Open 820: The Siege of Aurelia — Game Over!

[Dannflor]

VC 1.05

First Steps

Preparation

[2] Gate

:

ssbm_Kyouko, unwnd

[0] Wall

:

[3] Keep

:

T3, catboi, Dunnstral

[4] Unassigned

:

skitter30, Something_Smart, implosion, PenguinPower

The Preparation Phase deadline is in

: (expired on 2021-07-25 11:27:06)

Mod Notes

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[implosion]

I do see why S_S at gate is bad.

I don't think I should go to gate at this point, I think ssbm is the only one somewhat advocating it and I also am in principle concerned about ssbm being confirmed and mishammering me. Though I guess actually at this point she should really try to be as ambiguous about her reads as possible to avoid giving scum any info about a gate related swap. That's true of unwnd as well. Anyone at the gate needs to keep their reads close to their chest before the swap. Maybe Penguin would be good at the gate by that logic since he's been I think leaving the most to the imagination with regards to what his actual reads are.

[unwnd]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the current makeup of the wagons should indicate that scum has already chosen a spot? See there's 4 left for the choosing and well, scum can lose if they're all forced into one. I don't know if this has happened though, because if I'm scum and I see only one spot is left? I take that last spot just so I don't lose.

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[implosion]

I also do think there's a good chance S_S is town because I think there's plenty enough mass of scummy people in the rest of the list and his play so far is, well, milquetoast but that's to be expected. So there's a decent chance of all-town wall either way.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the current makeup of the wagons should indicate that scum has already chosen a spot? See there's 4 left for the choosing and well, scum can lose if they're all forced into one. I don't know if this has happened though, because if I'm scum and I see only one spot is left? I take that last spot just so I don't lose.

This is true but like it tells us basically that the scumteam isn't a subset of {s_s, penguin, skitter, me} and that's almost no information.

[skitter30]

I think that all scum exept mayhr implosion are already at a location tbh

I dont know if it really matters if i go to gate or wall, but if someone still has a strong opinion abt it still plz say so cuz otherwise i will hammer gate soon

[skitter30]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the current makeup of the wagons should indicate that scum has already chosen a spot? See there's 4 left for the choosing and well, scum can lose if they're all forced into one. I don't know if this has happened though, because if I'm scum and I see only one spot is left? I take that last spot just so I don't lose.

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And this is sort of how i read u going to gate btw, you did it to prevent groups of scum being herded to wall

[Something_Smart]

Remind me, is there a particular reason you want to be at the gate?

[unwnd]

You're free to assume what you want

I'm more interested in results

[unwnd]

Yes I wanted Skitter at the Gate

[skitter30]

Remind me, is there a particular reason you want to be at the gate?

I think it would be easier to solve since i already think ssbm is town but i dont have a massive feeling either way

[skitter30]

Yes I wanted Skitter at the Gate

Y

[Something_Smart]

Is that just because she would do well in a 1v1 situation, or because of how she is being read, or what?

[T3]

See catboi's frustratiion pings me as genuine but I'm not sure why.

[Something_Smart]

I feel like I should be fine to VOTE: Wall at least. I would imagine I'm the least Gate-fit person of everyone left.

[unwnd]

Yes I wanted Skitter at the Gate

Y

I want a read on you? I look at it this way, I either 1v1 you and Kyouko gets cleared

or

Something else happens

[T3]

I do see why S_S at gate is bad.

I don't think I should go to gate at this point, I think ssbm is the only one somewhat advocating it and I also am in principle concerned about ssbm being confirmed and mishammering me. Though I guess actually at this point she should really try to be as ambiguous about her reads as possible to avoid giving scum any info about a gate related swap. That's true of unwnd as well. Anyone at the gate needs to keep their reads close to their chest before the swap. Maybe Penguin would be good at the gate by that logic since he's been I think leaving the most to the imagination with regards to what his actual reads are.

Yeah but we think it's possible you're scum with unwnd. You're scumy, so I'm not sure if it should be your choice where you go.

[skitter30]

Yes I wanted Skitter at the Gate

Y

I want a read on you? I look at it this way, I either 1v1 you and Kyouko gets cleared

or

Something else happens

This post gives me incredibly bad vibes

[unwnd]

This is not how I would play this game as scum, if you ever need a definitive read on me for future games

[catboi]

I don't really object to skitter at the gate. Preferable to implo at any rate.

[unwnd]

Curious why you're not objecting to it? I feel right now Kyouko is just the one who gets cleared. If that doesn't happen however I need to rethink. I'm keeping my cards close until scum makes the first move

[skitter30]

This is not how I would play this game as scum, if you ever need a definitive read on me for future games

Ok this doesnt help me read u here now tho

That post basically reads to me like you're planning on ic-ing ssbm and 1v1-ing me, which is like fine from my pov, but i'm not sure its objectively obvious that this is the outcome

[unwnd]

I'm not 100% on that happening, actually

[skitter30]

Well you sound like you think that's the more likely outcome

I look at it this way, I either 1v1 you and Kyouko gets cleared

Even more you almost wrote this backwards, like it sounds like the object of me going to gate is for you to 1v1 me (i.e. i'd have first said ssbm gets and so you have to 1v1 me), you

[skitter30]

Ugh sorry

It should have said: 'ssbm gets cleared and so i 1v1 you' but you wrote it backwards, which makes it sound like in your mind that's the point if me going to gate, for you to 1v1 me

[unwnd]

There's a bit more layers to it? I just don't want to feel foolish about saying something until swaps (or don't) happen.