Micro 1028: True Love (Game over)

[lilith2013]

V OTECOUNT 1.005
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES
HockeyFan (0)	None
Not_Mafia (1)	Not_Mafia
cowsloveSushirolls (1)	HockeyFan
Aristeia (0)	None
Wisdom (0)	None
bnuuy (1)	Wisdom
redtea (1)	cowsloveSushirolls
Dunnstral (0)	None
NOT VOTING: Aristeia, bnuuy, redtea, Dunnstral
With 8 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate. Deadline: (expired on 2021-09-21 10:30:00)
Notes: pagetop count: Wisdom 2 | Hockeyfan 1 | bnuuy 1 | lilith 1

[Wisdom]

I wouldn't be scum-reading myself

duh
Do you have to say so little every time?
I obviously asked you because I want to know why you're scumreading it

[Aristeia]

I don't think bunny has prioritized figuring out my alignment.

I also feel it's focusing on mech rather than actual alignment reading.

[bnuuy]

i posted a response to the first part in the lover pt
wrt the second, i dont feel thats entirely accurate and even if it was, whats wrong with that

[bnuuy]

ooh, wow

gun to head reads is that the scum-town pairs are bnuuy-ari and wisdom-red

thinking about it more:
i do think nm-hockey is towny so far but that's mostly based on the latter
i find ari's posting to be incredibly awkward but it may be some sort of reaction fishing? i'd have to look at different games for this one
find myself making shallow reads wrt bnuuy like "asking good questions" or "takes feel honest" so this is a read that should develop pretty quickly
wisdom - red remains incredibly null and i still find that dunn leans town so their placement is more based on POE

i didnt really synthesize this until just now
how is wisdom at null for you rn, hes been rather active so you should be able to place a read on him i think?

[cowsloveSushirolls]

how is wisdom at null for you rn, hes been rather active so you should be able to place a read on him i think?

wisdom has been very proactive but i'm not comfortable placing a read on them, despite a lot of my reads being impulsive

a factor in this is the fact that they've played this setup thrice, while i'm unaware of what alignment he was in those 3 games because i haven't looked back, i'm fairly sure he knows what route to take both as town and scum to secure a win

but really it's because their content hasn't really taken me anywhere. their cards are close to their chest and i'd have to look deeper in their posts than i already have to figure out what exactly they're trying to do

i like their hockey read though

[Dunnstral]

Why, does it impede you from scumhunting?

i feel like if its not actually happening then i got conned basically

err, i think i got the most out of it now? i'm lovers with dunn. i think they're fine with me claiming since they did it some 90 posts ago

We did not coordinate our outfits.

In my head post 16 was more obvious that I was claiming than it ended up being

[Wisdom]

a factor in this is the fact that they've played this setup thrice, while i'm unaware of what alignment he was in those 3 games because i haven't looked back, i'm fairly sure he knows what route to take both as town and scum to secure a win

Here they are, for your convenience
I was town in all of them, won 2 of them

[Dunnstral]

cows can u expand on what u meant in 54

if me and dunn are scum and i continue to rule out dunn pairs then eventually i'll "box myself in" and have only myself as paired with dunn

W

scum cannot be paired as lovers
idr whether that's been the case in the past but in this game thats distinctly impossible

Can you explain this post? Why did you say "scum cannot be paired as lovers"?

Lovers are divided into four pairs. Each Mafia Lover is paired with a Town Lover, so there will be two Town/Town lover pairs and two Town/Mafia lover pairs.

ok so to clarify

You realized that Cow and I were a pair?

[Aristeia]

i posted a response to the first part in the lover pt
wrt the second, i dont feel thats entirely accurate and even if it was, whats wrong with that

I think the most important thing for a townie to do is to figure out if their lover is also a townie,

it is far more important than figuring out any other alignment in the game

you just didnt seem to care about my alignment. : (

[cowsloveSushirolls]

a factor in this is the fact that they've played this setup thrice, while i'm unaware of what alignment he was in those 3 games because i haven't looked back, i'm fairly sure he knows what route to take both as town and scum to secure a win

Here they are, for your convenience
I was town in all of them, won 2 of them

awwww yeah
reading a tiny bit
i like the uniformity of your opening posts

[bnuuy]

how is wisdom at null for you rn, hes been rather active so you should be able to place a read on him i think?

wisdom has been very proactive but i'm not comfortable placing a read on them, despite a lot of my reads being impulsive

a factor in this is the fact that they've played this setup thrice, while i'm unaware of what alignment he was in those 3 games because i haven't looked back, i'm fairly sure he knows what route to take both as town and scum to secure a win

but really it's because their content hasn't really taken me anywhere. their cards are close to their chest and i'd have to look deeper in their posts than i already have to figure out what exactly they're trying to do

i like their hockey read though

i dont know about the cards close to the chest point, he has taken stances but idr him going in depth on them much, so theres both an argument for and against what you said
also to speak on my own read there, its pretty much because i feel like wisdom is lacking any signs of being scum despite being so active and involved, though idk what those signs would be

[bnuuy]

cows can u expand on what u meant in 54

if me and dunn are scum and i continue to rule out dunn pairs then eventually i'll "box myself in" and have only myself as paired with dunn

W

scum cannot be paired as lovers
idr whether that's been the case in the past but in this game thats distinctly impossible

Can you explain this post? Why did you say "scum cannot be paired as lovers"?

