3d20 – Shed of the Dead

[Dwlee99]

Spoiler:

So in light of new info, I'm going to guess that it's redtea and Gamma. Which I think is way worse for town than Nero and Gamma.

Spoiler: full game spoiler

It's Robert and Gamma versus Nero. Yep, you read that right. Multiball.

Spoiler: confirming/denying your guess

Incorrect.

Spoiler:

Also I'm assuming there was a scum doubled vigilante. Which, if so, what the heck lol

[cyrus62]

Thank you dw when you won scum for us you tight me a nice trick . I take the flack well my partner gets more and more town cred.

[Cook]

Spoiler:

So in light of new info, I'm going to guess that it's redtea and Gamma. Which I think is way worse for town than Nero and Gamma.

Spoiler: full game spoiler

It's Robert and Gamma versus Nero. Yep, you read that right. Multiball.

Spoiler: confirming/denying your guess

Incorrect.

Spoiler:

Also I'm assuming there was a scum doubled vigilante. Which, if so, what the heck lol

Spoiler: response

yes, there's a werewolf 1-shot doubled vigilante. the alternative was doubled vigilante. i toned it down.

[Dwlee99]

Thank you dw when you won scum for us you tight me a nice trick . I take the flack well my partner gets more and more town cred.

No problem

[Dwlee99]

Spoiler: thoughts on balance

tbh this setup was kind of unwinnable for town. 2 factions of 2 group scum + CL is a 8 - 5 setup. Even with a correct lim day one, we get 8 - 4 -> 4 - 4 if CL hits town, mafia hits town, and the doubled vigilante werewolf hits town. Obviously scum are likely to hit each other by accident (as happened with the CL) but still, the doubled vigilante really gave scum way too much killing power. Are werewolves able to kill each night as well?

[Marashu]

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From Nero's POV, redtea lied about his (Gamma's) role. Why is Gamma the play here? Hm...

[cyrus62]

i gave him the keys and the ball can he pull it off time will tell.

[cyrus62]

also if my partner was paying attention he could have hammered cakes i would have earn massive town credit for pushing the cult and been able to ride that wave to at least day 3.

[Marashu]

i gave him the keys and the ball can he pull it off time will tell.

I think you might have mixed your metaphors there...

[Marashu]

also if my partner was paying attention he could have hammered cakes i would have earn massive town credit for pushing the cult and been able to ride that wave to at least day 3.

Yeah, probably

[cyrus62]

also if my partner was paying attention he could have hammered cakes i would have earn massive town credit for pushing the cult and been able to ride that wave to at least day 3.

Yeah, probably

day2 play would have been push ssbm for saying there was no cult . james dead either way i had planed on eating a bullet from town for killing him.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I've been eliminated as town (during the day) 3 times since coming back - twice I was quickhammered by scum, and once because I faked a guilty - I don't think pushing me for a mislim works that early when there are a lot of town left alive, even if the player I'm at odds with

has a strong reputation like Nero does

[Dwlee99]

Spoiler:

GG

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Oh I meant to ask, were all 13 roles actually distributed at random or was there some element of

giving the werewolves their own rolls so that no other factions would know they existed?

[Cook]

Entirely random.

I received rolls from everyone, constructed those roles, then looked at the list as a whole and rebalanced it as non-disruptively as possible, informed you all of how many rolls I fudged to give an element of setup spec aside from everyone massclaiming roles, and then distributed the new roles.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Yeah so in that case I think the setup was balanced, town was close to winning here and it's not like we made stellar plays

[Dwlee99]

Spoiler: thoughts on balance

tbh this setup was kind of unwinnable for town. 2 factions of 2 group scum + CL is a 8 - 5 setup. Even with a correct lim day one, we get 8 - 4 -> 4 - 4 if CL hits town, mafia hits town, and the doubled vigilante werewolf hits town. Obviously scum are likely to hit each other by accident (as happened with the CL) but still, the doubled vigilante really gave scum way too much killing power. Are werewolves able to kill each night as well?

This though?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

If werewolf had been intentionally hidden it would have been a different story I think - if anything the fact the roles are shuffled makes it townsided because of forcing massclaims the way we did

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Tbh it looked like Nero was going to give it to town, unfortunately redtea guiltied the 1-member faction

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I do think it's a little rough if both werewolf roles were created by fudging the alignment die though. If Nero or Cakez actually rolled werewolf and lied about it to hide that faction from town, more power to them I guess. But if werewolf was hidden from everyone and had NK plus a doubled vigilante I'm sus

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Love the premise though and would play again