Mini 2228: Isekai uPick - Endgame

[Gamma Emerald]

Speaking of Cabd, in 633 you reference your reaction to ManateeGal as being a reaction test, right? Were you expecting anyone in particular to react a certain way, or was it geared towards getting a reaction from anyone in particular?

yes and no!

Everything I do, I try to extract max value out of. I did try to shape my objections similar to what had hit the thread re: LLD's role but they were also genuinely my thoughts at the time, in that I struggle to see how this setup will be set up around what is effectively double day. Generally speaking, I try to ascribe to mods that they won't make a single player or role have so much agency that it denies others theirs completely, but that would be the case here if Manatee and LLD are both town.

okay this was like, THE post that made me townlock cabd. Something about the way the extracting value was discussed just rung out as town to me

It's definitely becoming a larger problem. I noticed is mostly with bell in the last game, but "You aren't allowed to scum read me lol and it's a pox on your house if you do" is completely against the idea of the game of mafia. People get to live inside their heads and know their role PMs but like, you can't expect everyone to have that luxury.

Being wrong is a thing that happens. By definition, a LOT in a game like this.

At the risk of making your hair stand on end for what is explicitly a blatant buddying attempt: Wanna just be in thread neighbors for a while? I for one am open to hearing about your take on fferysci. As the game that shall not be named showed, my reads aren't ALWAYS xenoblade tier perfect. Maybe I'm missing something major that you're seeing.

this one I think also helped

devil's bargain

In fairness, last time this happened was the Unwnd Large?

this wasn't really a conscious factor I think but I could definitely see me having registered on some level that this makes sense more from town pov than scum? Like it seems cabd interpreted what LLD was indicating as "I might be getting lured to my death again" vs. "I might be getting snowed by you for choosing to accept your olive branch"

these are all the posts I can identify within where I'm pretty sure I got that read thread-location wise

[Kate Bishop]

I am finding it hard to believe that GiF has no idea what his role does, that he just disappears for an undetermined amount of time

I think the vote was placed by him and doesn't match his stances.

And he quick hammered before heading out.

We're probably dead before figuring this out is a priority, but noted.

[Gamma Emerald]

I am finding it hard to believe that GiF has no idea what his role does, that he just disappears for an undetermined amount of time

I think the vote was placed by him and doesn't match his stances.

And he quick hammered before heading out.

We're probably dead before figuring this out is a priority, but noted.

wut
I thought you were unkillable at night or smth?

[Kate Bishop]

I am finding it hard to believe that GiF has no idea what his role does, that he just disappears for an undetermined amount of time

I think the vote was placed by him and doesn't match his stances.

And he quick hammered before heading out.

We're probably dead before figuring this out is a priority, but noted.

wut
I thought you were unkillable at night or smth?

no idea why you thought that.

[Gamma Emerald]

The reason I was crumbing watcher as well as neighborizer is because being reflexive means we get the info that a self-watcher would get via our neighborhood, aside from anyone who tried (and failed) to kill us.

tried and failed to kill you
that means you're immune to killing roles, no?

[Gamma Emerald]

I think I need to reset a little myself

I think it's time I made good on this
LLD GiF and Luke are the slots I'm already pretty sure are town out of the living
if I factor in flipped town as well I should be able to get a good idea of who scum is just by rereading

[Kate Bishop]

The reason I was crumbing watcher as well as neighborizer is because being reflexive means we get the info that a self-watcher would get via our neighborhood, aside from anyone who tried (and failed) to kill us.

tried and failed to kill you
that means you're immune to killing roles, no?

No. If we die, that's it for the neighborhood.

If we're targeted by a kill and it fails for some reason (say, protection), the player who tried to kill us wouldn't be added to the neighborhood.

[Gamma Emerald]

fuck me

[WhemeStar]

Why is LLD town?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm pretty damn sure her claim is legit and her emotional output this game has felt genuine as fuck

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Gamma what's your role?
VOTE: Gamma

[Lukewarm]

I am not caught up, but I am wondering if lld ever claimed the rest of her ability?

[Gamma Emerald]

LLD stated D1 her only functionality was to be an extra option for who to send to do the factional kill

[Cabd]

I'm awake.

And cranky and still tired, but awake.

Re-reading the first third of day one was a great sleep aid but not much else.

Gamma claim stalling here sucks, out with it.

If gamma/marcislot ~is~ scum, it's with somebody fluent in crumbs. I'm still not sure that the reply to me is all that awkward as Luke makes it out to be though, as opposed to just flavor-dressing... but we won't know until we get a flavor and role claim from Gamma.

[Gamma Emerald]

myeah I'm not reading the full thread either
I'm just gonna self-ISO and hope I get my solve that way

[Kate Bishop]

I'm awake.

And cranky and still tired, but awake.

Re-reading the first third of day one was a great sleep aid but not much else.

Gamma claim stalling here sucks, out with it.

If gamma/marcislot ~is~ scum, it's with somebody fluent in crumbs. I'm still not sure that the reply to me is all that awkward as Luke makes it out to be though, as opposed to just flavor-dressing... but we won't know until we get a flavor and role claim from Gamma.

Speaking of crumbs there's a rather big question out there for you.

[Cabd]

I missed it, please requote.

[Kate Bishop]

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He kept getting sent back to the beginning. Why, and how should be evident. Fucking soloqueue lmao

The line about the beginning was a signal to check the first letter of each word. I later reference this post used one of the old style (anagram, as was discussed in Bloodstained) and one of the new style in this crumb.

The new style was about how it worked, similar to a Ryze ultimate which required people gather in one spot. The lovers recall, in the other quote ffery mentioned is similar. Typically one person starts channeling, then the second goes to them and channels themself to get sent somewhere

But the real issue is the anagram word, because it shows up somewhere else too!

Are you a forester, then?

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troubadour

meme here.

Which is the role ffery and Cabd thought I had in Yggdrasil and they (correctly) suspected was a neighborizer.

[Cabd]

Where is the question here?

424 was a shitty fire emblem joke.

https://fireemblem.fandom.com/wiki/Forrest

[Kate Bishop]

Are we supposed to believe that isn’t you acknowledging my crumb? For a neighborizer?

[Cabd]

I thought you were talking about the ryze ultimate as in realm warping to create a masonry; but only AFTER the other later crumb clicked and I went back.

[Cabd]

Are we supposed to believe that isn’t you acknowledging my crumb? For a neighborizer?

Yes?

I didn't get that at all.

[Lukewarm]

LLD stated D1 her only functionality was to be an extra option for who to send to do the factional kill

She definitely crumbed that she had more then that

[Lukewarm]

I am like 5 pages behind or something, and won't be catching up tonight unless I am hit with insomnia tonight.

Just had a question cross my mind, and checked for the answer

[Cabd]

Like, it would have been to my credit if I did, but I really REALLY didn't.