Final Fantasy XIV - A Realm Reborn Mafia (Game Over)

[Bell]

Because It hurts to be wrong.

[Toogeloo]

You've been wrong before, I assume. Are you always scared?

[Bell]

Uh, yeah, hence why I'm indecisive.
Also, why are you assuming that? You've played with me quite a few times at this point.

[Toogeloo]

Just seems weird to be afraid to have a stance.

[Toogeloo]

You're basically asking someone to make decisions for you because you have no backbone. Of course, you could just be fence sitting and trying to avoid having convictions as well.

[Bell]

I'm genuinely skeptical that you think that's weird. You should have played enough mafia games to know that a lot of players are hesitant to make decisions.

[Bell]

Uh, no that was Dwlee. Dwlee was asking that.
I've led my fair share of wagons which you should also know. I've also pushed people this game, repeatedly, and for different reasons before either losing focus or changing my mind or keeping myself in that ambiguous head space where there are certain explanations and I'm not sure which is more likely for a players behavior.

[Bell]

For example, I'm not sure if Romance is informed and that's why they got all passionate about the TC defense. The guilty on Cakez points away from that possibility, so I weighed that down onto the probably just town side, I also felt that expressing that suspicion in thread instead of notes wouldn't be productive and would probably piss Romance off If was wrong too.

[Toogeloo]

Ok. Sure. I believe you.

[Bell]

That's an example of a ambiguity, before weighing the probability and deciding that, for now, I should just sit on it. Before reaching a conclusion.
I have limited time during the weekdays due to work, so often I don't have the time to process information like I normally would.

A lot of questions have gone unasked because I out right wasn't reading sections and so haven't made enough scenarios overall to explain each player's behavior. I normally don't even do that until we get close to or are in elo.

[tictac]

[Qrow and Raven]

I mean it's not as bad as katsuki claiming masons with scum and then getting janitored, but why else would they be janitored in the first place.

That was that magical girls UPick I was in and got N1ed in, right?

-Qrow/Gamma

How did I miss this? I totally forgot about that game. I’ve been racking my brain how raid failed and T3 gets killed over both a hardclaimed cop and doc. Sure it’s possible T3 is scum and did this only crazy gambit and his buddies killed him to cover it but I thought he was probably town, so it just sounded closer to tin foil. I think it’s definitely possible that Sakura could be onto something with that. I think it makes the most sense. Unless they were not actually the taeget and like in me v Titus, there’s some kind of switching type of role, which would actually be hilarious if that turned out to be the case.

~R

On the one hand this feels extremely clandestine given GiF also ran

that game

. On the other, mastina is claiming to have to ability to unravel this mess, so I think it would be foolish to not let her try.
UNVOTE:
Last I checked I was 20-something pages behind, so while I want to re-vote Elsa I'm also erring on the side of caution.

-Qrow

[Mandelbrot]

Titus, I think we should tell mastina a secret.

- House

Mastina doesn't trust you though.

She trusts the slot.

I can't very well have a different color role pm.

She's just forgotten how to read me, which is sad because she was one of the first that could read me within my first 10 posts back in the day.

[Mandelbrot]

I'd tell Romance a secret over mastina. I trust their judgment more. I think both are town but I want secrets to be told to the people I trust to act positively with them. If you feel it's needed to get mastina straight, you do you. It's your call after all. You got my guidelines.

Your input is always appreciated.

- House

[Qrow and Raven]

hokay raven, here's the case on you.

day 1:
gamma: is familiar of elsas meta yet his day1 posting about elsa gives easy townpoints for stuff that is fully NAI for elsa (bravery, multiball spec). partner-read or attempt to pocket, currently leanin former.
raven: lied about doing an ISO on AA (described process is not how the site works)
day2:
gamma: was ok
raven: huge reaction to me saying I don't trust them doesn't match them insisting they didn't care if they were on the raid or not. said they wanted contributing slots on the raid, but was fully OK with Tomorrow being included, so I'm calling bull. admittedly I dunno what is the scum motivation to be on the raid given, that buddy already on it.
all of her focus on my read on her("what is tictacs threat-level?") and others reads on me("is he mislynchable?"), none of her focus on whether or not I was town ("

should

i be pushing tictac"), given that 2 slots were claiming info-that-makes-me-town, so its super not rocket-science that I in fact am.

While this isn't exactly all wrong, it's mischaracterizing everything imo.

• My elsa meta: idk why being familiar with elsa's meta means I shouldn't have TRed Elsa's play. And what about how my read shifted throughout D1? YOu conveniently overlook that I actually grew more skeptical of Elsa as time passed.
  
• The AA "ISO": I'm pretty sure what Nancy
  meant to say
  was egosearch. I don't think that term is separated from ISO enough that using the wrong one is a problem.
  
• The D2 raid: I was actually probably the one you should be addressing here, but anyway. I don't recall Nancy ever being okay with TC being on it, and neither was I. You however tried to twist things so that TC being removed was out of the question by trying to make the switch-off a two person deal where Elsa and you switched for Mystics and T3.

-Qrow

[Mandelbrot]

Because It hurts to be wrong.

So nice to meet you, Chidi Aragonye.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Ok. Sure. I believe you.

You forgot the /s.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I normally don't even do that until we get close to or are in elo.

Statements like that make me want to feed you an arsenic cocktail.

[Mandelbrot]

Because It hurts to be wrong.

So nice to meet you, Chidi Anagonye*.

- House

My b.

[Qrow and Raven]

Let it be known that majority of people here value being 'right' than winning.

- Done with everything

I don't get why you feel this way tbh
I don't see how being right and winning are different here.

-Qrow

[Mandelbrot]

Let it be known that majority of people here value being 'right' than winning.

- Done with everything

I don't get why you feel this way tbh
I don't see how being right and winning are different here.

-Qrow

That was Yume, but I get her feels.

She is mainly referring to people demanding to get their way & damn the cost & damn anyone who disagrees because THEY FUCKING KNOW.

- House

[tictac]

@gamma ye, we could do the quote-wall tango, but seems kinda futile when I don't think either of us wants to yeet the other today.
I just cased top of my head cause I was annoyed by Nancy insisting to be trusted by default when I don't even think you guys are >rand town.

[Qrow and Raven]

Annnnnnd Titus with the slam dunk.

Your welcome kids. We saved the day.

Who is scum for you?

-Qrow

[Qrow and Raven]

VOTE: Dwlee

-Qrow

[Titus]

VOTE: Bell