Open 825 - PYP X/Y: HoS_S [game over!]

[Harvey and Haley]

Manatee or Enchant would be better votes

Were you scumreading Thor at any point?
Wanna talk about Thor?

-Harvey

[Enchant]

VOTE: Miss Midnight

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Seems like i was fast with townreads.

Why MM is mafia?

[Bee]

I don’t have a good reason honestly I’m just trying to find somewhere that works.

I’ll be back after work/on break.

[Thor Ragnarok]

I dislike Miss Midnight the most, the worst critiquing my number analysis as being possibly malicious also makes me dislike him somewhat, that seems quite unreasonable to think. Nothing notable on the others

I'd like to talk about Miss Midnight in more detail.
the worst's critique is fair though - scum would have equal access to the data since it's public, and that taints reads based on historical statistics to some extent. So I can definitely see the perspective there.

However

I don't think draft picks factor in all that much in reality, so playing the WIFOM game by mucking up the picks has a small payoff compared to the roles you can achieve trying to get a high position. Rationally scum should try to score high *shrug*

-Harvey

Maybe you're right about the worst

I'll take about the midnight later now that Bee has joined the cause

You should too, Enchant

[Enchant]

I should what?

[Flea The Magician]

Harvey you actually going to do anything except idle poking this game?

Like you alone have more posts than me and You have nothing but wool - and

where the hell is Haley

?

You still never answered who signed the posts as -H though.

Yes - I'll ask for more House votes.
Please vote House.

I've answered the bolded right in this page - perhaps you should stop dismissing my posts without reading them?

Both -H were me.

-Harvey

My bad, I missed that post.

Bold of you to claim I haven't been reading your posts though, don't you think?

[Thor Ragnarok]

Long for midnight by voting miss midnight

[Harvey and Haley]

Bold of you to claim I haven't been reading your posts though, don't you think?

My claim was based on your complaint that my posts were wool and your earlier "case".

-Harvey

[House]

Manatee or Enchant would be better votes

Were you scumreading Thor at any point?
Wanna talk about Thor?

-Harvey

Not really, no... I toyed with the idea briefly, but he has zero motive as scum to actively attempt to derail my wagon in the way that he did, by posting details about me that he could have sat on as scum.

If my wagon is derailed, it might land on him or one of his buddies if he's scum, and i don't see him risking that as scum when he's already under suspicion himself.

[Flea The Magician]

Bold of you to claim I haven't been reading your posts though, don't you think?

My claim was based on your complaint that my posts were wool and your earlier "case".

-Harvey

Ooooooo you're one of THOSE people.

Yeah ok my vote is staying exactly where it is.

You know that's not a case, you know full well that's me not only being an ass, but me going overboard to make a point.

Your posts are wool, they're fluffy and unrefined.

I dare you to convince me to vote house.
Also Emily is the best wifey. *neener neener*

[Harvey and Haley]

Not really, no... I toyed with the idea briefly, but he has zero motive as scum to actively attempt to derail my wagon in the way that he did, by posting details about me that he could have sat on as scum.

If my wagon is derailed, it might land on him or one of his buddies if he's scum, and i don't see him risking that as scum when he's already under suspicion himself.

That's fair. But why would ManateeGal be a good vote? I read her nonchalance to the wagon on her as pretty towny, don't you agree? Additional reasons to townread her have also been listed in this thread.

@Flea: Hence my use of double quotes. I asked you already if there's anything you'd actually like my response to. You're going to call my posts unrefined wool no matter what I talk about - even if I express stances, ask people to consolidate to wagons, discuss other people's reads, and so on. I'm not sure what you want from me specifically? Not really interested in taking up that dare, you can look up my thoughts on House if you want.

Also no. Leah is the best <3

-Harvey

[House]

That's fair. But why would ManateeGal be a good vote? I read her nonchalance to the wagon on her as pretty towny, don't you agree? Additional reasons to townread her have also been listed in this thread.

Not really, no.

Her ISO was straight trash up until my vote on her, them all of a sudden she digs into me because my vote was the easiest to attack since it was in my first post of the game.

Scum often "town up" when their wagon gains traction.

[Something_Smart]

Scum often "town up" when their wagon gains traction.

You mean like, TRY to start acting townier, or SUCCEED in acting townier?

[House]

Scum often "town up" when their wagon gains traction.

You mean like, TRY to start acting townier, or SUCCEED in acting townier?

Potayto, potahto

Whether it succeeds or not depends on the gullibility of the players.

[Harvey and Haley]

Yes, I made a resolution before joining the game that I'd not hopelessly refresh the page every minute and just appear twice a day for a while.

I hope you have better luck with your resolution than I'm having with mine.

Also...

-Harvey

[Flea The Magician]

I've looked over your posts, thats the thing, there's almost nothing there.

I can't even see why you're on House. I'm trying to get you to follow up on your pokes because you're asking questions but doing absolutely nothing with them. You've done a lot with asking others for reads and it's clear you know my style from the quotes and not asking me for reads.

What I want from you, is to convince me house is a good vote.

[Something_Smart]

Potayto, potahto

Whether it succeeds or not depends on the gullibility of the players.

Well I was wondering which you meant, sounds like you meant the former, which I can definitely get behind.

[Harvey and Haley]

I've looked over your posts, thats the thing, there's almost nothing there.

I can't even see why you're on House. I'm trying to get you to follow up on your pokes because you're asking questions but doing absolutely nothing with them. You've done a lot with asking others for reads and it's clear you know my style from the quotes and not asking me for reads.

What I want from you, is to convince me house is a good vote.

Early game I like seeing fast pressure and wagon momentum, and House is a slot I'm fine with a wagon on currently.

Not a fan of his disengagement with the game after the Gamma spat, especially considering he scumreads his most popular counterwagon.

I'm disinclined towards breaking that momentum just to build a wagon on a slot I don't feel very strongly about, and that other players have shown a lack of interest in voting alongside.

When you see me asking someone for reads, do you not also see me discuss those reads? Also, I throw out a lot of questions, and don't necessarily post my thoughts on

every

response I get to them. If there's a specific question of mine you'd like more insight on (why it was asked, what I made of the answer, other potential answers I may have expected) please point them out!

-Harvey

[House]

What I want from you, is to convince me house is a good vote.

IDK I go the opposite direction with this and think he’s burning bridges to say look how much I’m fighting and no one is on my side but I’ll let him be for now because I don’t want to get into it since he’s not going to move his vote. :/

Call the bluff IMO, see what happens as he gets closer to lim range - will he change his vote? Will other players suddenly attempt to push a counterwagon?

-Harvey

*shrug*

[Enchant]

House, why you think i am mafia?

[Something_Smart]

Does anyone townread Bee?

[Thor Ragnarok]

Yes

[Thor Ragnarok]

Long for midnight by voting miss midnight

Enchanting?

[Something_Smart]

Yes

Porque?

[House]

House, why you think i am mafia?

You have a high fluff to content ratio, and you're open to voting everyone you haven't arbitrarily townread, which you've given no reason for reading as town for most of us so you can flip your reads on us without having to explain why.