Micro 1028: True Love (Game over)

[bnuuy]

hello i am soft fluffy bunny rabbit
ill trust wisdoms judgment about claiming lovers, im paired with aristeia

[bnuuy]

We did not coordinate our outfits.

nice pot stirring but they did end up pointing out their partner

this seems like a very vague pointing out
who do you believe it refers to?
also idk about any ari v dunn, seems more like ari v wisdom atm

[bnuuy]

right, i'm thinking more of ari's mentions of dunn seem more anti-paired than paired.
i don't exactly have thoughts on ari and wisdom's talk, mostly cause i feel like i'm missing context here. do ari and dunnstral know eachother?

did you think ari and dunn were paired?

[bnuuy]

So make use of your pts and townhunt

whats your deal?

[bnuuy]

cows can u expand on what u meant in 54

if me and dunn are scum and i continue to rule out dunn pairs then eventually i'll "box myself in" and have only myself as paired with dunn

W

scum cannot be paired as lovers
idr whether that's been the case in the past but in this game thats distinctly impossible

[bnuuy]

i just realized i missed the point of what cowslove is doing entirely

[bnuuy]

i just realized i missed the point of what cowslove is doing entirely

So what are they doing?

i dont entirely get what hes doing but my general assessment is hes scum hunting by a probably not so great method

[bnuuy]

bunny your posts are just vague statements
Do you have any reads or anything of value to say?

i trust you and ig cowslove rn

[bnuuy]

i dont really see what is so towny about hockey rn

[bnuuy]

its kinda making something out of nothing, i would have very likely posted the same opening as scum
which as i say that i can see rationale for that being a town behavior

[bnuuy]

anyway are we actually gonna finish claiming lovers?

[bnuuy]

Why, does it impede you from scumhunting?

i feel like if its not actually happening then i got conned basically

[bnuuy]

cows can u expand on what u meant in 54

if me and dunn are scum and i continue to rule out dunn pairs then eventually i'll "box myself in" and have only myself as paired with dunn

W

scum cannot be paired as lovers
idr whether that's been the case in the past but in this game thats distinctly impossible

Can you explain this post? Why did you say "scum cannot be paired as lovers"?

Lovers are divided into four pairs. Each Mafia Lover is paired with a Town Lover, so there will be two Town/Town lover pairs and two Town/Mafia lover pairs.

[bnuuy]

i don't know if i can wean anything from redtea's posting

what does wean even mean

i can get anything*

wean: to accustom (a young child or animal) to take food otherwise than by nursing
also thank you

[bnuuy]

Hard to get a solid T/T pair from those. I don't recall Dunn or N_M ever townbleeding in a game. Really hoping redtea will become better because their presence in the pt is as bad it is in the thread

yeah ive basically got one tr in each pair including myself

[bnuuy]

i posted a response to the first part in the lover pt
wrt the second, i dont feel thats entirely accurate and even if it was, whats wrong with that

[bnuuy]

ooh, wow

gun to head reads is that the scum-town pairs are bnuuy-ari and wisdom-red

thinking about it more:
i do think nm-hockey is towny so far but that's mostly based on the latter
i find ari's posting to be incredibly awkward but it may be some sort of reaction fishing? i'd have to look at different games for this one
find myself making shallow reads wrt bnuuy like "asking good questions" or "takes feel honest" so this is a read that should develop pretty quickly
wisdom - red remains incredibly null and i still find that dunn leans town so their placement is more based on POE

i didnt really synthesize this until just now
how is wisdom at null for you rn, hes been rather active so you should be able to place a read on him i think?

