Mini 2230: Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night: Game Over

ManateeGal · Post Post #6150 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:24 am

well ceph is confirmed human as of today right? we should flip inside the remaining humans plus ceph is the desharder and i can backup

ManateeGal · Post Post #6151 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:25 am

wait nvm on second thought i dont need to be desharder if we have four flipped humans

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #6152 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:25 am

god are you scum, Manatee

ManateeGal · Post Post #6153 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:26 am

whos human today

Lukewarm · Post Post #6154 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:27 am

Humans are : the dragons, lld, and dunn

Spiffeh · Post Post #6155 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:27 am

In post 6131, Dunnstral wrote:I'm also inclined to believe that Luke is not the corruptor. Otherwise scum wouldn't be 1 day away from winning which would be a weird tactical choice.

I've just comprehended that the corruptor can act every night. Wacky. Also they're not novice or shot limited.

Also since both myself and the corrupter targeted you, you know that I cannot be the corrupter, right? Not that anyone thought I was but it’s another confirmed piece of the puzzle.

ManateeGal · Post Post #6156 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:31 am

In post 6154, Lukewarm wrote:Humans are : the dragons, lld, and dunn

it makes the most sense to lim in this pool today. if we miss the corrupter today we auto-lose but getting rid of a human stops the alternate wincon and gives us two shots at taking down scum

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #6157 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:32 am

In post 6156, ManateeGal wrote:
In post 6154, Lukewarm wrote:Humans are : the dragons, lld, and dunn
it makes the most sense to lim in this pool today. if we miss the corrupter today we auto-lose but getting rid of a human stops the alternate wincon and gives us two shots at taking down scum

There is no outcome in which we out race the scum by killing humans. If you're town, stop pushing this.

ManateeGal · Post Post #6158 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:33 am

we have one chance to hit scum today. we get two w a human lim.

Lukewarm · Post Post #6159 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:34 am

In post 6149, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 6148, Lukewarm wrote:I will let manatee answer that first, but I am considering voting there too
Ceph is 100% town. Why would you vote there?

I am not sure that he is 100% town. More like 75%.

Although, I want to run the numbers when I get some time to sit down at my pc. But, in none of my calculations for The Plan, did I take into account that you cannot be turned into a demon tonight.

Just, off the top of my head, I think that we can still stop the alt win con if we Kill the dragons (4 dead humans). You hide behind dunn. Dunn becomes a demon. (8 demons) Manatee deshards someone (7 demons). Tomorrow we kill who ever manatee deshards (5 dead humans) - alt win con dead.

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Alternatively, I am considering voting Annie. but my issue there is that I think that Annie is scum, but I am less sure why they must be the corrupter, and killing the non-corrupter scum is a loss :/

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #6160 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:34 am

In post 6158, ManateeGal wrote:we have one chance to hit scum today. we get two w a human lim.

We get ZERO with a human lim because the scum aren't human. CephTD, Dunn and I are all confirmed town. And if we kill a human today, we lose tomorrow.

Here There Be Dragons · Post Post #6161 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:35 am

i am still trying to contort my brain to allow dunnscum to be possible so if you could explain that that would be helpful

ManateeGal · Post Post #6162 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:36 am

there are 3 dead humans. a fourth human flip means scum can not achieve their alternate wincon.
today is 7v2. with a human flip the next day is 5v2 and the day following is 3v2

what isnt clicking

Spiffeh · Post Post #6163 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:36 am

We need 5 humans locked out for scum to be unable to hit their alternate WC, not 4

Here There Be Dragons · Post Post #6164 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:37 am

it seems to me that spiffeh and dunn are the only ones who literally can't be the corrupter. the rest is speculation, imo.

Spiffeh · Post Post #6165 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:37 am

Annie Edison I feel so betrayed

ManateeGal · Post Post #6166 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:38 am

In post 6163, Spiffeh wrote:We need 5 humans locked out for scum to be unable to hit their alternate WC, not 4

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #6167 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:38 am

In post 6164, Here There Be Dragons wrote:it seems to me that spiffeh and dunn are the only ones who literally can't be the corrupter. the rest is speculation, imo.

I'm a proven hider via Dunn on a night someone was corrupted. I can't be corruptor.

ManateeGal · Post Post #6168 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:38 am

ok i'll shut up and let the adults handle this

Here There Be Dragons · Post Post #6169 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:39 am

couldn't you be if dunn was your partner

Here There Be Dragons · Post Post #6170 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:39 am

i don't feel that's likely i just want to ensure i completely understand the options

Spiffeh · Post Post #6171 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:39 am

And trying to just delay it with LLD's hide ability would only push back the inevitable because if there's no human for her to hide behind she becomes vulnerable to being demonized

So our only choice is to hit the corrupter today

lol

Lukewarm · Post Post #6172 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:42 am

If the dragons are dead, and the only humans are dunn and lld, they cannot turn 2 humans into demons tonight, because lld will be hiding. They cannot turn her tomorrow either, because she will be hiding again.

They won't be able to turn her until the following day.

I really need a pc to look at all of the numbers x.x

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #6173 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:44 am

In post 6170, Here There Be Dragons wrote:i don't feel that's likely i just want to ensure i completely understand the options

Not with Medea and Dunn's interaction on Day 2, where they confirmed each other's roles as a result of the ordering. Dunn could only be scum with Medea there. And then, Dunn could only be scum with me. Which means Dunn can't be scum at all. And since Medea and I could only be scum with Dunn, we're also cleared as a result.

It's a situation of 3 people needing to be scum together and there only being 2 scum slots.

Lukewarm · Post Post #6174 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:44 am

6172 feels like it means that killing the dragons today

First, they might flip as scum

but, if they do flip town, then tomorrow we can kill either scum, without it HAVING to be the corrupter.

(And possibly we kill the alt win con if manatee can deshard, but even if not, being able to kill either scum feels like a plus??)