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[Kerset]

With claims so far though I don’t see Ythan being able to claim blocked so if scum gives us more wine.

You said this but you don't know his gate. Tomorrow he can say that he is actually odd-night or non-consecutive night. You haven't make sure of that.

[DrippingGoofball]

Ythan was in my POE and made a bad claim. I want one less scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

With claims so far though I don’t see Ythan being able to claim blocked so if scum gives us more wine.

You said this but you don't know his gate. Tomorrow he can say that he is actually odd-night or non-consecutive night. You haven't make sure of that.

That's my issue, EVEN IF HE WAS UNGATED he should have claimed a gate

[MathBlade]

Smh, and why does a backup vig have to exist?

Titus if I have to answer this it’s really anti town
I have hinted at it several times.

[MathBlade]

With claims so far though I don’t see Ythan being able to claim blocked so if scum gives us more wine.

You said this but you don't know his gate. Tomorrow he can say that he is actually odd-night or non-consecutive night. You haven't make sure of that.

That's my issue, EVEN IF HE WAS UNGATED he should have claimed a gate

No.

If I was a gated cop I claim ungated here to eat a bullet or elim.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I can confirm what DotW claimed. That's why I got pinged by the iguanas getting shipped to Titus, because I suspected someone had impersonated DotW when mailing me, until I saw him crumb about snail mail. I thought somehow an Iguana was a reference to a lizard like a Bearded Dragon or a Komodo Dragon that lead to "Dragon", and the shipment implied it came from somewhere else ("The West"?)

It seemed suspicious to me that Titus would know about DotW being a mailman unless Titus also received mail, or she was the impersonator. As I caught up though I saw the crumb from DotW and that's why I relaxed on the iguanas. DotW asked me to crumb to him who he should send mail to by referring to him as Dragon instead of DotW, so if you ISO me today you'll see I only used "Dragon" when trying to hint at who he should message (A50 and Nero).

While we're at it I'm VT.

Didn't Nero claim vig of some kind?

Also, making Titus Novice and House Lazy makes it so those investigatives are pretty weak. I also believe Cop the least but if he's town Ythan probably just gets shot so I'm chillin. Unless we have like, multiple scum fakeclaiming it seems ideal to just eliminate VTs. and if multiple scum are fakeclaiming the mechanics will out them I think.

[DrippingGoofball]

Scum will claim PRs at E-1.

We the town are the ones that need to be the judges and yeet bad claims.

Agreed.

But if three scum exist Ythan literally put himself in a no win situation with that claim with one scum against the world. It’s so bad and in combination with voyeur has to be true.

No he'll be blocked, investigate the NK'd players, claim false results...

[MathBlade]

I can confirm what DotW claimed. That's why I got pinged by the iguanas getting shipped to Titus, because I suspected someone had impersonated DotW when mailing me, until I saw him crumb about snail mail. I thought somehow an Iguana was a reference to a lizard like a Bearded Dragon or a Komodo Dragon that lead to "Dragon", and the shipment implied it came from somewhere else ("The West"?)

It seemed suspicious to me that Titus would know about DotW being a mailman unless Titus also received mail, or she was the impersonator. As I caught up though I saw the crumb from DotW and that's why I relaxed on the iguanas. DotW asked me to crumb to him who he should send mail to by referring to him as Dragon instead of DotW, so if you ISO me today you'll see I only used "Dragon" when trying to hint at who he should message (A50 and Nero).

While we're at it I'm VT.

Didn't Nero claim vig of some kind?

Also, making Titus Novice and House Lazy makes it so those investigatives are pretty weak. I also believe Cop the least but if he's town Ythan probably just gets shot so I'm chillin. Unless we have like, multiple scum fakeclaiming it seems ideal to just eliminate VTs. and if multiple scum are fakeclaiming the mechanics will out them I think.

No. Nero said PR but not a vig.

[MathBlade]

Scum will claim PRs at E-1.

We the town are the ones that need to be the judges and yeet bad claims.

Agreed.

