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VOTE: superbowl9
saying this is scum indicative is scum indicative so watch yourselves

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also hi to everyone I know (titus, ari, gamma i think?)

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Oh and galron

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also hi to everyone I know (titus,

ari

, gamma i think?)

Wut?

Oops thinking of my other signup

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How's it going gamma? I'm gonna townbin you this game until you start acting really scummy so if you are scum just try to blend in

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knock knock

hi marci

wow nvm.... ignoring my knock knock joke... breaking my heart...
hi hockeyfan <3

VOTE: superbowl9
saying this is scum indicative is scum indicative so watch yourselves

this is scum indicative.

CAUGHT
VOTE: marcistar

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lul
PEdit: interesting, I feel like in past games you’ve used a “guilty until proven innocent” approach with me, am I wrong? If I’m right, why the flip in tactics?

You're right, I guess that's just how I look at everyone by default?
And cause I feel like it

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marcistar anagrams to "Arm rats IC"
Naturally you are a rats arm who also rolled IC.

shh thats a secret for now yknow?

Hey I'm a hidden IC too!

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this interaction is weird ngl

No you're wrong stay away from my partner

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also hi to everyone I know (titus,

ari

, gamma i think?)

Wut?

are you thinking what im thinking? lol

What are you trying to do here? Superbowl already said they were thinking of another game. What are u trying to speculate lol? Ari isnt even in the game

oh didnt see --

but idk i was just gonna be like they could have been thinking about Salsabil Faria and ari is their nickname and they probably rolled scum with them? but then i realized thats probably just me tryna be cool and tryna gamesolve kek

aristophanes is the only true ari

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this interaction is weird ngl

No you're wrong stay away from my partner

actually...

analyzing more...

why did you assume i was talking bout one person?

Because I'm scum hyper-aware of my buddy
Or because I saw an opportunity to joke at hockey's 46, whichever floats your boat

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Townbinning Gamma.

SCUM TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE FOCUS ON ME DOING THIS TO EARLY TOWNBIN A BUDDY HMMMMMMMM?~?!!?

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but can we move on from this please? it seems like scum just hopped on out no where trying to rolefish now lol

Uhhhhhh isn't that a good reason to NOT move on from this?

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It didn’t click until just now but I don’t think I’ve seen Titus say “I hate D1s” recently, perhaps since I started playing again here back in August

I've learned to stop worrying and start memeing a bit.

It's 10x more fun this way

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this interaction is weird ngl

Hi. I'm weird.

we know

lol watch this be a breadcrumb

breadcrumb of what

Why do u care?

Titus might be a roaming loyal jailkeeper again. You never know.

Not sure what anyone's talking about but this sounds like town.

Weak town lean.

OMGURGR8?

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Townbinning Gamma.

SCUM TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE FOCUS ON ME DOING THIS TO EARLY TOWNBIN A BUDDY HMMMMMMMM?~?!!?

Sarcasm?

Just view 100% of my posts as sarcasm from the start and then I'll lyk if they're ever serious (if u ask if this post is sarcasm i will dayvig you)

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Also I was going to metadive sb9 based on his enthusiasm in RVS but then I realized it was page 5 and I was already efforting.

Dont bother meta is useless and mine is even moreso useless

pedit:

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Dont bother meta is useless and mine is even moreso useless

Am I actually going to like you here?

You know my thoughts on VCA so probably not

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Titus is being so overtly strange that I'm tempted to just call it NAI?

How? I've played with titus a bunch and she doesn't really seem abnormal to me thus far

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Agreed galron I smell something fishy about T3
VOTE: T3

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Agreed galron I smell something fishy about T3
VOTE: T3

What is it that you see?

Just seems like their sorting has been artificial to me

ur questioning me regarding why i said that was a bread crumb but you replied to gamma regarding rolefishing. if you know that gamma was tryna rolefish > then you my narrative is correct that you do believe it was a bread crumb. do you understand? or do you want me to simplify it easier for u? its basically like a logic gate.

lol? I mean you're just assuming that just because I question soemoen else on why THEY know/want to know the "breadcrumb" and why THEY care doesnt mean i think its a breadcrumb? Me not seeing the "breadcrumb" and me questioning someone on someone whos fishing for that breadcrumb can both be true

eh its usually means it. im not arguing with you anymore regarding this -- i swear this SHIT HAPPENED IM GETTING DEJA VU LOL

WE WERE LITERALLYT BOTH TVT TUNNELING EACH OTHER FOR PETTY SHIT LOL

why would you jump to TvT here? seems very odd

ur questioning me regarding why i said that was a bread crumb but you replied to gamma regarding rolefishing. if you know that gamma was tryna rolefish > then you my narrative is correct that you do believe it was a bread crumb. do you understand? or do you want me to simplify it easier for u? its basically like a logic gate.

lol? I mean you're just assuming that just because I question soemoen else on why THEY know/want to know the "breadcrumb" and why THEY care doesnt mean i think its a breadcrumb? Me not seeing the "breadcrumb" and me questioning someone on someone whos fishing for that breadcrumb can both be true

I don’t think I’d need to ask if there was an actual breadcrumb
I moreso asked because I didn’t see it and scum are generally the ones who’d look out for them so I wanted to put GMo on the spot

if you didn't see it. and people have claimed they haven't either. and i said its a breadcrumb, then wouldn't that make me town? since what titus said not a breadcrumb from ur pov?

for someone who said they were moving on from this you sure haven't

VOTE: superbowl9
saying this is scum indicative is scum indicative so watch yourselves

Are you

Not_Mafia

?

I'm a hectic alt

Townbinning Gamma.

SCUM TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE FOCUS ON ME DOING THIS TO EARLY TOWNBIN A BUDDY HMMMMMMMM?~?!!?

Is this post serious?

Don't try me.....