[bnuuy]

how is wisdom at null for you rn, hes been rather active so you should be able to place a read on him i think?

wisdom has been very proactive but i'm not comfortable placing a read on them, despite a lot of my reads being impulsive

a factor in this is the fact that they've played this setup thrice, while i'm unaware of what alignment he was in those 3 games because i haven't looked back, i'm fairly sure he knows what route to take both as town and scum to secure a win

but really it's because their content hasn't really taken me anywhere. their cards are close to their chest and i'd have to look deeper in their posts than i already have to figure out what exactly they're trying to do

i like their hockey read though

i dont know about the cards close to the chest point, he has taken stances but idr him going in depth on them much, so theres both an argument for and against what you said
also to speak on my own read there, its pretty much because i feel like wisdom is lacking any signs of being scum despite being so active and involved, though idk what those signs would be

[bnuuy]

cows can u expand on what u meant in 54

if me and dunn are scum and i continue to rule out dunn pairs then eventually i'll "box myself in" and have only myself as paired with dunn

W

scum cannot be paired as lovers
idr whether that's been the case in the past but in this game thats distinctly impossible

Can you explain this post? Why did you say "scum cannot be paired as lovers"?

Lovers are divided into four pairs. Each Mafia Lover is paired with a Town Lover, so there will be two Town/Town lover pairs and two Town/Mafia lover pairs.

ok so to clarify

You realized that Cow and I were a pair?

not really
i was deeply confused by what cowslove was doing

[bnuuy]

i posted a response to the first part in the lover pt
wrt the second, i dont feel thats entirely accurate and even if it was, whats wrong with that

I think the most important thing for a townie to do is to figure out if their lover is also a townie,

it is far more important than figuring out any other alignment in the game

you just didnt seem to care about my alignment. : (

its an easier road to take but not mandatory imo
if i manage to solve a different pair as town then i can let them be the endgame pair, its just that you have to solve 2 slots vs just the 1 if youre trying to figure out your lover is town or not
while i maybe should have done more earlier i am at the point where im looking to solve one more person within all pairs to solve any pair, so theres not a reason to focus on my own partner except that we can talk in the lover pt

[bnuuy]

i just clarified in the last post i made that because id sorted you hockey and cowslove as town and im town from my pov that means im left with 1 person to sort no matter which pair i were to focus on if i were to focus on one, which im not gonna do just now, maybe later

[bnuuy]

that was towards wisdom

[bnuuy]

Hockey #140
My view of hockey is not improving
I know you said you're not confident about town!Ari but is there more you could provide there?

bnnuy #99
I couldn't find the words yesterday, here they are.

how is wisdom at null for you rn, hes been rather active so you should be able to place a read on him i think?

wisdom has been very proactive but i'm not comfortable placing a read on them, despite a lot of my reads being impulsive

. . .

but really it's because their content hasn't really taken me anywhere. their cards are close to their chest and i'd have to look deeper in their posts than i already have to figure out what exactly they're trying to do

This is exactly how I'm feeling about Wisdom right now and I don't like that this stance is being antagonized.

i dont get how my post relates to what you said after

[bnuuy]

idk does hockeyfan typically make weird gut reads like that

Describing what made it so weird

ah you meant my post put your thoughts into words

[bnuuy]

ive been feeling good about ari but im not ready to fully declare a townread on her

[bnuuy]

i voiced suspicions of redteas recent posting in the lover pt and rather than create an echo chamber ari actually said she felt the opposite way
i dont think shes trying to manipulate me in the pt

[bnuuy]

i feel like redtea is scum because im getting a vibe that scum is in the wisdom-redtea pair and while wisdom is a townread his push against our pair feels suspect but in a way that it may be getting puppet mastered by redtea

[bnuuy]

VOTE: redtea

[bnuuy]

and if im right about this then ari is basically confirmed town for how redtea likely tried to spur wisdom against us

[bnuuy]

i feel like im being punished for actively trying to have a hand in the outcome of this game and its making me want to sink back into being low impact

[bnuuy]

i feel like im being punished for actively trying to have a hand in the outcome of this game and its making me want to sink back into being low impact

hockey town?

well yes, but that has nothing to do with the post you quoted

[bnuuy]

i feel like im being punished for actively trying to have a hand in the outcome of this game and its making me want to sink back into being low impact

people were sr'ing you for being low impact don't do that
/not a scum slip

thats the entire point
im damned if i do and damned if i dont
so i just want to take the path of least resistance

