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[Dannflor]

I do think both flow trap and t3 are scum yes

I am not very certain on the third atm

[Farren]

I do think both flow trap and t3 are scum yes

I am not very certain on the third atm

The nice thing is, if we're right about the first two, finding the third doesn't matter.

But it's still gratifying to the ego to figure it out.

When did you start scumreading flow trap?

[Dannflor]

hm scum

[redtea]

spicy scum!flow take from farren
Is it PoE or?

[flow trap]

spicy scum!flow take from farren
Is it PoE or?

How is it spicy, I was widely SRed from the start of the game, they just haven't let it go

[Dannflor]

why is my take not spicy

[Farren]

Trying to justify anti-town behavior. (1152)
Wants to send redtea to hell. (1116) This seems to have lingered from the beginning, and other than an accusation of shade (1036), I don't see any recent basis for it. The accusation of shade itself - on initial glance it looked fabricated. On re-read, I can see how it could be interpreted that way, but it's still a stretch.

PEdit> False. 123, 250.

[flow trap]

Trying to justify anti-town behavior. (1152)

"Trying"

[flow trap]

PEdit> False. 123, 250.

Technically true, but implicates false things, so I'll give you that one

[flow trap]

why is my take not spicy

Unsaid doesn't mean non-existent or undetermined :3

[ManateeDude]

Hell VC2.04

Released in 1981

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to send someone to Hell

T3 (3):

redtea, Dannflor, T3

Not Voting:

Morning Tweet, flow trap, Esooa, Farren

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-08-08 22:30:00)

Mod Notes:

prodding Esooa

[Farren]

Trying to justify anti-town behavior. (1152)

"Trying"

Yes. Trying. Is this wrong, or was this a more subtle version of your shade comment on redtea?

[Morning Tweet]

Flow I know you're busy whiteknighting T3 for some reason but who do you believe is actually scum then?

[Dannflor]

honestly, I'm almost worried flow trap + T3 don't make much sense together and flow trap is the scum preparing for his flip

but I am struggling to see a world of town!t3 outside of that

[Farren]

honestly, I'm almost worried flow trap + T3 don't make much sense together and flow trap is the scum preparing for his flip

What about flow trap + t3 doesn't make sense?

[Morning Tweet]

i dont think they're paired, flow is probably either TMIing scum or contrarian town imo

I would definitely lolhammer flow by the way;

I want to say T3 doesnt do this to a partner since he loses no matter what he does if someone votes scum!flow, whereas he wins no matter what if someone puts flow to E-1 (he can hammer, flow was a more scummy consensus player, or he can not hammer and it's whatever since flow is town). If that makes ANY sense

i also think this makes a bit less sense from a partner. If someone had put flow to X-1 i think that'd be an L for a flow/T3 scumteam either immediately or later

[Morning Tweet]

The scariest world is that in which flow is town who wants to be able to say "Haha see I knew T3 was town" and T3 is actually fucking town

I think it's most likely flow is town that just wants to hedge against consensus... probably.... and T3 is scum. I'd like to ask flow himself why he's spending time defending T3 and giving not much else in the way of reads today though

[Farren]

All right, let's say someone did put flow trap at E-1 back at 203, and the team is T3/flow trap /?.

If T3 doesn't hammer ... I could see it being bad for them. If the team is exactly T3/flow trap/Dannflor, Dannflor could unvote and wave it off as not wanting to see a lolhammer at that point. (Or, in theory, T3/flow trap/northsidegal - but that requires Morning Tweet to be scum, which no.)
Otherwise, avoiding the hammer would probably require a Convenient Disappearance, which would be suspicious. Or waiting for someone Town to get off the wagon for the totally genuine reason of not wanting to see a lolhammer at that point.
On the other hand, T3 hammering - okay, that flips a scum. It's bad for scum immediately, but it could pay off later in terms of towncred for the Heaven phases.

So no, I don't see that being an obstacle to T3/flow trap being partners.

[Dannflor]

I just feel like flow would be bussing here if they were partners

but maybe that's faulty reasoning

[Morning Tweet]

All right, let's say someone did put flow trap at E-1 back at 203, and the team is T3/flow trap /?.

If T3 doesn't hammer ... I could see it being bad for them. If the team is exactly T3/flow trap/Dannflor, Dannflor could unvote and wave it off as not wanting to see a lolhammer at that point. (Or, in theory, T3/flow trap/northsidegal - but that requires Morning Tweet to be scum, which no.)
Otherwise, avoiding the hammer would probably require a Convenient Disappearance, which would be suspicious. Or waiting for someone Town to get off the wagon for the totally genuine reason of not wanting to see a lolhammer at that point.
On the other hand, T3 hammering - okay, that flips a scum. It's bad for scum immediately, but it could pay off later in terms of towncred for the Heaven phases.

So no, I don't see that being an obstacle to T3/flow trap being partners.

T3 is the scum you want to bus

If a flow/T3 team hells flow and has T3 still alive, they're going to lose. They need T3 to get heavened or live a while avoid a judgement. They'd lose.

If Dann is scum, yes he could unvote. But I think the associations T3 has created for himself and Dann there would be catastrophic and probably game losing

I think T3 not hammering would be insanely suspicious and T3 hammering would be game losing. Maybe that team wouldn't agree, though. I find it less likely in any case

[Morning Tweet]

I just feel like flow would be bussing here if they were partners

but maybe that's faulty reasoning

Flow's been consistently townleaning T3 but when questioned he's like "Meh idrk why" for the most part. And now he's defending T3 for no reason basically

I agree i dont think that overall is SvS. Scum!Flow might theoretically do it to T3!town so he's clean of T3's blood when he's helled, or town!Flow might do it cause he has a random gut read or just wants to be right if we're wrong

[Farren]

T3 is the scum you want to bus

If a flow/T3 team hells flow and has T3 still alive, they're going to lose. They need T3 to get heavened or live a while avoid a judgement. They'd lose.

Not if there's someone else around that could take the fall in a Judgment Day scenario.

[Morning Tweet]

Hmm, maybe. Still, I find it hard to believe that scum!T3 on post 200 would be okay with the possibility of having to carry his team when he has a history of being eliminated in every game he's ever played. Makes more sense that he'd say he'd lolhammer town since it progresses scum wincon along and keeps him set up nicely as the fall guy for his team who will presumably bus him later

[flow trap]

Trying to justify anti-town behavior. (1152)

"Trying"

Yes. Trying. Is this wrong, or was this a more subtle version of your shade comment on redtea?

Would you like to provide a reason why my paragraph is completely wrong?

[flow trap]

Flow I know you're busy whiteknighting T3 for some reason but who do you believe is actually scum then?

I'm figuring 2 in You Red and Farren