I did some metadiving of sb9 last night but forgot to post it.

Don't bother no amount of work will get your scumbutt off the hook

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Also why the hockey vote gamma?

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Lies

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Town sb9:
Very assertive
Switches between slight joking and hyperseriousness
Engages with the thread
Early game, will give unexplained reads but as the game progresses his reads will develop more
Scum sb9:
Less assertive
Fluffs and jokes around a lot, usually never hyperserious
Engages much less with the thread and usually doesn't respond to people's posts
Reads are mostly unexplained

Thanks for the guide on how to fool town for the rest of the game!

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Who's scum grandpa?

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cool

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^at least we agree on one thing

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^towntell for not knowing that tho

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You really think Hockey faked not knowing about no daytalk for townpoints? And no daytalk so it can't be a buddy the play him

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Who's your scum kop?

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VOTE: Gamma

This slot is theater-ing somebody but I'm not sure who yet. I don't think the third scum isn't interacting with Gamma at all.

Hard disagree, why do you think this

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Superb Owl 9 should have an owl avatar.

I do just look really close
It's quite superb may i add

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The kop wagon just doesnt seem productive to me. Like what do we want out of this unless you actually think he's scum from a readslist??

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VOTE: Gamma

This slot is theater-ing somebody but I'm not sure who yet. I don't think the third scum isn't interacting with Gamma at all.

Hard disagree, why do you think this

Actually upon ISO diving I think I'm just wrong. I didn't like his interactions with Grandpa and Hockey, but I think it's more than I need those two slots to simmer more instead. They both feel kinda townie but I keep going back and forth on them, and it may be that they're just the ones being weird with Gamma.

UNVOTE:

Woah kudos, not many ppl on this site back down from a point they made

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I think we can leave STD to sort for later tbh (scum trying to take pressure off buddy?!???!1!?)

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I think I’m gonna take the rest of the day off from this game
I don’t feel in a good headspace rn

Feel better soon gamma!

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oh nvm, you're calling yourself STd's scumbuddy. why do ppl in my towncore like to claim mafia so much smfh

Because I'm mafia

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Hockey reading everyone off tone/vibes is ???

check a mirror

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oh nvm, you're calling yourself STd's scumbuddy. why do ppl in my towncore like to claim mafia so much smfh

Because I'm mafia

oh really? same!!

too bad we don't have a daychat huh? Might as well discuss the NK now tho, I'm thinking we just kill whoever has the highest postcount

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sb9 Titus Roden town

If you think I'm town convince me to move my vote off you

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Anyone against running up Grandpa? They feel subdued and cautious, and normally would've been scum read by now.

Me, especially because you went from saying scum is passive to suggesting the one player who's actually had a confrontation

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im feeling good about the ppl who just talked lately(T3,Roden,Marci). Not hard trs on any of them but the vibe feels right.

Why? I peg at least 1 scum in the 3 of em

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im feeling good about the ppl who just talked lately(T3,Roden,Marci). Not hard trs on any of them but the vibe feels right.

Why? I peg at least 1 scum in the 3 of em

I mean you're probably right but T3 is town because I like his content. Roden's progression on reads/reasoning for them seems solid. Marci because of tonal/vibes. Who do u think is the scum?

Why am I right? ToT I've already said/am voting T3

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oh nvm, you're calling yourself STd's scumbuddy. why do ppl in my towncore like to claim mafia so much smfh

Because I'm mafia

oh really? same!!

too bad we don't have a daychat huh? Might as well discuss the NK now tho, I'm thinking we just kill whoever has the highest postcount

hmm true true, it really does suck because i would love as much time as possible to discuss our gameplan!!

killing the highest postcount is a cool idea, it helps us be able to hide behind inactivity (cant be sused if theres nobody around to sus u!!!) but, what if we go for the

second

highest postcount so we can frame the highest for not dying?

Anyone against running up Grandpa? They feel subdued and cautious, and normally would've been scum read by now.

Me, especially because you went from saying scum is passive to suggesting the one player who's actually had a confrontation

liked this thought from u btw, seems genuine.

NOW you're onto something! And thanks!

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I'm inclined to agree with my trs usually + im not confident on the fact that they're all town(even though i want this to be true :^))

Okay makes sense. If I need a vote on a wagon I'll be sure to @ you

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DW im good at defending my sheeps I think they have a 0% death rate

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sorry im cranky rn lol

its fine. this might be useful in the future.

DW im good at defending my sheeps I think they have a 0% death rate

s-suddenly..

g-guys... help...... im becoming.... a SHEEP!

We have a whole animal farm here huh

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I think I’m gonna take the rest of the day off from this game
I don’t feel in a good headspace rn

Feel better soon gamma!

Thanks
FYI I at least don’t have to worry about the thing that was messing with my head anymore

Glad to hear it!

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Anyone against running up Grandpa? They feel subdued and cautious, and normally would've been scum read by now.

Me, especially because you went from saying scum is passive to suggesting the one player who's actually had a confrontation

I said majority scum is passive, and Grandpa's play so far has been relatively passive anyway.

So who's being active to you if not Grandpa???? Also the other half of this is bs because you tacitly agree to the premise that you should be hunting within lower activity slots in 468 so don't try to worm out from that now

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Anyone against running up Grandpa? They feel subdued and cautious, and normally would've been scum read by now.

Me, especially because you went from saying scum is passive to suggesting the one player who's actually had a confrontation

I said majority scum is passive, and Grandpa's play so far has been relatively passive anyway.

So who's being active to you if not Grandpa???? Also the other half of this is bs because you tacitly agree to the premise that you should be hunting within lower activity slots in 468 so don't try to worm out from that now

I didn't say anything about hunting within lower activity slots lol. Don't put words in my mouth.

Passive =/= lower activity and you should know the difference.

