Mini 2230: Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night: Game Over
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Like it is a failure of the game design if Snarky hammering themselves is more beneficial than actually trying to hit scum here, I refuse to believe that’s the case. Ideally we could leverage their lim by also removing a universal scum read, or catch scum refusing to hammer and instead turning the lim around on them. At this point Luke pretty transparently Town and the only one I want to take the hammer is unwnd. The Snarky wagon was always going to be a tool for me to find scum and not something I ever expected to result in a hammer from scum.
We got our info that AA9 is likely not scum (although I will still “I told you so” at the end of the game if she played us here) now it’s time for a universal scum read to hammer Snarky, or switch the lim to someone else (unwnd).Q•U•E•E•N•U•P•T•O•O•L•A•T•E•2•0•1•7-
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Like, okay. "scum will never hammer the fishes" -- you are probably right on that. So, scum hammering fishes is likely not happening.In post 5946, Lukewarm wrote:
This response did not engage with the point. Like at all.In post 5944, Here There Be Dragons wrote:
i am fine with snarky and scum dying, but i'm not scum and scum won't hammer them, so like who caresIn post 5942, Lukewarm wrote:In post 5941, Lukewarm wrote:Why? What is the scenario where voting for someone directly is better then my plan.
That is my biggest issue, is that it seems like you (and not just you, others too) dismiss the plan, but never actually explain why it is worse. Or why it is "playing against your win con" as you put it
Like I have outlined repeatedly, if your solve it right, we win either way. EVEN IF MY PLAN FAILS.
But, if your solve is wrong, then voting for someone outright loses on the spot, but my plan gives us a chance to regroup.
Like, if you were to agree to the plan, you would be able to dictate the exact solve that we try to go with, if that is what it would take for you to get on board :/
So. I am comparing the other two options:
Town hammering fishes.
We elim ANYONE outright.
If town! "anyone who is not the dragons" hammers fishes,then tomorrow is ELO.
If town!dragons hammer the fishes, AND THE PLAN FAILS,then tomorrow is ELO
If we vote someone out directly,then TODAY is ELO
If you hammer the fishes, and the plan WORKS,then we have like 3 miselims available to us.
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And I just can't understand why you, or anyone would be sitting here suggesting we go for the worst possible option right now :/-
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Like, say, a Scum Beloved Princess in a non-bastard game?In post 5950, Spiffeh wrote:a failure of the game design
Or, say, a win condition that had to change because otherwise we'd already be in the postgame lobby throwing rocks?(expired on 2021-08-14 00:00:01)-
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There is at least a few people still floating around the possibility of scum me, so snarky self hammering is never gonna happenIn post 5950, Spiffeh wrote:Like it is a failure of the game design if Snarky hammering themselves is more beneficial than actually trying to hit scum here, I refuse to believe that’s the case. Ideally we could leverage their lim by also removing a universal scum read, or catch scum refusing to hammer and instead turning the lim around on them. At this point Luke pretty transparently Town and the only one I want to take the hammer is unwnd. The Snarky wagon was always going to be a tool for me to find scum and not something I ever expected to result in a hammer from scum.
We got our info that AA9 is likely not scum (although I will still “I told you so” at the end of the game if she played us here) now it’s time for a universal scum read to hammer Snarky, or switch the lim to someone else (unwnd).-
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Yeah the optimal play here is still we GET DATA on two town alignments that is locked in, given cephrirthedragons has decided to pout and stomp their feet like my two year old when I stop her from eating the felt dots used to keep furniture from scratching the hardwood floor about not getting to elim me.(expired on 2021-08-14 00:00:01)-
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Ceph. Please talk to me.
You guys town read me when everyone else was scum reading me, and I town read you when everyone else was scum reading you. Like, we found each other.
Do you see my 5951.
The fishes are willing to take a dive if it helps town win. If you refuse, then I am getting the feeling that I am going to be the one taking a dive to help town win.
I am not asking you to do something that Ffery, Bell, and myself have all agreed to do. Because that is the best path to victory.-
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I don't think it's that huge of an if that the corruptor's actions could be limited.In post 5950, Spiffeh wrote:Like it is a failure of the game design if Snarky hammering themselves is more beneficial than actually trying to hit scum here, I refuse to believe that’s the case. Ideally we could leverage their lim by also removing a universal scum read, or catch scum refusing to hammer and instead turning the lim around on them. At this point Luke pretty transparently Town and the only one I want to take the hammer is unwnd. The Snarky wagon was always going to be a tool for me to find scum and not something I ever expected to result in a hammer from scum.
We got our info that AA9 is likely not scum (although I will still “I told you so” at the end of the game if she played us here) now it’s time for a universal scum read to hammer Snarky, or switch the lim to someone else (unwnd).
otherwise, town has an extremely narrow path to winning. And the path could close after today.-
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Sort of like the comedy that your large theme game was?In post 5949, Here There Be Dragons wrote:
the idea that anyone will listen to a dead player is just comedyIn post 5946, Lukewarm wrote:
This response did not engage with the point. Like at all.In post 5944, Here There Be Dragons wrote:
i am fine with snarky and scum dying, but i'm not scum and scum won't hammer them, so like who caresIn post 5942, Lukewarm wrote:In post 5941, Lukewarm wrote:Why? What is the scenario where voting for someone directly is better then my plan.
That is my biggest issue, is that it seems like you (and not just you, others too) dismiss the plan, but never actually explain why it is worse. Or why it is "playing against your win con" as you put it
Like I have outlined repeatedly, if your solve it right, we win either way. EVEN IF MY PLAN FAILS.
But, if your solve is wrong, then voting for someone outright loses on the spot, but my plan gives us a chance to regroup.
Like, if you were to agree to the plan, you would be able to dictate the exact solve that we try to go with, if that is what it would take for you to get on board :/-
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