[bnuuy]

Dunnstal was mentioned a lot, sure, but in the context of Ari defending her words. Except for the posts made by cow, which kind of took Ari's interactions with Wisdom and ran a marathon with it for some reason.

slightly unrelated note but if one more person IIT calls my play shit i'm going to start sulking

youre a fine player
probably better than me

[bnuuy]

pro-hockey advocates always have a hand in town's direction

what does this mean

[bnuuy]

pro-hockey advocates always have a hand in town's direction

what does this mean

tongue in cheek comment about you voicing your desire to make an impact on the game

id like something more than platitudes

[bnuuy]

why doesnt ari reinforce my negative view on redtea in the pt then?

[bnuuy]

like, wisdom, the lower half of that pair, is still above 2 people for you, that would mean that ari gave up a chance to use me to strengthen the push she was making against redtea and instead argued the opposite read when that pair seems to be town/town to you. why does scum!ari reject such an opportunity?

[bnuuy]

why doesnt ari reinforce my negative view on redtea in the pt then?

like, wisdom, the lower half of that pair, is still above 2 people for you, that would mean that ari gave up a chance to use me to strengthen the push she was making against redtea and instead argued the opposite read when that pair seems to be town/town to you. why does scum!ari reject such an opportunity?

you're asking why ari didn't buddy you instead of scumreading you alongside redtea?

none of our lovers have attempted to buddy the other. why be the first? clearly none of the mafia are taking the angle of appealing to their partner in particular. i think it could be easy as "they're blending in"

youre missing the trajectory of my thought process. ari didnt attempt to buddy me, nor did she continue pushing me and redtea, instead she chose to reverse course on redtea. the only way that play makes sense as scum is if shes partners with someone in that pair, but you dont seem to believe that so why is ari scum when her logical partners arent your primary suspects?

[bnuuy]

2 slots vs 1 is a quite big difference bunny, don't try to shrug it off as minor
It's way easier to locktown your own pair over other pairs

ive been feeling good about ari but im not ready to fully declare a townread on her

I like bunny Aristeia pair for first lim

can i just say how absurd this is

[bnuuy]

like, i actually try to do the thing he criticized me for not doing and now he wants me dead
waste of my time is what it is

[bnuuy]

scum is one hundred percent in the wisdom-redtea and cowslove-dunn pairs

[bnuuy]

scum is one hundred percent in the wisdom-redtea and cowslove-dunn pairs

n_m got prodded and has 7 posts

How can you be so sure of this?

from what ive seen N_Ms attitude seems kinda town

Who are you calling scum between cow and I?

i think its you, you seem like youre watching from the sidelines eating popcorn
though apparently you scumcased aristeia in your pt, can you summarize that?

[bnuuy]

though apparently you scumcased aristeia in your pt, can you summarize that?

I did not, cows made that up

well then

[bnuuy]

i honestly think hockey/nm should be the endgame pair
theres something about nm that seems like town, plus while i think scum is in wisdom/redtea and cowslove/dunn idk if i can entirely make that happen while im alive
so instead i want to promote the one pair that isnt mine that feels trustworthy

[bnuuy]

VOTE: dunn

[bnuuy]

dunn hasnt done anything bad in PT or in thread
i explicitly want redtea's input on the wagon

thats kinda why i think hes suspect

[bnuuy]

wait lol, 1 thing, i tr mine/NM pair and cows/dunnstral pairs so do we just win after we condemm bnnuy/ari and wisdom/redtea lol? I mean those 4 have some sort of consenus pressure so idk why anyone would be opposed to that(im aware current wagon is on Dorsey but eh)

im assuming dorsey is some sort of typo
as ive said already i trust your pair the most to go into endgame so as long as me-ari, wisdom-redtea, and dunn-cowslove go in any order im amenable to whatever

[bnuuy]

Apparently, according to cows, that takes some time, but I'll wait.

And I am not content to sit and let me or Wisdom be limmed today or tomorrow, not with what info and reads I have.