So are you gonna actually address my post or just point out that lower activity =/= passive?

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You keep dodging the actual thrust of what people are saying in favor of semantics. If you wanted me to replace every instance of "active" with "non-passive" in my post you're just being pedantic

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Who's scum grandpa?

im writing my analysis rn which has my scum . also its t3 proof so it means t3 can read it

Your recent wall wasn't this was it? Still waiting

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I think we can leave STD to sort for later tbh (scum trying to take pressure off buddy?!???!1!?)

You're doing TSTBS

Seems like you're alone in that opinion

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The kop wagon just doesnt seem productive to me. Like what do we want out of this unless you actually think he's scum from a readslist??

Do you townread

Kop

?

I dont really care about kop right now tbh

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It was a meme vote on the first page of the game.

You havent seen a reason to move this in the 25 pages since?

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^We might as well get rid of this slot if this is all of the content it's gonna produce

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^We might as well get rid of this slot if this is all of the content it's gonna produce

do u scumread them at all

Nope

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^We might as well get rid of this slot if this is all of the content it's gonna produce

^We might as well get rid of this slot if this is all of the content it's gonna produce

do u scumread them at all

Nope

btw wtf is this sequence lol. I dont think theres anythign wrong with DGB giving blanket reads

I dont think so either but if that's your entire content you need to go

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^We might as well get rid of this slot if this is all of the content it's gonna produce

^We might as well get rid of this slot if this is all of the content it's gonna produce

do u scumread them at all

Nope

btw wtf is this sequence lol. I dont think theres anythign wrong with DGB giving blanket reads

I dont think so either but if that's your entire content you need to go

Dunno man, what if we have DGB as an IC by meta who we don't eliminate.

That makes no sense because when you get to eylo and have clueless town that's not posting how do you expect to win?

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dgb gives content i don't know why you want to policy it

such as?

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naked reads are not content

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dgb gives content i don't know why you want to policy it

such as?

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STD if you were to spell "police" but replace all the es with ys how would you do that?

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STD if you were to spell "police" but replace all the es with ys how would you do that?

are you a super bowl or a superb owl or maybe even a 'sup, erbowl?

originially i was a stellar vehicle for soup or cereal but now even i don't know anymore

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Anyone against running up Grandpa? They feel subdued and cautious, and normally would've been scum read by now.

Me, especially because you went from saying scum is passive to suggesting the one player who's actually had a confrontation

I said majority scum is passive, and Grandpa's play so far has been relatively passive anyway.

So who's being active to you if not Grandpa???? Also the other half of this is bs because you tacitly agree to the premise that you should be hunting within lower activity slots in 468 so don't try to worm out from that now

I didn't say anything about hunting within lower activity slots lol. Don't put words in my mouth.

Passive =/= lower activity and you should know the difference.

So are you gonna actually address my post or just point out that lower activity =/= passive?

You keep dodging the actual thrust of what people are saying in favor of semantics. If you wanted me to replace every instance of "active" with "non-passive" in my post you're just being pedantic

I don't know why you want me specifically to point out who's being active though. I can copy/paste the activity overview if you really want but you're asking for info that contributes nothing and is easily accessible to you anyway. It absolutely isn't semantics either way because if we're talking about being passive I absolutely think you are, since at the time you posted this I really don't think you've done much to add to the game except joke around and be a contrarian.

I think there's a chance you might actually be confused and not dodging so I'll say this: by activity I don't mean solely post count, I mean active contributions. Idc if you think I'm passive, I want to know who you think is NOT being passive (since you seem to equate active solely with post count - maybe I need to find another antonym for passive???). Once you tell me I can actually make my point, not that it will land anymore now that we've run around in circles over semantics.

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I think scum is majority passive this time around since no one's making waves and nobody wants to make any controversial takes.

so then y arent u trying to dissect the people who fit under this more then..?

Because I just came to this realization.

Anyone against running up Grandpa? They feel subdued and cautious, and normally would've been scum read by now.

Me, especially because you went from saying scum is passive to suggesting the one player who's actually had a confrontation

I said majority scum is passive, and Grandpa's play so far has been relatively passive anyway.

So who's being active to you if not Grandpa???? Also the other half of this is bs because you tacitly agree to the premise that you should be hunting within lower activity slots in 468 so don't try to worm out from that now

I didn't say anything about hunting within lower activity slots lol. Don't put words in my mouth.

Passive =/= lower activity and you should know the difference.

So are you gonna actually address my post or just point out that lower activity =/= passive?

You keep dodging the actual thrust of what people are saying in favor of semantics. If you wanted me to replace every instance of "active" with "non-passive" in my post you're just being pedantic

I don't know why you want me specifically to point out who's being active though. I can copy/paste the activity overview if you really want but you're asking for info that contributes nothing and is easily accessible to you anyway. It absolutely isn't semantics either way because if we're talking about being passive I absolutely think you are, since at the time you posted this I really don't think you've done much to add to the game except joke around and be a contrarian.

I think there's a chance you might actually be confused and not dodging so I'll say this: by activity I don't mean solely post count, I mean active contributions. Idc if you think I'm passive, I want to know who you think is NOT being passive (since you seem to equate active solely with post count - maybe I need to find another antonym for passive???). Once you tell me I can actually make my point, not that it will land anymore now that we've run around in circles over semantics.

I think mostly everyone has contributed in one way of another. Kop is the most notable exception, but I actually would say Galron is an exception as well. He is supposedly town by meta and his post count is decent, but I honestly can't remember anything that he's said or contributed.

^just putting the whole context of this exchange here - is this not pinging anyone else? It seems like you're just throwing nice-sounding things out there because you've done nothing to push/hunt the "passive" slots you were in line to scout out - if you're actually town you don't seem to be such an active role model yourself.
pedit: apparently softing D1 for no reason is cool now???

