same time I doubt I'll be able to get good reads from this.

If anyone wants to give me something specific to focus on, that would be much appreciated.

[skitter30]

I probably would have been happier with you-me-penguin if i could get you to trust me. I still have like some intrinsic paranoia about skitter although I do only see reasons to think she's town so far. Just like, last time I played a 9p setup with 3 scum some things went horribly awry with my reads early and idk how much *exactly* i trust myself and i'm not like, saying i'm going to flip on skitter unless like i'm put in a place with two of my townreads or something. Idk I should probably not go too deep into how my read on her feels right now just bc it could be useful info for scum thinking about swaps.

I dislike this positioning
In general u feel incredibly hollow

[skitter30]

I think it’s the most likely remaining shot at 3 town in one place (at least I think you’re both above random as town and the last person is s_s who is basically at random for town, so maybe I’ll prefer him if he actually does look town after contributing)

I think 2 scum at wall is more important than 3 town there, no?

[skitter30]

I want ss and implosion at wall

[catboi]

Goodbye to my hero solve. I've clearly gone wrong somewhere but I don't even know where to start.

[catboi]

I want ss and implosion at wall

You or penguin at the gate?

[skitter30]

Goodbye to my hero solve. I've clearly gone wrong somewhere but I don't even know where to start.

How

And i would prefer me at gate

[catboi]

I was guessing you/implo/s_s, although you wanting the gate changes that a little bit, I doubt you even let your team potentially get hemmed in like that. I don't know. I still don't really trust you but I think implosion is probably scummier now and certainly don't want us doing his planned Wall grouping.

[skitter30]

I mean if its me/implo/ss of course i want one of us at gate, how does me wanting gate mitigate that

If anything the fact that i havent *hammered* gate should

[catboi]

I mean more or less that's what I was saying but hypothetically in that situation I don't think you hammer without feeling like you've got a good reason to, making a sudden movement would be inherently suspect. But regardless I'm probably not good enough to go 3/3 day 1. IDK, I probably need to see the final groupings to have an idea of how to recalibrate my reads at this point ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Something_Smart]

Friends don't let friends try to win by putting three scum at the same location.

[Something_Smart]

We want to have an even number of universal townreads at the Gate. If there's already one there, we might as well put a second one, but if there isn't one we should avoid giving scum an easy IC choice.

I know this ignores the swap, but we're highly unlikely to be able to control the swap in a predictable way (our attempts last time ended in disaster), so the more we can limit what scum can reasonably do with it the better chance we have of getting a good grouping.

[skitter30]

Well the gate currently has ssbm and unwnd
And the options to move there are me, you, implosion and penguin, so those are the options

[Something_Smart]

I'm aware of the options. What I'm not aware of is the consensus reads.

Like I said I'll try to reread later but I can't promise I'll absorb everything.

[skitter30]

Me or penguin are probably the most townread of the lot, nobody keft is really a consensus townread

[T3]

Not sure what to make of SS. His posts haven't pinged me either way.

[unwnd]

I have no read on PenguinPower lol

[Something_Smart]

Not sure what to make of SS. His posts haven't pinged me either way.

Shocking.

Anything in particular you want to hear my thoughts on?

[T3]

I have no read on PenguinPower lol

Somewhat town for me just because of agreing with my thoughts in real time.

[T3]

Not sure what to make of SS. His posts haven't pinged me either way.

Shocking.

Anything in particular you want to hear my thoughts on?

implosion.

[Something_Smart]

Skimmed through his ISO a few times, nothing really stood out much. It's somewhat towny that he went completely back on his early townreads, and his mechanics takes seem mostly solid, but I wouldn't expect any of that to be far out of his scumrange.