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Post Post #5100 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:54 am

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In post 5098, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 5092, Titus wrote:I still don't get the point of a code. No one doubts DotW is a mailman. There's no unclaimed to keep hidden.
It allows Math to crumb targets via the code without having to rely on DGB's honesty in the event of Math's death. I think right now only Math and DotW know the code - I was worried about, what if Math dies, DotW can say the numbers mean anything he wants, but as long as he keeps sending the code to someone new every night until Math dies (at which point the code is kinda useless), it's fine. If he doesn't send the code to someone new one night and Math dies it gets sus.

I'm wary of DotW putting stock in my memory lapse as a townslip because I feel like scum are more likely to take that at face value. But idk if holistically he seems scummy. I feel like if I don't step up and solve I just never die and I stay somewhat lost in this game. I think the mech spec is getting to me here a bit too much and I've long since lost sight of the forest. Do we actually have cases on anyone at this point or is it mostly "there's 5 PRs, we should lim in the PRs" vs "there's 6 PRs, we should lim in the VTs"?
I don’t get the whole argument about number of VT vs PR either Nero iirc is the big pusher.

The reason the code works is if let’s say I die. DoTW has already said he is sending the code to someone else. The code is rather ingenious and because 2 is not me then 2 will be alive. If DoTW lies about the code then 2 has to lie about the code or be given the wrong code. The wrong code is unlikely because if he changes it he risks me not being in the code anymore or a silly answer like I block him.

DGB has the number, 2 and I and DoTW the code. No matter how it gets sliced if a kill happens who I protected will be clear. It will be especially clear if we elim in Kerset/Kyo.
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Post Post #5101 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:01 am

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Aight then

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Post Post #5102 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:08 am

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Mafia Voyager Rolecop
Mafia Bulletproof Acetic
Mafia ?


1-shot Cop
JOAT (Neighbor, Rolecop, Roleblock)
Novice Traffic Analyst
Mailman
Simple Jailkeeper Neighbor
Neighbor
Vanilla Townie
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Vanilla Townie


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Mafia Bulletproof Acetic
Mafia ? Neighbor


1-shot Cop
JOAT (Neighbor, Rolecop, Roleblock)
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Mailman
Neighbor
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
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now look at normal archive, which i posted long ago but people ofc didn't care. Games get 7VT, usually get 6 VT, rarely 5. Here you think that we got 4VT and semi-VT...
giv me pagetop :(
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Post Post #5103 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:09 am

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btw neighbors are not doublevoters
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Post Post #5104 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:48 am

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Briefly skimming the normal archive - it's uncommon, but certainly not rare, to see 13p games with 4 VTs. When this happens, the roles are generally complicated in terms of having many modifiers, usually gating modifiers, like non-consecutive, novice, odd/even-night, etc. From the claimed and flipped roles, we have a LOT of GATED roles, so I actually think it makes the most sense for us to be in a 4VT game. That gates town!Math even harder.

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Post Post #5105 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:52 am

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Vote Count 4.03
Kerset (3)
- DrippingGoofball, MathBlade, ssbm_Kyouko
MathBlade (1)
- Kerset
Dragon of the West (1)
- Titus

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I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #5106 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:52 am

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Actually Nero I saw that post by Math about a Vig shooting CSF. My Kerset vote hinges on you actually being a VT. If you claim gated vig that shot at CSF, I will POE through PRs instead of Kerset, as that is the correct play. I'm not going to blindly assume that the reason you're pushing PR claims is that you know there is actually 1 less VT (you) than currently claimed.

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Post Post #5107 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:50 am

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@Kyoko and Math, Ok the code makes sense. Although we only need one of DGB/Kyoko.
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Post Post #5108 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:51 am

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*DotW
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Post Post #5109 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:52 am

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*shrug* I'll reconsider my VT math and stance tonight.
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Post Post #5110 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:07 am

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Math, have you already crumbed to DGB? If not, please wait to do so until my response
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Post Post #5111 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:27 am

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In post 5110, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Math, have you already crumbed to DGB? If not, please wait to do so until my response
He did share his target but not the message from Dragons.
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Post Post #5112 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:28 am

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The target for last night, Andres specifically.
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Post Post #5113 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:32 am

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In post 5107, Titus wrote:@Kyoko and Math, Ok the code makes sense. Although we only need one of DGB/Kyoko.
I'm town and I strongly suspect that Lyouko is, too.

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Post Post #5114 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:39 am

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In post 5110, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Math, have you already crumbed to DGB? If not, please wait to do so until my response
I won’t crumb to DGB until tonight.

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Post Post #5115 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:43 am

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Oh okay so Math, Dragon already outed who you were on the list with his EoD comments about "should I message 5" "actually 5 was supposed to be 3" - SO:

Instead of crumbing you and your target in a 2 digit number, like 13, or 34, instead you need to string together 2 digits that represent a claimed PR and a claimed VT. Then DotW would know your target was the claimed VT
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Post Post #5116 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:45 am

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In post 5115, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Oh okay so Math, Dragon already outed who you were on the list with his EoD comments about "should I message 5" "actually 5 was supposed to be 3" - SO:

Instead of crumbing you and your target in a 2 digit number, like 13, or 34, instead you need to string together 2 digits that represent a claimed PR and a claimed VT. Then DotW would know your target was the claimed VT
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Post Post #5117 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:50 am

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Like suppose I'm 2 and Titus is 4 - if you were jailing me, 24 or 42 would be your crumb

Pedit: I guess you can do that, my suggestion is geared towards if we lim claimed PR today. If we lim in me and Kerset, it's assumed you'll jail the other one
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Post Post #5118 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:03 am

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Smart town would just leash math at this point. It's not like scum would try to kill unconfirmed VT or there could be two scum to pick which may pick to be killed between each other...
but all people are doing this game are trying to please this princess
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Post Post #5119 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:06 am

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In post 5118, Kerset wrote:Smart town would just leash math at this point. It's not like scum would try to kill unconfirmed VT or there could be two scum to pick which may pick to be killed between each other...
but all people are doing this game are trying to please this princess
What is the point of this post?
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Post Post #5120 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:27 am

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I feel mentally better when i express my feelings.
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Post Post #5121 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:19 am

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Frankly, this game has turned absolutely boring. I’m basically waiting to get shot here.

And when I do, execute Math.
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Post Post #5122 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:20 am

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This whole exercise in confirming players and trying to play it out mechanically is just not real mafia.
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Post Post #5123 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:21 am

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Can somebody try to explain to me what makes Kerset Scum outside of this need to try and sort through either the PRs or the VTs?
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Post Post #5124 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:04 am

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In post 5122, Andresvmb wrote:This whole exercise in confirming players and trying to play it out mechanically is just not real mafia.
It does feel like this and not cooperative either. That's likely why we can't get any wagons going.
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