Mini 2230: Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night: Game Over


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Post Post #5900 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:53 am

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In post 5898, Lukewarm wrote:YOU DON'T KNOW IF I KNOW HOW TO DRIVE A BUS OR NOT! lol
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Post Post #5901 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:08 am

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I feel like Unwnd this day phase feels exactly like he did in the guardians of the keep game to me.

His sleez posts felt very different, but the posts this day phase feel the same.
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Post Post #5902 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:34 am

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Here are some of my thoughts about scum unwnd in that game, and I feel like a lot of them apply to this game too

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In post 1889, Lukewarm wrote: And it just feels like, if you are town, then you should have been focused on working with me and absinthe, but you weren't. Absinthe had to ask you multiple times to help her solve the Gate, and Ana also told you multiple times that you should focus on solving the game, and then you finally said you were going to, and then you came out with . It is 5 paragraph's long, and like less then 1 of those paragraphs was actually trying to solve the Gate.


And you had so many posts in Day 2 before you spit that out. Like looking at your Iso numbers, that was your post 256, and actually your 110th post since the start of Day 2.

So from my PoV, town!Unwnd should have been thinking you your goals were to work with Absinthe to solve the gate and to convince Luke (maybe Dunn if you thought I was scum) that you are town. And if you could acomplish either of those, then you win! But then you spent 109 posts that don't feel like you are working towards either goal.

I am just trying to figure out your head space during those 100+ posts.
In post 1892, Lukewarm wrote:Like, I understand that them town reading you would make it easier. But reading through your iso 146 - 256, it justs, like there are SO many posts, but none of them feel like you are solving the Gate OR like you are trying to convince me you are town. Which is what I expected to see from you given the game state.
In post 1894, Lukewarm wrote: I feel like I am doing a bad job of explaining myself... Like it was not that you were upset that they were scumreading you, it is that that seemed to take up all of your posts. There were 100 straight posts of frustration at being scum read by catboi and ss + posts about being frustrated that I was considering Dunn + posts chatting with Birar and Ana about things that simply did not serve to help the town win.

I town read you all of Day 1, but then I flip to the Day 2 and suddenly the first 100+ posts of your iso does not feel like the iso of someone helping to solve either minigame.
Instead, all I saw was a lot of posts about how you were being put into a position to where you can't solve.


And you had things you could have done.

Like, talking to me more. You put so many posts out there talking ABOUT me, but none of your posts felt like you were talking TO me - the single most important person you should be trying to convince you are town.

And sure you might be hitting a road block asking catboi/ss questions directly, but absinthe was right there ASKING for your input. Couldn't you have given her some of the things you were thinking about, and then she could have asked. They could not really ignore her.

It just did not feel like you were trying to work with me and Absinthe. The people you should most be trying to work with.

And I cannot figure out if this is because you were scum and therefore trying to make lots of content without solving the gate, because you correctly solving the gate before you knew how Infinity was going to vote could be dangerous.

Or if you really were in such a defeatist mindset for some reason I don't understand.
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And I was like, why is Absinthe having to ask Unwnd to be doing that? Shouldn't that be the thing he is most focused on doing, but then Absinthe had to ask him
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And so, it looks like at the time that the posts were made, both you and Ana appeared to think Unwnd was not solving the Gate.

So then I read through Unwnd's iso specifically looking for it, and maybe I confirmation biased my self into it?

It just really felt to me like there was very little productivity within the sheer number of posts that he put up...
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Post Post #5903 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:48 am

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Have you ever considered I am just extremely self-aware and cannot be read on tone alone?
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Post Post #5904 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:06 am

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In post 5899, Medea the Alien wrote:
In post 5852, Medea the Alien wrote:Anything going forward about the first list being scum, you either present an airtight case that doesn't rely on whinging or you get ignored. Deal with it.
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Who is in the annie partner pool FYPOV, unwnd?
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Post Post #5905 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:30 am

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Not sure. Thinking about that gives me a bit of dread.

I'm not going to provide you an airtight case though, my thoughts don't go that deep this game. You have my #5889 and that's it.
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Post Post #5906 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:31 am

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In post 5905, unwnd wrote:Not sure. Thinking about that gives me a bit of dread.
Yes, but if we do annie and we're right, the game isn't over yet.
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Post Post #5907 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:34 am

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Uhh.