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pedit: apparently softing D1 for no reason is cool now???

i was trying to think about this but im so confused.. the biggest flag is "i cant be a townleader because of my role" seems like bs to me LOL... just seems a bit of an excuse so he could continue to slide by being inactive.
it isn't cool at all, but im not sure how to proceed...

I think it buys a day, if he's alive tomorrow he hardclaims and we go from there

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^^my point exactly

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Like I'm not gonna push a policy on it, but do I feel comfortable with that in eylo? No I do not. So I'd rather get things moving sooner rather than later on that slot, letting it sit around and hoping it sorts itself is not going to happen

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Okay, we should be voting people just because they have a lazy playstyle

This philosophy loses games
Either you think we're 10D 500iq and can sort a slot off of no productive content, or we need to do something to make them produce content

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its better to sort out troubleslots sooner rather than later yeah,
but i really dont think today is the day we should be seeking to do this.

we can use our votes in a better way; if we all just agree "ahah policy useless player" i feel like that'll limit our flow of info a bit, and scum could choose their kill in a way that leaves us completely clueless d2.

Yes which is why I'm not pushing a policy....

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"Clueless town that's not posting"
???

Scum works too, but I think you can figure out on your own why that's bad for us.

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pedit: apparently softing D1 for no reason is cool now???

i was trying to think about this but im so confused.. the biggest flag is "i cant be a townleader because of my role" seems like bs to me LOL... just seems a bit of an excuse so he could continue to slide by being inactive.
it isn't cool at all, but im not sure how to proceed...

Nah.

Scum don't do that.

Absolutely false and do not try to convince people that this is the case

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pedit: apparently softing D1 for no reason is cool now???

i was trying to think about this but im so confused.. the biggest flag is "i cant be a townleader because of my role" seems like bs to me LOL... just seems a bit of an excuse so he could continue to slide by being inactive.
it isn't cool at all, but im not sure how to proceed...

Nah.

Scum don't do that.

This is valid

We can't seem to agree this game can we

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pedit: apparently softing D1 for no reason is cool now???

i was trying to think about this but im so confused.. the biggest flag is "i cant be a townleader because of my role" seems like bs to me LOL... just seems a bit of an excuse so he could continue to slide by being inactive.
it isn't cool at all, but im not sure how to proceed...

Nah.

Scum don't do that.

Absolutely false and do not try to convince people that this is the case

Pretty much all the time when I've seen someone openly claim PR on day 1 without any reason they have been town.

"I've never seen scum gambit" isn't really enough for me

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Normally, I wouldn't like Roden's post but I kinda do atm. Why is a mystery?

I don't think HockeyFan plays the game this why if scum with SF.

That leaves me with a conundrum as one of them should be scum with SF as the posting doesn't make sense.

What if... all 3 of us are town? I dont see why u think SF must be paired with one of us. Like what in her posting implies that? Sf's recent readslist had me as town and Roden as scum. Do you think scum!Sf puts either of thier partners in T/S. wouldnt they want to put them in null?

HockeyFan, you're new here obviously, not an alt. I generally have a rule of three. If scum lists three or more people in a list, it usually has scum in it. Roden being scum in her list is NAI.

SF selectively paying attention to only one of you and Roden doing the same thing doesn't sit well with me. Perhaps I am reading partners wrong as the goal may have been agency capture or whiteknight given how people reacted to your post.

Why so partner-focused this early?

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So salsa is your first scum? If so isn't now a great time to vote?

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pedit: apparently softing D1 for no reason is cool now???

i was trying to think about this but im so confused.. the biggest flag is "i cant be a townleader because of my role" seems like bs to me LOL... just seems a bit of an excuse so he could continue to slide by being inactive.
it isn't cool at all, but im not sure how to proceed...

Nah.

Scum don't do that.

Absolutely false and do not try to convince people that this is the case

Pretty much all the time when I've seen someone openly claim PR on day 1 without any reason they have been town.

"I've never seen scum gambit" isn't really enough for me

This isn't the kind of gambit scum does though.

Please stop overthinking this and just do what's clearly GTO. We stop talking about it and get a claim tomorrow if the slot's alive, then evaluate from there, I think we can agree on that much at least

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Also sb9 can you not vote park on me thanks

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The car is not moving out of park until I stop wanting to lim you T3

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If you want to just save some time gamma's town

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The car is not moving out of park until I stop wanting to lim you T3

The car will have to be towed.

What are you gonna do vote me? Start being townier and I'll gladly move elsewhere

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The car is not moving out of park until I stop wanting to lim you T3

The car will have to be towed.

What are you gonna do vote me? Start being townier and I'll gladly move elsewhere

But...he has been towny

OH i didn't realize that sorry let me remove my vote
Sorry i didnt mean that pls forgive me

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pedit: apparently softing D1 for no reason is cool now???

i was trying to think about this but im so confused.. the biggest flag is "i cant be a townleader because of my role" seems like bs to me LOL... just seems a bit of an excuse so he could continue to slide by being inactive.
it isn't cool at all, but im not sure how to proceed...

Nah.

Scum don't do that.

Absolutely false and do not try to convince people that this is the case

Pretty much all the time when I've seen someone openly claim PR on day 1 without any reason they have been town.

"I've never seen scum gambit" isn't really enough for me

This isn't the kind of gambit scum does though.

Please stop overthinking this and just do what's clearly GTO. We stop talking about it and get a claim tomorrow if the slot's alive, then evaluate from there, I think we can agree on that much at least

This is something I actually feel confident I can defend T3 on
While his theory is probably not entirely correct in practice, I know T3 has said similar before, and as such unless there was a game I am not presently aware of where something happened to contradict that belief it would make sense he’s still thinking this

No yeah i dont doubt he believes this hes just wrong

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If you want to just save some time gamma's town

so u think Gpas mafia right?

