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[House]

At any rate, I think DGB voting Math's biggest attacker while calling Math scum kinda stinks.

Would you agree that one neighbor flipping red clears the other?

mostly, yeah. Like that hood I was in was S/S and that's not impossible but Dunn was a traitor so even if it was S/S so if one of Math/DGB were to flip mafia I'd be willing to think the other 2 scum are outside of the hood.

Okay. So we're in agreement that the hood has at least 1 town.

Why do you want to

purge the hood

instead of find the scum IN the hood?

[Nero Cain]

Okay. So we're in agreement that the hood has at least 1 town.

well at least 1 not main scum

instead of find the scum IN the hood?

I'm not really sure which one is the scum. Clearly, if we voted the town one I'd want the other dead but if we voted scum then we can leave the other alone.

[House]

Okay. So we're in agreement that the hood has at least 1 town.

well at least 1 not main scum

instead of find the scum IN the hood?

I'm not really sure which one is the scum. Clearly, if we voted the town one I'd want the other dead but if we voted scum then we can leave the other alone.

Well, you're throwing shade at both. Which one is most likely to be scum from your perspective?

[Nero Cain]

Maybe the person that I'm voting.

[Nero Cain]

but then I could see a scum DGB just venge vote me for pointing out the 2 ppl hoods likely contain scum. I'm not sure that I really like what you are doing.

[House]

That's unfortunate. I was trying to give you an opening to reconsider your stance.

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I'm not a fan of Nero's approach of the neighborhood. There's a good possibility that Nero knows both will flip town, which led to his 299.

If a hoodie DOES flip red, he's less likely to be scum as it would require some pretty fast dancing to avoid bussing his buddy after his rampage about wanting the entire hood destroyed.

[Nero Cain]

I'm not a fan of Nero's approach of the neighborhood.

I saw this coming from a mile away.

[House]

That's unfortunate. I was trying to give you an opening to reconsider your stance.

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I'm not a fan of Nero's approach of the neighborhood. There's a good possibility that Nero knows both will flip town, which led to his 299.

If a hoodie DOES flip red, he's less likely to be scum as it would require some pretty fast dancing to avoid bussing his buddy after his rampage about wanting the entire hood destroyed.

(presuming the town hoodie is eliminated first)

[Almost50]

Vote Count 1.01

ssbm_Kyouko (3)

- Gamma Emerald, Cat Scratch Fever, DrippingGoofball

Titus (1)

- Dragon of the West

Kerset (1)

- ssbm_Kyouko

Nero Cain (1)

- MathBlade

Mathblade (1)

- Nero Cain

Cat Scatching Fever (1)

- Titus

DrippingGoofball (1)

- House

Not voting (4)

: Wake88, Kerset, Andresvmb, Almost50

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-09-23 17:06:41)

VOTE: ssbm_Kyouko

Just an opportunistic vote on the largest wagon. I don't even know why anyone is voting anyone else.

[House]

I'm not a fan of Nero's approach of the neighborhood.

I saw this coming from a mile away.

I was hoping you were going to switch your vote to DGB, given your recent shading of it that I was on board with.

That not happening made me sad.

[Nero Cain]

I'm not against voting DGB. Why not just ask me instead of basically berating me for not knowing which one is scum.

[House]

I'm not against voting DGB. Why not just ask me instead of basically berating me for not knowing which one is scum.

I didn't berate you?

Direct questioning is less effective. I wanted an overall picture of your mindset.

[House]

I'm sorry that me doing so frustrated you, though.

[Nero Cain]

if you wanna call it fence-sitting and claim I'm scummy for it fine but both Math and DGB seem scummy to me. Sorry for not being informed and know wich one is scum.

[Nero Cain]

Who are the scum house? You can only have 3 reads. Not knowing who is scum isn't an excuse for getting anyone wrong.

See, I can do it too.

[House]

if you wanna call it fence-sitting and claim I'm scummy for it fine but both Math and DGB seem scummy to me. Sorry for not being informed and know wich one is scum.

My original suspicion was that you might be scum voting a townie and pushing a buddy, but upon further reflection of your desire to "purge the hood", I discarded the idea.

If there's scum in the hood, you're likely town.

If there's not, you may well be scum.

That's where I'm at.

[House]

Who are the scum house? You can only have 3 reads. Not knowing who is scum isn't an excuse for getting anyone wrong.

See, I can do it too.

I didn't do any of that.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

One of the first things that were posted in the neighbor PT was MB explaining how he was going to crumb.

To which I answered, why crumb at all, we're not masons. And curiously MB said that if I'm town,

it's like we're masons

. It took me aback, because no, FMPOV we're totally not masons, not even close.

Then MB was concerned about, er, what's that role that checks if you have a PT? He worried that such a role would get a false positive if we were investigated.

Then a real lot of the thread was MB working me to scum read Nero, starting with Nero highlighting MB's "PR crumb" in the thread. I'm not very good at reading Nero, so I said I wasn't going to do this on Day 1. MB's crumb wasn't exactly subtle for the type of player that looks for crumbs (unlike me, i never see crumbs). It felt like an opportunistic trap a little bit, Nero had fallen into and MB was going for the kill.

At that point I was noticing MB premature-claiming in the thread and that's when I proposed a gambit, since it seemed like the whole neighbor bit was already blowing up in my face through no fault of mine.

In other word I think MB is scum.

If I've got the timeline right, you were already a little bit suspicious of Math when you suggested he do the mason gambit, right?

Why did you choose to out the gambit? Wouldn't it have helped you figure out Math's alignment if one of you were eventually NK'd?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Spoiler:

This game sure is spicy.

that's like really not what I'm saying...

That's the natural conclusion to

If Math/DGB were in a two-person hood then it's pretty likely that 1 of them is scum.

VOTE: Nero

I don't understand MB's eagerness and zeal to crumb, the hard defense of me in the first 10 pages of RVS where no yeet ever happens, the "forced" claim, while simultaneously shading my alignment.

At this point in the thread, I was thinking that at

most

one of {Nero, Math} were scum, so these two posts in succession are kind of interesting.

VOTE: DGB

[Nero Cain]

Why did you think me or math were scum?

[House]

The more I think about it, the more I want to

VOTE: Nero

for rightfully pointing out that DGB looked sus for scumreading him when they both agree that MB is scum and that he's actively pursuing a MB wagon, yet maintaining that MathBlade is scummier than DGB when directly questioned.

From his perspective, DGB *should* be scummier for pushing him when he's voting and pushing a wagon on a shared scumread.

Nero red flip suggests the hood is clean.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Why did you think me or math were scum?

You mean why I didn't think you and Math were SvS? Part of it is because I was thinking you were town already, and incidentally, MathBlade's reaction to being pushed seemed too emotional/genuine to feel like theater.

[MathBlade]

Four pages since my last post and it’s midnight.

Anyone wanna ask a quick question before I go to bed?

[House]

Four pages since my last post and it’s midnight.

Anyone wanna ask a quick question before I go to bed?

Opinion on 345?

[Nero Cain]

Is it just you and DGB in the hood?