Open 820: The Siege of Aurelia — Game Over!

[skitter30]

Also catboi r u still planning on voting first

To clarify i meant first in keep, not overall

[Dunnstral]

I plan on casting my vote at the keep as kingmaker, yeah.

I would vote for you.

[skitter30]

Mm.

I felt like the weird way unwnd was acting toward skitter made them somewhat more likely to be partners.

Which makes this swap very interesting.

Go on

[catboi]

I plan on casting my vote at the keep as kingmaker, yeah.

I would vote for you.

...okay then. I had a feeling that might have been a motivator for you. You're confident on me as town compared to last time?

[PenguinPower]

I mean - cus, you literally were the reason why the day ended when it did.

I thought gate getting hammered was enuf of a trigger to end the day, i.e. that when i (or implo as the case may be) voted gate the day would end, so i was holding off on the gate vote until we felt the day waa over

I thought when implo voted gate that the day *was* over, i voted wall just to like formalize where i was going, i didnt realize that was the actual trigger

im kinda at the point where a few people seem to be deliberately obtuse and i'm p sure they know better so yeah

Forgive my suspicion.

[catboi]

I do want to give some attention to rereading in the other sections first now that we know potential teams, rather than just yeeting myself out of the game, though. I think the potential teams being reduced should make it easier for me to solve here.

[skitter30]

Fair enuf but that is what i thought at the time
And fwiw i was talking abt implosion there, cuz i'm p sure he knew that hammering gate was bad from a town pov

[Dunnstral]

I plan on casting my vote at the keep as kingmaker, yeah.

I would vote for you.

...okay then. I had a feeling that might have been a motivator for you. You're confident on me as town compared to last time?

I felt you were towny in this game compared to the past few times I've seen you as scum, yes

[skitter30]

Unwnd why exactly did you want me to go to gate yesterday

[Something_Smart]

Go on

There's nothing more to it. I don't understand why he did it, full stop, unless it's a distancing tactic.

(I mean of course it could be that he did it for a reason I don't understand, but that's why I only said it makes it more likely.)

[skitter30]

I'm p sure t3 is town in the keep
Catboi voting him would resolve a lot of the issues there. Not sure i know who the scum is but i'm p sure voting t3 wins that section

And at wall still p sure penguin is town

I dont *think* unwnd is scum from my pov (?) but irs possible i'm missing something. I do think he is p scummy tho and had ulterior motives for wanting me to go to gate yesterday

[Something_Smart]

I guess if it's unwnd/implosion, then he would want implosion not at the gate, but it would have been really easy for implosion to not go to the gate...

[catboi]

I plan on casting my vote at the keep as kingmaker, yeah.

I would vote for you.

...okay then. I had a feeling that might have been a motivator for you. You're confident on me as town compared to last time?

I felt you were towny in this game compared to the past few times I've seen you as scum, yes

Bold, but believable enough considering you saw me play this exact same setup very differently.

[skitter30]

Sorry to clarify the sentence abt unwnd: i'm trying to sort out if the swap lets me read anything into his alignment from my pov and i dont think (?) I can

I wasnt trying to say i think he's town

[catboi]

I'm going to not have time to properly reread until the morning, but in particular I want skitter/implo to reread and solve in the other locations now that they have a confirmed scum from their POV.

[skitter30]

My only objection is that I need to put myself in with penguin and skitter so that we can have a thunderdome.

I think the best thing for me at this point would, incredibly, be a me-skitter-penguin thunderdome at wall and S_S going to gate. That should also have a decent shot at 2 scum in one place, at least I think it still gives a decent shot of an all town wall.

That said I'm skeptical at this point that we're going to be able to read very accurately into a swap. I guess we'll see if we can once it happens. And also we should wait until S_S can contribute.

I have to say that i am utterly baffled abt what u guys are trying to accomplish

This kinda reads fo me like you wanted to end up with me for quite a while? And since the outcome is a 1v1 that penguin is town maybe????

[implosion]

VOTE: skitter

We should definitely resolve gate first because it being public info that skitter is scum will make things a lot less, well, bad.

I hammered partially because I thought unwnd was acting townier and so I thought there was a decent chance of all-town gate. I guess this is consistent with that. As the day went on I was getting paranoid that skitter was stalling out of obligation and that she was trying to get into gate as scum without any ill will being directed toward her after there had been rhetoric around other people going there. I still didn't really think she was scum but I didn't think it was bad to hammer. The day felt like it had been verging on over for a while to me and I wanted to know what the swap was going to be. Idk. I think it's probably S_S in wall as scum, and I actually am thinking more that it's Dunn rather than catboi at keep but I digress.

ssbm: what are your current feelings and what do you need from me? I'm going to sleep shortly but will have plenty of time tomorrow.

[unwnd]

I want to think about the swaps and their meanings before I say anything

[Dunnstral]

and I actually am thinking more that it's Dunn rather than catboi at keep but I digress.

What about the third person at the keep?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Victory, I've been ICed

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I will think about swaps in the morning

[ssbm_Kyouko]

@mod, loving the flavor btw

[Something_Smart]

Victory, I've been ICed

I'm glad you're enjoying it, at least.

I feel like in general it's best to do Gate last because it's the hardest part of the easiest path to victory (if that makes any sense)-- that is, we're most likely to win via Keep and Gate, and between those Keep is easier, so it makes sense to save Gate for later so we have more information.

That said, knowing implosion's flip would help sort the Wall a lot, I think.

[skitter30]

I want to think about the swaps and their meanings before I say anything

Unwnd i want to know why you wanted me to go to gate yesterday

[skitter30]

I hammered partially because I thought unwnd was acting townier and so I thought there was a decent chance of all-town gate. I guess this is consistent with that. As the day went on I was getting paranoid that skitter was stalling out of obligation and that she was trying to get into gate as scum without any ill will being directed toward her after there had been rhetoric around other people going there. I still didn't really think she was scum but I didn't think it was bad to hammer. The day felt like it had been verging on over for a while to me and I wanted to know what the swap was going to be. Idk. I think it's probably S_S in wall as scum, and I actually am thinking more that it's Dunn rather than catboi at keep but I digress.

- you thought unwnd was townier than ss? Why?
- why am i so interested jn going to gate as scum?
- i'm p sure you are vastly overstating people's desire for you to end up at gate, ans you know that. T3 saying that he wanted you to go there is not a super strong determining factor, and ssbm was very much on the fence. Nobodu else said you should go there as far as i know
- the hammer was p gross and your reasons for doing so are insufficient. You also indicated eod you would explain more post swap
- why dunn over catboi