Also,

nvm im moving my vote over here rn

VOTE: Kop

the wagon orignally started out too fast but it kinda just dissipated when kops recent posting wasnt even towny

Uhhhh no?

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pedit: apparently softing D1 for no reason is cool now???

i was trying to think about this but im so confused.. the biggest flag is "i cant be a townleader because of my role" seems like bs to me LOL... just seems a bit of an excuse so he could continue to slide by being inactive.
it isn't cool at all, but im not sure how to proceed...

Nah.

Scum don't do that.

Absolutely false and do not try to convince people that this is the case

Pretty much all the time when I've seen someone openly claim PR on day 1 without any reason they have been town.

"I've never seen scum gambit" isn't really enough for me

This isn't the kind of gambit scum does though.

Please stop overthinking this and just do what's clearly GTO. We stop talking about it and get a claim tomorrow if the slot's alive, then evaluate from there, I think we can agree on that much at least

Why are you so set on getting me to claim tomorrow?

Why so serious? You didn’t seem to have an issue softclaiming today
If you’re town, it at least gives us the full information (more helpful to town than scum since scum already have info advantage). If you’re scum it locks you into a role early and gives us a chance to spot a bs claim. Tell me, if you actually are a PR and survive the night, what benefit does concealing your full role serve at that point?

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If you want to just save some time gamma's town

so u think Gpas mafia right?

Also,

nvm im moving my vote over here rn

VOTE: Kop

the wagon orignally started out too fast but it kinda just dissipated when kops recent posting wasnt even towny

Uhhhh no?

i have no clue why now 2 ppl have said that Gpa/Gamma are TVT, like how does someone think that lol

I didn’t say it was TvT either i didn’t cite any read on gpa - i dont think that exchange was very AI

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Oof, this was not a good response.

Scum actually don't have the full info advantage here. There is a very good reason I didn't full claim and your reasoning for trying to make me full claim is weak and not coming from a townie mindset. Only scum benefit from PR claims, and you trying to force one makes you look like you're trying to open wolf this game. The role fishing here is obvious and I'm not sure how you could ever justify it.

The worst part about this is that I'm not even on the chopping block here yet you're acting like I'm at E-1 and claiming to save myself. I'm offering info because town PRs absolutely need to be wary and try not to crumb, since I'm fairly certain scum can tear through them this time around.

If you really think that softing OUT OF NOWHERE D1 has no consequences…. Idk what to tell you.

Cat’s out of the bag that you’re a PR at this point, sorry wasn’t me who did it it was you. Think of it this way: if you were town informed you’d just instantly spill your info to town right?

To call me openly telling you to claim TOMORROW after a soft a rolefish… i really don’t understand what your aim is if you actually are town. Do you expect to survive multiple nights without a protective???

Of course it makes sense if you’re scum trying to delay getting exposed, but what’s the town thought process here? Genuinely confused

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These thoughts aren't congruent btw.

Yes I went through a T3 town lens in that post so gamma would understand me better

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Superbowl9 please don't get my car towed. I'll never let you drive if that happens.

Sorry haven’t been looking at your votes do you want me to? Or are you telling me not to get towed??

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Spoiler: A wise player

^We might as well get rid of this slot if this is all of the content it's gonna produce

^We might as well get rid of this slot if this is all of the content it's gonna produce

do u scumread them at all

Nope

btw wtf is this sequence lol. I dont think theres anythign wrong with DGB giving blanket reads

I dont think so either but if that's your entire content you need to go

Dunno man, what if we have DGB as an IC by meta who we don't eliminate.

But she could be playing to her meta that everybody will know is her town meta, it's not really requiring any effort or energy to do so. So simply put it, she might be scum this time, but playing her general town playstyle. I'm not willing to have an IC based on meta, whatever she was in the previous games, does not equate to this game.

I fully understand the point in meta, but I simply cannot, and won't, base any reads concretely on meta.

If that's the only content that she can provide, single one liners without any reasoning to back her reads up as the game progresses, then it is simply going to be difficult to make a decision towards the end of the game who to eliminate. And I don't like the idea of doing coin flips on naked reads and very little reasoning over content with valid but could be wrong reasonings. And I certainly ain't going to put meta on her side of the coin.

OMG I LOVE YOU

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Roden can be town based on that. It's not just the hint that's giving me town vibes, it's some of the explanation after, that kinda makes it more plausible that he is town.

Idrc roden’s alignment, giving a half scrap of info is only helping scum and confusing town, even if we believe its trustworthy

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T3 i have yet to catch up to whatever SLANDEROUS content you’ve been posting but you won’t escape lightly for interrupting my catchup!

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It depends on Roden's role though, he could be something ridiculous that helps town if he doesn't out.

I mean can you tell me an example role in which this would be the case if Roden’s still alive tomorrow?

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T3 i have yet to catch up to whatever SLANDEROUS content you’ve been posting but you won’t escape lightly for interrupting my catchup!

You were force replaced for quoting private info.

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Qaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.

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Roden

sb9/STD

DGB
people who i forgot

Thoughts on marci?

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That's the same copypasta scum used when self hammering in my first game ever :0

Ive been known to self hammer a bit myself

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It depends on Roden's role though, he could be something ridiculous that helps town if he doesn't out.

I mean can you tell me an example role in which this would be the case if Roden’s still alive tomorrow?

Ascetic buletproof watcher or something like that.

So if I was an ascetic bp watcher I would be extremely happy to go into D2 and claim unmodified watcher and have scum not target me until they find a protective while feeding town my info.

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T3's reads are also town and idfk what superbowls "push" on him even is lol

his READS are towny???

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??

Sorry I cant read

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T3's reads are also town and idfk what superbowls "push" on him even is lol

his READS are towny???

