Mini 2228: Isekai uPick - Endgame

[Kate Bishop]

My point is that it's not really a question of what sort of 1v1 I would initiate as a scum hydra, because it's unlikely I'd be the initiator.

I'm not sure where the conversation is going either.

[Cabd]

Where do you want it to go?

Because I'm a dead fish as a conversational partner so you'll need to lead.

[Kate Bishop]

Here's a sketch of why we're scumreading you.

1. It starts with your manatee vote after Titus flipped. When Titus didn't flip at the end of Day 1, we assumed Titus' death probably wasn't happening for some reason, and we were avid to see how they both reacted to that fact at the start of Day 2. We held on to the thought that for some reason the flip might not happen until day 2, though. And then the flip did happen, and we had that discussionless vote where some player(s) not currently able to post (dead, or GiF) put a vote on manatee at the start of the day.

There was an approx 30 minute break between when Titus's flip was posted and when the votecount went up, with one vote already on Manatee. There's no way to know whether that vote was placed with the knowledge that Titus died, but I lean toward yes, I guess.

For the rest of us, though, we had 24 hours to take it all in, and two players voted Manatee -- and you were one of them. Which is why we voted you. We really expected the majority of players to choose no-elim, especially you. And you WERE aware of the situation the elim put us in: your first post of the day was to caution that we're at MELO.

2. Your scumread of us felt extremely reactive to our own scumread of you, and didn't seem to build out from there much.

3. Most of your interactions with us since then feel like you've been trying to get me to call off notsci, rather than to figure out/address our concerns.

and 4. we still are skeptical/confused that you got "masonizer" from our crumbs, when I made no reference at all to Action Dan (who was the masonizer in that game), and focused on my hydra and you.

There's a lot of additional words/links to the fullblown case, but those are the highlights. And I feel like hitting you with an essay isn't really going to be helpful given the circumstances.

[Dunnstral]

I don't think S_S would be able to use their own role in death I think there would be special dead powers

So not doctor

I think my role indicates they should be the same in death, otherwise my watcher is unlikely to be useable in a game with this much kill power.

Which is also why I was thinking due to the length it took for that to come online, it might indicate that death was where the real game took place, but seems that's not the case since we got flips.

Kate's role too, my guess is they can still vig someone in their hood from the grave

Doesn't this lend credence to my role? Otherwise it can only be used on s_s when they are alive?

[Cabd]

You forgot (5)- the whemestar stuff i was promised, but okay. Not really sure how I feel about that but I'll tackle each as best I can, I suppose.

[Kate Bishop]

You forgot (5)- the whemestar stuff i was promised, but okay. Not really sure how I feel about that but I'll tackle each as best I can, I suppose.

Your claim, and the whole katniss stuff is a weight on the other side of the balance. Regardless of alignment, your role could and I think did contain info about the character(s) existence. The way you went about day 1 is why you were a strong townread for most of the day, and it was marci's lack of activity that caused reads of both of you to deteriorate before she was replaced.

I dunno. I feel like the very fact that I went to such extremes to tell you about our neighborhood mechanic and to INVITE you to target us if you could should have come off incredibly town to you.

Your entrusting us with your crumbs had that effect on us day 1.

[Kate Bishop]

I'm gonna foodtell for a while. notsci is probably able to continue the discussion while I'm gone.

[Kate Bishop]

Hi I’ve been lurking

Lines of questioning and all that

[WhemeStar]

You forgot (5)- the whemestar stuff i was promised, but okay. Not really sure how I feel about that but I'll tackle each as best I can, I suppose.

What does this mean

[Cabd]

I dunno. I feel like the very fact that I went to such extremes to tell you about our neighborhood mechanic and to INVITE you to target us if you could should have come off incredibly town to you.

Once again this is not at all what I drew from the Convo.

I thought you were targeting ME.

[Kate Bishop]

I dunno. I feel like the very fact that I went to such extremes to tell you about our neighborhood mechanic and to INVITE you to target us if you could should have come off incredibly town to you.

Once again this is not at all what I drew from the Convo.

I thought you were targeting ME.

"wallflower"

but, I don't think this goes anywhere helpful. It's a matter of coincidences vs not, to some degree, especially with notsci's crumb and your post containing "troubadour".

What were your thoughts regarding Titus flipping that led you to vote manatee anyway?

[Gamma Emerald]

LLD I think we need to have a brutally honest chat post-game.

[Gamma Emerald]

Like, it could technically happen during the game but for thread health it’s best we postpone it.

[Gamma Emerald]

On second thought, probably forget it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

look if you got something to say just say it i am not here for like

half in anxiety

[Gamma Emerald]

I should have just held my tongue

[Gamma Emerald]

Hey,

Rhiannon playing this game. How fortunate for you, not so fortunate for us, I suppose.

Our role is a trashheap pure negative utility role

. I begin the game brainwashed.

At night, the scum may use me to perform their night kills.

Oh, and I have the town win condition but thankfully I've been told that I don't count towards the Mafia despite being brainwashed, so that's good at least.

Is there any indication on how to remove the brainwashing? If you

begin the game

brainwashed, there is a chance you can break the brainwashing, no?

You should really not read into how I phrase these things. I'm purposefully trying to dodge directly quoting the role PM by accident. As far as I'm aware, I have no method of breaking the brainwashing.

HEYHEY HOLD ON
What the FUCK was this for, what with your claim not being what you said it was initially???

[Gamma Emerald]

That’s not to do with the “we need to talk” FYI

[Kate Bishop]

Hi, just wondering where your heads at LLD?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hey,

Rhiannon playing this game. How fortunate for you, not so fortunate for us, I suppose.

Our role is a trashheap pure negative utility role

. I begin the game brainwashed.

At night, the scum may use me to perform their night kills.

Oh, and I have the town win condition but thankfully I've been told that I don't count towards the Mafia despite being brainwashed, so that's good at least.

Is there any indication on how to remove the brainwashing? If you

begin the game

brainwashed, there is a chance you can break the brainwashing, no?

You should really not read into how I phrase these things. I'm purposefully trying to dodge directly quoting the role PM by accident. As far as I'm aware, I have no method of breaking the brainwashing.

HEYHEY HOLD ON
What the FUCK was this for, what with your claim not being what you said it was initially???

2 things

1) because litigating my claim helped scum
2) because my role PM tells me scum aren't aware of certain aspects of my role, and I wanted to prevent that from happening

[Gamma Emerald]

So that means scum also WERE aware of certain aspects?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hi, just wondering where your heads at LLD?

my head is at: sobbing miserably because i am flying back home tomorrow and will miss girlfriend and hate my job and just am not really into this whole deal

we're kind of blending, so apologies if you're not getting 100% Rhi rn

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So that means scum also WERE aware of certain aspects?

Yes. Did you think they wouldn't know I was brainwashed and that they could use me?

[Gamma Emerald]

They obviously had to know something
Just, I’m starting to feel like Wheme just hit a nail on the head