Mini 2230: Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night: Game Over

[Medea the Alien]

crap role

It's really a weird setup and not gonna be topping any lists of favorite bork games that's for sure.

[Medea the Alien]

Luke that is a bet that manatee is for sure the ceph backup and that isn't assured at all man.

For all we know she's my backup.

Or the backup of the first town PR to die by night kill.


Or you know. Just actually mafia somehow.

[Snarky Fishes]

Am I misunderstanding?

It sure looks like Luke wants Annie to hammer you and is taking Annie's refusal as a scum claim?

You are misunderstanding.

I was asking him to explain why he would rather get voted out over hammering the fishes. To understand his thinking.

I still think that the best plan is for ceph to hammer the fishes, and then manatee to deshard Annie in the night, and then we kill Annie tomorrow.

If anything, the recent posts just make me happier with my pick of Annie as the demon target for manatee.

What happens if you're wrong about manatee's backup ability?

[ManateeGal]

Luke that is a bet that manatee is for sure the ceph backup and that isn't assured at all man.

For all we know she's my backup.

Or the backup of the first town PR to die by night kill.


Or you know. Just actually mafia somehow.

to confirm i am a backup to a specific ability

[Medea the Alien]

But you don't know WHICH specific ability, according to you!

[Medea the Alien]

But you don't know WHICH specific ability, according to you!

[Lukewarm]

And I told you I’m not doing it, I don’t give a fuck.

If

we decide to go with someone else

, do you think we should use the fishes? Or is this just that you refuse to use the fishes?

We’ve been scums bitch this entire game the solution isn’t to play into the exact scenario they’ve REPEATEDLY set up all game

They corrupted the fishes.

I feel like that heavily implies their plan is to corrupt someone else, and demonize the fishes +1 tonight, right?

How is stopping their plan, while still killing

who ever we choose (you or someone else, does not matter for this discussion

) playing into the scenario they want to happen?

Using the fishes feels like it is making one of their corruption abilities wasted, and also delaying their win con by a day. Like very clearly anti- the scum plan.

I don't understand the argument for NOT using them today

[ManateeGal]

But you don't know WHICH specific ability, according to you!

well yes but you did mention the first town PR to die by NK so i thought i should confirm

[Annie Edison]

Yes you know or yes you don’t know

[Medea the Alien]

Right but once again has you at your word.

Even though I tend to town read you, a global mechsolve plan should rely mostly on facts in evidence.

[Medea the Alien]

Like you probably need to paraphrase what you know here.

[ManateeGal]

i am the backup to a specific ability. when the player w this ability flips and i am demonic i gain the ability to myself.

[Annie Edison]

Do you know the ability yes or no

[ManateeGal]

no!!!!!!

[Medea the Alien]

SO let's say you were NOT demonic when said ability flipped. Would you still be notified?

[Lukewarm]

Am I misunderstanding?

It sure looks like Luke wants Annie to hammer you and is taking Annie's refusal as a scum claim?

You are misunderstanding.

I was asking him to explain why he would rather get voted out over hammering the fishes. To understand his thinking.

I still think that the best plan is for ceph to hammer the fishes, and then manatee to deshard Annie in the night, and then we kill Annie tomorrow.

If anything, the recent posts just make me happier with my pick of Annie as the demon target for manatee.

What happens if you're wrong about manatee's backup ability?

Then we probably lose (unless one of you or ceph turn out to be scum)

But what happens if we are wrong on anyone today?

If we let lld lead an elim on annie, and they flip town, I am pretty sure that is an auto loss as well. (You +1 become scum tonight 6->8. and then even if we hit scum tomorrow, the last scum can demonize someone the next day 8->9).


I feel more confident that manatee is the desharder back up (or else this is just a fucked set up imo) then I am confident that we can correctly shoot scum twice in a row right now.

[Lukewarm]

** become demons

[ManateeGal]

SO let's say you were NOT demonic when said ability flipped. Would you still be notified?

pretty sure no!

[ManateeGal]

will ask bork later gtg

[Medea the Alien]

And what if mafia have a single roleblocker shot?

Or a redirector?

Or, one of literally a trazziloin roles that can exist since this is a theme and the only rules about roles is no bastard and nothing that made Syr cry?

[Annie Edison]

Did you not clarify how your role works

Ninja
I guess not.

Hm. Illicit is calling.

[Snarky Fishes]

Cabd want to talk about the corrupter?

[Snarky Fishes]

And what if mafia have a single roleblocker shot?

Or a redirector?

Or, one of literally a trazziloin roles that can exist since this is a theme and the only rules about roles is no bastard and nothing that made Syr cry?

So do we settle for slowing the bleed-out and playing a game of mafia?

[Lukewarm]

I understand that my plan can go wrong, and we just lose the game. You are not giving me new info.

But I also know that if we misshoot today, we also can just lose the game. So, unless we have a confident solve on exactly the correct scum team, then this is a risky as hell path as well.

And when we are sitting at 2 scum in a list of 11 players, I don't like those odds more then I like the odds of just believing that bork tried to give us multiple tools towards stopping the demonization win con.

[borkjerfkin]

Feeling cute might vc later