YES. its moreso of the fact that his reads are pretty similar to mine. Also, whast your real read on T3, cuz it seems like you're pushing him but at the same time not, so how much do u SR them

If you base towniness off of how similar someone's reads are to yours scum will have a very easy time with you. You'll find out in due time my friend.

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Oof, this was not a good response.

Scum actually don't have the full info advantage here. There is a very good reason I didn't full claim and your reasoning for trying to make me full claim is weak and not coming from a townie mindset. Only scum benefit from PR claims, and you trying to force one makes you look like you're trying to open wolf this game. The role fishing here is obvious and I'm not sure how you could ever justify it.

The worst part about this is that I'm not even on the chopping block here yet you're acting like I'm at E-1 and claiming to save myself. I'm offering info because town PRs absolutely need to be wary and try not to crumb, since I'm fairly certain scum can tear through them this time around.

If you really think that softing OUT OF NOWHERE D1 has no consequences…. Idk what to tell you.

Cat’s out of the bag that you’re a PR at this point, sorry wasn’t me who did it it was you. Think of it this way: if you were town informed you’d just instantly spill your info to town right?

To call me openly telling you to claim TOMORROW after a soft a rolefish… i really don’t understand what your aim is if you actually are town. Do you expect to survive multiple nights without a protective???

Of course it makes sense if you’re scum trying to delay getting exposed, but what’s the town thought process here? Genuinely confused

I didn't say it had no consequences? I decided giving info was more important.

I didn't instantly give my info because I didn't want the start of the game to revolve around it.

I expect to survive because you've decided to make this a bigger deal than it should be. I don't want a protective role on me though.

At what point was I getting "exposed" lol? Because I didn't instantly interrogate everyone? I was at work my dude, I didn't have the time to wall post and ISO dive. Once I had time, you decided you needed to take it all up instead.

If you think it's become such a big deal why are you still arguing with me about it? If you really wanted to keep it low profile how about wait until tomorrow to say anything since I'm proposing we just let you be today??? My suggestion is a very standard strategy.
If you thought we weren't going to be talking about you having additional information you were sorely mistaken. You can't just say something like that in this game and not expect a big reaction - that's what I mean by there are consequences.
**IF** you're scum you will want to delay a claim as long as possible was my point about getting exposed, sorry if that wasn't clear.

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These thoughts aren't congruent btw.

Yes I went through a T3 town lens in that post so gamma would understand me better

Why? Shouldn't you be pushing your one scum read?

I literally just knew gamma would understand me better if I framed it with T3 as town, it was just so my main point didn't get muddied.

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Roden can be town based on that. It's not just the hint that's giving me town vibes, it's some of the explanation after, that kinda makes it more plausible that he is town.

Idrc roden’s alignment, giving a half scrap of info is only helping scum and confusing town, even if we believe its trustworthy

It depends on Roden's role though, he could be something ridiculous that helps town if he doesn't out.

I mean can you tell me an example role in which this would be the case if Roden’s still alive tomorrow?

???

How is this not blatant role fishing?

He doesn't know your role? I'm saying there's no role in which this strategy wouldn't work, so he wouldn't be able to provide it anyways

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TRUE. but t3 didnt know that he would be trd if he had the same reads/simillar reads as me and the actual reasoning behind these reads is also smth i like

Yeah just warning you that a pretty easy scumstrat is to just buddy up to people by having similar reads, so take that with a grain of salt

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@sb9

, I can understand why do you think softing PR from

Roden

seems scum indicative but if you think this way: yes, scums don't have day chat but

Roden

wasn’t also at E-1 or something that they had to take this risky drastic move. I don’t townread them yet, let's see what happens at night.

When did I say this? I'm not even looking at it from an alignment lens until we get the role, it's just (very probably) anti-town to soft like that. I get the town does this more often argument but to say this never comes from scum is not true

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Got an early solve salsa?

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These thoughts aren't congruent btw.

Yes I went through a T3 town lens in that post so gamma would understand me better

Why? Shouldn't you be pushing your one scum read?

I literally just knew gamma would understand me better if I framed it with T3 as town, it was just so my main point didn't get muddied.

TMI that Gamma is town? Otherwise at what point did you town lock him so confidently that you knew this was your only way to convince him?

I've been treating Gamma town all game, like I said I was going to earlier. I also just straight TR him, but that's kinda irrelevant - if phrasing it with T3 as town will make my point better doesn't matter if he's town or scum, it just helps me make my point lol

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I'm arguing about it because the way you're playing this suggests you're either open wolfing, which you never denied, or you're bad town. At this point it's really looking like you're just scum trying to weigh whether or not to NK me tonight. You're repeatedly bringing this subject up with other people so don't pretend I'm the one who won't drop it, you've made it clear that knowing my role is important to you.

Claiming I'd want to delay my claim if scum is just bad logic because I'm not even being run up. It sounds like you just realized you didn't actually have town logic to justify your "exposed" comment.

Why would we run up a soft??? If that's what you believe about my exposed comment I can't change your mind but if you re-read it I think you'll genuinely see that's what I meant. Of course scum wants to delay a claim, it's in their best interest to gain as much info as possible before hard committing or they risk getting ccd i.e. exposed. I'm happy to drop this right now, just don't respond to this post. But I'm also happy to discuss it until the cows come home

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@sb9

, I can understand why do you think softing PR from

Roden

seems scum indicative but if you think this way: yes, scums don't have day chat but

Roden

wasn’t also at E-1 or something that they had to take this risky drastic move. I don’t townread them yet, let's see what happens at night.

When did I say this? I'm not even looking at it from an alignment lens until we get the role, it's just (very probably) anti-town to soft like that. I get the town does this more often argument but to say this never comes from scum is not true

Then why are you insistent that I claim and that I got "exposed" if you admit you're not scum reading me?