Lovers are divided into four pairs. Each Mafia Lover is paired with a Town Lover, so there will be two Town/Town lover pairs and two Town/Mafia lover pairs.

ok so to clarify

You realized that Cow and I were a pair?

not really
i was deeply confused by what cowslove was doing

[bnuuy]

i posted a response to the first part in the lover pt
wrt the second, i dont feel thats entirely accurate and even if it was, whats wrong with that

I think the most important thing for a townie to do is to figure out if their lover is also a townie,

it is far more important than figuring out any other alignment in the game

you just didnt seem to care about my alignment. : (

its an easier road to take but not mandatory imo
if i manage to solve a different pair as town then i can let them be the endgame pair, its just that you have to solve 2 slots vs just the 1 if youre trying to figure out your lover is town or not
while i maybe should have done more earlier i am at the point where im looking to solve one more person within all pairs to solve any pair, so theres not a reason to focus on my own partner except that we can talk in the lover pt

[Wisdom]

2 slots vs 1 is a quite big difference bunny, don't try to shrug it off as minor
It's way easier to locktown your own pair over other pairs

[HockeyFan]

VOTE: bunny

Lets get some wagons going actually, they might help

Sure. VOTE: RedTea, someone that I dont really TR rn

its kinda making something out of nothing, i would have very likely posted the same opening as scum
which as i say that i can see rationale for that being a town behavior

Thats how you start discussions/get the game moving

I think cows is town(I like his reads although I do agree that not having a read on Wisdom is ??(i think bunny said this)). As for Wisdom, Im putting him in TL for now. Ari maybe town?(not confidnet on this at all). I dont have a read on N_M as he hanst posted much in thread/PT. N_M did say in PT tho thats hes not intrested in townhunting because of too much effort and I think lack of effort matches pretty well with his town meta.

[bnuuy]

i just clarified in the last post i made that because id sorted you hockey and cowslove as town and im town from my pov that means im left with 1 person to sort no matter which pair i were to focus on if i were to focus on one, which im not gonna do just now, maybe later

[bnuuy]

that was towards wisdom

[Wisdom]

Speaking of N_M, I'm reminding anyone who may not know that he likes to hammer without warning so treat your E-1s as hammers around him

[Dunnstral]

cows can u expand on what u meant in 54

if me and dunn are scum and i continue to rule out dunn pairs then eventually i'll "box myself in" and have only myself as paired with dunn

W

scum cannot be paired as lovers
idr whether that's been the case in the past but in this game thats distinctly impossible

Can you explain this post? Why did you say "scum cannot be paired as lovers"?

Lovers are divided into four pairs. Each Mafia Lover is paired with a Town Lover, so there will be two Town/Town lover pairs and two Town/Mafia lover pairs.

ok so to clarify

You realized that Cow and I were a pair?

not really
i was deeply confused by what cowslove was doing

Then I don't understand post 80

[Wisdom]

cows can u expand on what u meant in 54

if me and dunn are scum and i continue to rule out dunn pairs then eventually i'll "box myself in" and have only myself as paired with dunn

W

scum cannot be paired as lovers
idr whether that's been the case in the past but in this game thats distinctly impossible

By paired he means scumbuddies I believe

@Dunn

[cowsloveSushirolls]

N_M did say in PT tho thats hes not intrested in townhunting because of too much effort and I think lack of effort matches pretty well with his town meta.

could you talk a bit about the amount of effort he's showing is similar to the other games you've played with him? (first thing that comes to mind is the popcorn game, unsure what else)

[cowsloveSushirolls]

I don't think bunny has prioritized figuring out my alignment.

I also feel it's focusing on mech rather than actual alignment reading.

dunn started asking about my reads a couple of minutes after this post. funny coincidence

[HockeyFan]

N_M did say in PT tho thats hes not intrested in townhunting because of too much effort and I think lack of effort matches pretty well with his town meta.

could you talk a bit about the amount of effort he's showing is similar to the other games you've played with him? (first thing that comes to mind is the popcorn game, unsure what else)

uhhh, I havent played much games with him(other then popcorn), but I've specced a few of his games(cant recall of top of my head), and he puts /some/ effort as scum. In popcorn I think his play was tryhardish but again, not alot of effort

[redtea]

Hockey #140
My view of hockey is not improving
I know you said you're not confident about town!Ari but is there more you could provide there?

bnnuy #99
I couldn't find the words yesterday, here they are.

how is wisdom at null for you rn, hes been rather active so you should be able to place a read on him i think?

wisdom has been very proactive but i'm not comfortable placing a read on them, despite a lot of my reads being impulsive

. . .

but really it's because their content hasn't really taken me anywhere. their cards are close to their chest and i'd have to look deeper in their posts than i already have to figure out what exactly they're trying to do

This is exactly how I'm feeling about Wisdom right now and I don't like that this stance is being antagonized.