?

below bolded is also a really out of place stance with what reads you've shown in thread right now

already addressed the top part but i disagree with the bottom part. i find ari/bunny suspicious, i found cows suspicious (going on tone alone he's sounding more towny in these last few pages but i need to reread him carefully before I change my stance there), I find hockey to be weird af.

It's like, at least half of you are raising flags for me. That honestly puts the lurkers (dunn and nm) higher than you all. Then slightly above that is Wisdom.

idk man I thought the status of my reads were more obivous
myb i put too much into tone and not words but idwanna check right this moment

i dislike this post immensely
its putting down 3 of the 4 slots i initially sorted as town, those being myself hockey and cowslove. the only one he doesnt put down is wisdom, who is his lover partner. in addition i dont like how he calls hockey weird, weird does not equal scummy and i feel like someone as experienced as redtea should know that
its just a really self-aggrandizing point of view and that seems scum motivated

[bnuuy]

Beyond paranoia that is my preferred vote as I think their aggressive sorting doesn't really make sense in places and they don't feel like town to me

well ive gotten crap for being passive and ive gotten crap for being active
I guess you guys just dont like me

[bnuuy]

i think dunn's only aligned with wisdom or redtea with emphasis on the latter.

this is pretty close to my hero solve

[bnuuy]

i think scum is in dunn and redtea
i wanted to keep this secret but i have prior experience with games involving multiple lover pairs and any time i feel like someone is behaving strangely its generally a portent that their lover partner is scum

[bnuuy]

and id felt things that pinged me from wisdom and especially you, but didnt seem entirely driven by a scum agenda

[bnuuy]

perhaps
thats more just a personal idiosyncrasy

[bnuuy]

dunnstral tends to be lower activity as scum or pr
there are no prs this game so his limited engagement is scum-indicative imo

[bnuuy]

dunnstral tends to be lower activity as scum or pr
there are no prs this game so his limited engagement is scum-indicative imo

This is not true

its not an exact science but i think it holds

[bnuuy]

Something feels off about Dunn barely showing thread presence and not interacting much with thread....

like, this is the actually scummy part of what dunns been doing
i just put it in the terms i remembered best

[bnuuy]

is this saying you also see potential in a cow/wis pair, though less so than me/dunn?
That would be pretty out there

And while I don't want to discount your experience, I feel like there should be something to back up a me/dunn solve.
Me saying we shouldn't lim a lurker atp doesn't count btw.

i feel like cow is pretty solidly town
but dunn/either of your pair feels possible, its just that ive seen stuff that looked towny and stuff that looked scummy from wisdom, meanwhile you havent felt as extremely out there as wisdom but have felt scummy in certain ways
perhaps thats the key to why i end up being right despite being wrong in identifying pairs with scum while not getting the right person exactly, i tend to overlook the person playing safe

[bnuuy]

a little bit
your gameplay has felt rather self-serving
wisdom has just not felt like hes been genuinely treating slots without bias

[bnuuy]

my money wrt which pair should endgame is on the hockey-nm pair rather than mine, so i dont think self pres is really that mandatory
in my case it feels like wisdom isnt sorting me fairly, theres some assumption i have to be evil ig. i dunno who else has mentioned bias and in what context so i dont want to speak for those other instances

[bnuuy]

whatever
VOTE: bnuuy
when i flip green condemn wisdom-redtea to the fires of hades asap

[bnuuy]

im done trying to use my words
instead ill let the flip speak for itself

[bnuuy]

when i flip green condemn wisdom-redtea to the fires of hades asap

[bnuuy]

yeah i dont get this either, pretty sure i died

[bnuuy]

hey so i was basically completely right about my reads

[bnuuy]

also rather offended at n_m just basically deciding to gamethrow

[bnuuy]

why did you think hockey was scum then

[bnuuy]

except i did that and it wasnt even my pair that id townlocked and i still was given all sorts of shit for how i was playing
youre a dirty fucking bastard wisdom

[bnuuy]

youre welcome to dm me your guess