Like I said I didn't say you got exposed!!! Let me quote it:

Of course it makes sense if you’re scum trying to delay getting exposed, but what’s the town thought process here? Genuinely confused

I'm saying if you're scum it makes sense to fight a D2 claim because you don't want to hard commit, but I don't get why you would do this as town, which is why I'm genuinely confused.

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Also Salsa has marci and owl at the top of her readlist for no reason and when asked she didn't explain.

I mean we are obvtowning

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I'm fine with salsa if it ends up being the choice

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votesalsaplz

No we have roughly a quadrillion days left

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does anyone actually TR SF other than me . just seems people are hopping on this vote/are "fine" with this vote,, and I think that makes SF somewhat town

I have a SLIIIIIIIIIGHT townlean but I think it'll give reasonably good info so im fine with it

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votesalsaplz

No we have roughly a quadrillion days left

bad reason to not vote imo

I don't sr them.... I think we can do better today

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votesalsaplz

No we have roughly a quadrillion days left

bad reason to not vote imo

I don't sr them.... I think we can do better today

I feel like trying to achieve the "perfect" lim D1 is not really a functional strategy
it's pretty much always working off minimal info, so you're probably always going to have one or two vocal detractors

That's why I said I'll be fine voting them but it's too far from deadline lol

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votesalsaplz

No we have roughly a quadrillion days left

bad reason to not vote imo

I don't sr them.... I think we can do better today

who do u scumread

T3

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is that all t_t

I mean I have other hunches but nothing past a lean

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votesalsaplz

No we have roughly a quadrillion days left

bad reason to not vote imo

I don't sr them.... I think we can do better today

who do u scumread

T3

why

Cause you're a scumbutt I can smell it

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like the only world i am seeing, is salsa hard town and town is only voting them or mafia is hard bussing.

i was just looking at salsa then everybody just hopped on salsa out of weird motion when they were people who scumread me then instantly pivoted on to me

This wagon has no chance of going to elim unless it has multiple IRL days staying power so

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Marci you need to start acting scummier or people will start asking how we survived all the NKs

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is that all t_t

I mean I have other hunches but nothing past a lean

do u mind saying or..?

Marci you need to start acting scummier or people will start asking how we survived all the NKs

oh true true its just so hard hiding how talented i am
hear me out, what if i... start doing a shitton of fluff posts??!

I do
And yes muahahaha theyll have no clue what hit them

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That’s also bad
I feel like we’ve gotten a solid amount of content this day phase
Playing like the deadline is some golden rule is objectively bad play imo

Agreed, if we fizzle out before deadline we can vote somewhere. That's not happening right now though.

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Uggghhhh why are you such an idiot @ mafia theory
Why the hell does a wagon need to stay for several days? That just seems like a fast-track to a stagnant gamestate!

I predict this day's discussion staying alive for at least a few more days??? If all of a sudden it becomes a ghost town your points are valid but acting like a turbolim is inevitable is kinda weird - look at the vc, Galron is tied with salsa and T3 is one behind - it's not like the entire game is at one person's throat

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Uggghhhh why are you such an idiot @ mafia theory
Why the hell does a wagon need to stay for several days? That just seems like a fast-track to a stagnant gamestate!

I predict this day's discussion staying alive for at least a few more days??? If all of a sudden it becomes a ghost town your points are valid but acting like a turbolim is inevitable is kinda weird - look at the vc, Galron is tied with salsa and T3 is one behind - it's not like the entire game is at one person's throat

Maybe I’m over-reacting but it feels like we’ve had a good amount of content this game day, and I think trying for more is a recipe for disaster

I'm not saying push for content tho, I'm saying don't push for an early elim

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Both galron and salsa are pretty easy targets

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Got an early solve salsa?

T3

,

Titus

.... Not sure about the 3rd scum yet.

We need another T in the playerlist for you

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Okay this is how I am looking at it.

salsa, galron, kop all look like have been targets for elims.

i believe one scum is in here.

this is where i personally stand.

Salsa town -- being miscondemned.
Galron null -- haven't followed up anything / coasting.
Kop scum -- no pressure / coasting

i will talk about thsi more when i come back but just think bout it ... like hopefulyl im not crazy.

Yes please because I would love to see your work on this

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im interested if

anyone

can give me a convincing case on why kops scum here.

*raises hand*

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im interested if

anyone

can give me a convincing case on why kops scum here.

*raises hand*

WAIT I MISREAD THAT NO
I thought you said if anyones interested you can give a scumcase my bad

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I usually paly anti town as town

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VOTE: Salsabil Faria
By playing anti-town you make it hard for everyone else to actually find scum. This is a team game, act like it.

Do we know what E- this is?

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QUICKHAMMER TIME

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Don't you know playing against wincon is the new vogue

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Like y'all are mad at Salsa because they're playing anti-town, but sb9 literally and openly scum claimed multiple times and has contributed zero content besides role fishing.

Yes I am scum and I will be laughing at all of town in the postgame when me and marci reveal the brilliant tactics we have employed

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You haven't been playing to your town meta superbowl. At least from the games I've played with you.

GASP
SHOCK
NOOOOOOOO THE HORROR

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Sorry I can't help it sometimes

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Sorry I can't help it sometimes

I was just memorializing the observation I'd made a couple of days ago.

Fwiw i purposely try to keep my meta different
But have we even played together where I was town?? iirc I only had that one scum treestump game against you

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SB9 - His constant discussion regarding the soft, rolefishing, he has only really pushed T3 as his scum read, and is happy to vote for Salsa for info even though he has a slight town lean on that slot. I'm sorry, info or no info, I wouldn't vote for a any sort of town lean just for info. Even if that is the way the day is heading, I won't be voting for a town lean of any sort. I just don't get that, I understand lynches provide info, but when you believe that slot is town, I'd personally prefer to try and provide the reasons why I believe I have that town lean whether it be small or big, and that a lynch is better elsewhere. Even if your not listened too, I just don't feel policy lynches. He scum reads T3 but hasn't really pushed his case out there for anyone to really buy into, and hasn't really pushed up anything else.