But if three scum exist Ythan literally put himself in a no win situation with that claim with one scum against the world. It’s so bad and in combination with voyeur has to be true.

No he'll be blocked, investigate the NK'd players, claim false results...

Blocked if town >> 1v1 means we win via confs more than likely.
Investigate NK’d players >> It’s why Ythan should crumb I will ask him what his crumbs were tomorrow so he literally has to crumb who the NK is.
Claim false results >> Not likely with 2 or three scum left. More than likely he gives us a town if scum.

[Kerset]

Kyouko why are you scumreading me?

[DrippingGoofball]

Ythan was about to be yeeted. All those scenarios are better for scum than Ythan being yeeted today.

[Titus]

@Math, How do you expect we get these confirms when all our real invests are weak and Ythan will lie?

Odds are that I get an innocent if I survive (which I won't). House isn't giving a result thanks to you. Ythan will lie.

How is this game solved through comps or waiting?

[MathBlade]

@Math, How do you expect we get these confirms when all our real invests are weak and Ythan will lie?

Odds are that I get an innocent if I survive (which I won't). House isn't giving a result thanks to you. Ythan will lie.

How is this game solved through comps or waiting?

Assume Ythan lies or tells the truth and says player X is scum. Assume 3 scum at start of game. Assume scum successfully night kill.

Then one of Ythan or X flips scum. This means on Day four worst case scenario it’s one scum v 8 if my math is right. And at least two confs make it through.

Ythan’s claim is not one that makes it to end game.
Ythan if scum cannot afford a 1v1

[MathBlade]

I have to head to work now but scum do not want a 1v1 if only two scum are alive.

[Titus]

Ythan is not going to give a result, regardless of his alignment Math.

Given House's claim which deactivates at 1 scum remaining and my claim which deactivates at 1 scum remaining, scum likely don't have a roleblocker.

[MathBlade]

Ythan is not going to give a result, regardless of his alignment Math.

Given House's claim which deactivates at 1 scum remaining and my claim which deactivates at 1 scum remaining, scum likely don't have a roleblocker.

I think that is a wait and see scenario because I think Ythan is town here and the pushes on a crumbed cop are sus as fuck. I really have to go.

[Titus]

House, is there any chance you could investigate Ythan? For me.

[Kerset]

Fuck it.

We're massclaiming because I fucking hate this game now.

Novice Traffic Analyst. Ignuanas were my crumbs. If they leapt terribly, someone had a PT.

Ythan is not going to give a result, regardless of his alignment Math.

Given House's claim which deactivates at 1 scum remaining and my claim which deactivates at 1 scum remaining, scum likely don't have a roleblocker.

you haven't said that you are lazy

[MathBlade]

Fuck it.

We're massclaiming because I fucking hate this game now.

Novice Traffic Analyst. Ignuanas were my crumbs. If they leapt terribly, someone had a PT.

Ythan is not going to give a result, regardless of his alignment Math.

Given House's claim which deactivates at 1 scum remaining and my claim which deactivates at 1 scum remaining, scum likely don't have a roleblocker.

you haven't said that you are lazy

TAs only work when the player can communicate with someone.

The last scum would no longer be able to communicate making it in effect lazy.

[Titus]

House did or so it says.

Also, last scum cannot speak in a PT.

[Kerset]

i see

[Titus]

A50 for your benefit so you don't have to read

Ythan claimed cop
I am novice TA
Dragon claimed mailman.

[MathBlade]

A50 for your benefit so you don't have to read

Ythan claimed cop with innocent on Nero
I am novice TA
Dragon claimed mailman.

Kyo claimed VT

Fixed it for you.

[Almost50]

I will have to brainstorm on that. Usually PT cops see things TAs can’t.

Mailman & Friendly Neighbour don't have PTs but CAN communicate privately, so these give a positive result to a TA but negative results to a PT Cop

[Ythan]

If you say DGB, who is scum among the people I can actually check?

I kinda wanna say you should check Kyo. I think she’s town but she makes a good check since she shouldn’t be able to communicate.

She's a decent choice. Also Ythan is too.

You are a giant clown.