Spitballing something like Spiffeh/Manatee, but even that doesn't seem right.
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Post Post #5908 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:36 am

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I mean that would be one helluva gamble to fake inno your partner who was already semi-cleared by the town investigative humancop.
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Post Post #5909 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:39 am

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Yeah I guess it would be.

My Spiffeh read has absolutely no grounding to it. I've become paranoid about Manatee due to (things I saw) while diving through Pooky's ISO.
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Post Post #5910 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:44 am

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Let's talk about things you saw?
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Post Post #5911 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:47 am

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Annie partners include Fishes, Lukewarm and Unwnd
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Post Post #5912 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:51 am

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Weird interaction with Pooky nearing his death. I typically ctrl+F (flipped scum) in ISOs to see how people talk about them. Manatee spent a good amount of time mostly townreading Pooky, but then said she was gonna case him. This didn't come to fruition, however their communication with another was surprisingly I don't know, casual?

I don't really like digging up quotes and pointing them out. I used to do this eons ago but I think I've become self-sufficient. You can dig into her ISO around the #3689 mark while still following along with mentions of Pooky. There is a brief moment where she talks about how Pooky is so charimastic so she doesn't want to elim him, amongst compliments of his pagetops. There's some brief questioning but I think the Pooky side had some oddities as well. My paranoia flared up because I found the conversation around casing Pooky to all be showmanship and then once she no longer needed to do that she only had to pretend to have fake aspiration.
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Post Post #5913 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:52 am

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Why does Fishes wanna die as scum LLD.

I mean, even if they're demon. Scum still loses if town can eliminate them before they can achieve either wincon yknow?
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Post Post #5914 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:01 am

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Pooky ISO gives me hives.

I found reasons to not really be sure on LLD but she has to be town due to Dunnstral confirming her ability and scum hider doesn't make much sense though Demonphobic could be something else I don't know run-on sentence!!!
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Post Post #5915 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:15 am

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In post 5913, unwnd wrote:Why does Fishes wanna die as scum LLD.

I mean, even if they're demon. Scum still loses if town can eliminate them before they can achieve either wincon yknow?
Fishes seems okay with anyone BUT annie killing them I womder why

For me, it feels like Annie is corruptor and the wincon and fishes ia distraction and we have one day to do this right
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Post Post #5916 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:38 am

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I'm not caught up on the last few pages but has unwnd given any indication on whether he'd be willing to hammer Snarky today?
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Post Post #5917 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:44 am

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In post 5850, Lukewarm wrote:@dragons

Do you still think that aa9 is scum?
If no, then who?

If you are less sure, are you willing to reconsider The Plan?
the likelihood has decreased significantly. i don't think there was anything in there that couldn't theoretically be a legitimate scum emotion and she could have been coached to pretend to hammer.

if it's not her, it's probably unwnd.

no. i am town and i am not volunteering to die.
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Post Post #5918 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:56 am

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Who in her partner pool was even around to coach that interaction FYPOV?
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Post Post #5919 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:01 am

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i've spent 0 time thinking about that. clearly dunn and snarky were here, as well as you and spiffeh but those two seem like impossibilities. i don't know what yalls sleep schedules are like though.
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Post Post #5920 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:05 am

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In post 5919, Here There Be Dragons wrote:i've spent 0 time thinking about that. clearly dunn and snarky were here, as well as you and spiffeh but those two seem like impossibilities. i don't know what yalls sleep schedules are like though.
Uh, last night we went to bed around 11PM ish central?

Sleep is something to be attempted not something guaranteed for me, though.
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Post Post #5921 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:10 am

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But like, please start thinking more?
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Post Post #5922 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:17 am

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You clearly value yourself more than a generic town asset as you're unwilling to be woodchippered to prevent the alt wincon trigger, so start giving fucks and playing the game because with your refusal we're in "have to hit corrupter" mode and you seem to straight up not care.
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Post Post #5923 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:33 am

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Hmmm I just thought of a theory that involves Annie being scum but I wanna assume I’m overthinking
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Post Post #5924 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:35 am

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There’s also no proof and all speculative so eh
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