I am fine with salsa being elim

is what I said. Does that mean I will be voting salsa to you? I LITERALLY SAID WE HAVE BETTER OPTIONS
Also what are you talking about wrt a policy???

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Was that a hammer LMAO?

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Oh no I think gamma saved us

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Okay so interesting vote counting results:

Let's make the game hard for all of you...

UNVOTE: T3

VOTE: Salsabil Faria

It's E-1 if I count right, if not then you know what to do

This was actually an E-2 vote (titus, galron, T3, gamma, Salsa)

UNVOTE:

This unvote was EXTEMELY MISLEADING since you already unvoted in 1120. You've been caught by the anti-town police

After everything at this post Salsa/NM is at

E-2

(titus, galron, T3, Roden, Not_Mafia).

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Sadly I think everyone SRing me might be town (hockey, kop, galron and that's by order of certainty (we're leaving roden out of this so yall can ro3 me)). I wish we could lim Goofball but that doesn't seem like it's happening. I think my early solve with a 0% confidence is T3 NM and one of STD/titus

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VOTE: Not_Mafia I dont wanna look at a replacement as AI butttttt

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(That unvote makes NM E-3 I believe)

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E-4 actually

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Oops you're town either way tho

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VOTE: Not_Mafia

E-1?

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Sadly I think everyone SRing me might be town (hockey, kop, galron and that's by order of certainty (we're leaving roden out of this so yall can ro3 me)). I wish we could lim Goofball but that doesn't seem like it's happening. I think my early solve with a 0% confidence is T3 NM and one of STD/titus

What happened to the slight town lean you had on SF but now NM, has gone to a scum read?

Yes it did - see 1362

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uhhhhh was that a hammer

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Nope that was E-2? (NM, roden, me, T3, DG)

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Got an early solve salsa?

T3

,

Titus

.... Not sure about the 3rd scum yet.

Hate this. I think this is a bad question from Superbowl and a bad answer from Salsa. Just find one scum. Then another. We don't have to solve the game on Day 1.

I mean the answers I expect are either a solve that has no weight or no, so not arguing that we do...

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Got an early solve salsa?

T3

,

Titus

.... Not sure about the 3rd scum yet.

Hate this. I think this is a bad question from Superbowl and a bad answer from Salsa. Just find one scum. Then another. We don't have to solve the game on Day 1.

I mean the answers I expect are either a solve that has no weight or no, so not arguing that we do...

I don't really understand why the question then.

It's fun, it gives me a good quick idea of how they're seeing the game, and leaves associatives, idk what's not to love

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Nope that was E-2? (NM, roden, me, T3, DG)

That means N_M needs two more votes.

No check your sources on that

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I don't know that Superbowl would bus here is what's holding me back.

Am I lockscum to you?

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@GrandpaMo Where'd you go?

sorry i quit the computer because i needed to work on my summer stuff to get ready for school tmr

Good luck in school man

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does anyone actually TR SF other than me . just seems people are hopping on this vote/are "fine" with this vote,, and I think that makes SF somewhat town

I have a SLIIIIIIIIIGHT townlean but I think it'll give reasonably good info so im fine with it

votesalsaplz

No we have roughly a quadrillion days left

bad reason to not vote imo

I don't sr them.... I think we can do better today

VOTE: Not_Mafia I dont wanna look at a replacement as AI butttttt

Yes I agree that you said we can do better. But I just don't understand in what world you would have been happy to lynch a town lean even if it was only slight. But I guess that's down to different gamestyles, so we probably won't agree with that point. I do agree with the info side of it, but I just don't think it would have provided a great deal, because the whole wagon feels more of a policy lynch.

And your vote on NM, I genuinely don't see your reasoning of why it went from a slight town lean, to a scum read. You even said it's NAI. (Even though I find playing with NM to be frustrating).

If you can give me a genuine reason to why you are actually scum reading NM, from the slight town lean that you had on SF, other than what has already been mentioned from others, I'd like to hear your reasons.

Me personally, I just find that you are sheeping, and I don't like that you are, considering you already mentioned about actually wanting time and we have that time, to find a better solution.

So what do you think we are going to achieve by eliminating NM?

In 1032 I had a salsa townlean. My read changed since then (THE HORROR)
The post you quoted says I don't want to look at a replacement as AI

BUT...

- what does that mean to you??? Salsa and NM's actions have been elim worthy as of late.

And please stop using the word lynch

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What changed for you gamma? You seemed pretty eager to end the day a little while ago, now we're kind of stalling and you're off the lead wagon you were on before?

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Claim pls

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Then hammer this foo

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I think we all know what time it is gamma

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If N_M flips red like I expect, Kop is town for white knighting them.
If N_M flips green, which I doubt, then Kop is a scum whiteknight in a futile bid to gain towncred from the inevitable.

i like 94% agree on this on one of the main reasons on why i want to vote nm here

its also becuase i think titus's allignment gets solved tmr regardless.

anyways im probably gonna hmmer here if no any last words?

Oh you can do the honors as well

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stealing hammer from all of you

VOTE: Not_Mafia

If this flips town, I think im still good with my town core, might have to switch my null/leaning town reads but we'll see
If this flips scum, well i think generally everything stays the same but Kop gets +scum equity

I understand the point about scum equity, I wasn't stalling the lynch. I wanted to see the general progression of SB9 with his progression on NM. I already said that I didn't town read SF/NM.

Please stop using the word lynch.

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haha last post fo da day

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ggs, guess killing me worked T3