Mini 2247: Mountain Dew Mafia (Game Over)

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Vote Count 1-6

Several dews a day keeps the ability to qualify for life insurance away!

Dunnstral (3): E. M. M. I., Milk & Mocha, Critter
Venus Fly Trap (1): Towelie
Gamma Emerald (1); StrangeMatter
Toogeloo (1): Wisdom
Towelie (1): Venus Fly Trap
E. M. M. I.(1): Toogeloo
StrangeMatter (1): MUSHSHAGANA


Not Voting (4): Dunnstral, Something_Smart, Gamma Emerald, Lady Lambdadelta

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to eliminate a flavor.

Current Deadline: (expired on 2021-11-02 20:02:57)

[Something_Smart]

normally IC doesn't reveal the whole role tho, lol

But surely she knew it was going to in this case.

[Critter]

This game is hard to follow for me for some reason but Dunn does not look like the scum Dunn I know at all

You and I know very different scum Dunn’s then.

[Critter]

Critter

what did critter do between 166 and now, 166 seemed like a townread on critter?

-b

You should always have eyes on your friendly insects. It’s good to be paranoid of me. I am just the weird automaton who says weird stuff but loves everyone <3

Btw Mush might be scum sads

[Critter]

Welp.

Calling Dunn flipping red. Regardless of flip, I also like the bears for scum right now.

Eyes on Critter, Something_Smart, StrangeMatter.

Meant to quote this lmao

[Gamma Emerald]

Welp.

Calling Dunn flipping red. Regardless of flip, I also like the bears for scum right now.

Eyes on Critter, Something_Smart, StrangeMatter.

agreed the bears are prolly scum, most likely not for the reasons you have tho

[Critter]

Welp.

Calling Dunn flipping red. Regardless of flip, I also like the bears for scum right now.

Eyes on Critter, Something_Smart, StrangeMatter.

agreed the bears are prolly scum, most likely not for the reasons you have tho

Why do you feel like you’re buddying me? What are your reasons?

[Critter]

And mush isn’t bears they’re some weird avatar?

Bears + Gamma?

[StrangeMatter]

Looking back, I'm not sure I'm understanding Dunnstral's scum gameplay. Last I checked, nobody talked about what Dunnstral's scum looks like, only that it is completely different from what they know.

So, can someone please explain to me what Dunnstral's scum gameplay is like?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Why the sigh? I was always flipping this day 1, it's literally optimal from my position entering this game. I have been playing with the intention of flipping it early today the whole time.

I mean that's another sigh. It's obviously mechanically suboptimal to have a macho IC flipping D1. I hope the subjective benefits can outweigh that, but I feel like it wouldn't have been that bad for you to at least try to push what you want without flipping and see if you were able to.

This is strictly wrong. The odds of getting shot, getting run up and being forced to use it or just being useless while you sit on it are too high.

If you are a player who finds yourself regularly doing nothing on day 1 and letting others guide early maybe flipping it is wrong but even then there is a whole host of reasons why it is better to flip day 1.

We can have this discussion after the game if you like but the play I made was the optimal play for my role easily.

[Something_Smart]

The odds of getting shot, getting run up and being forced to use it or just being useless while you sit on it are too high.

None of these seem bad to me.

Regardless, sure we can discuss it after the game, but from a mechanical perspective it's objectively bad. (Which is the one I tend to approach games with wherever possible.) I hope (and trust) that you can make good use of it.

[Toogeloo]

My opinion is that LLD saw she had IC and could barely contain herself, looking for literally anything to pick a fight just so she could go, "Hah!"

There's literally nothing in her claim to suggest scum Dunn, she just needs the bravado to sell it.

[Gamma Emerald]

And mush isn’t bears they’re some weird avatar?

Bears + Gamma?

When I said bears I meant BEARS, which is Milk and Mocha!

[Gamma Emerald]

If I was responding to you why’d I quote someone else’s post

[MUSHSHAGANA]

StrangeMatter leaning red. I'm really feeling Dunn and the bear pair right now, but number three is a harder decision to make. I'm gonna call it StrangeMatter for now (recency bias!) but Something_Smart is definitely up there.

Three things for Critter:
1: I thought you quickhammered.
2: Quickhammering red that you had so much doubt on the alignment of out of the blue would have been awful scummy, particularly with bears right behind. I'd have far too many red, so I would be trying to whittle it down, hence eyes on.
3: Gamma was, like, clearly replying to my message from last night. Like your name was not there, you were not quoted. It was to me and about my message? That was weird of you to misinterpret that hard -- so weird that I'm just gonna call it NAI. Because if it's AI, you're a third party or scum who has lost the plot and stuck their foot in it -- and if I read the setup right, there are no 3Ps.

PEDIT: Oh, okay, so n.3 is handled then.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

My opinion is that LLD saw she had IC and could barely contain herself, looking for literally anything to pick a fight just so she could go, "Hah!"

There's literally nothing in her claim to suggest scum Dunn, she just needs the bravado to sell it.

I'm so tired of you. Get over yourself. I confidently misread you in one game and now you're taking every opportunity to insult my intelligence. Are you just trying to bait me to get angry? Or is this just not giving a shit about how others feel?

I'm asking you to stop being a jerk and play the game.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh and for the record Toog, your play in the game you're complaining about was sufficiently scummy that 7 other players also agreed you were scum. Admittedly, some of those were scum, but you managed to convince about 5 townies you were scum that game, so I don't know why you've got this problem with me all of a sudden.

If it was just me being wrong or illogical on you, you should have been able to survive without others scumreading you.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh and finally, what motivation does this serve you, doing this? You now know I'm town, so you're discrediting confirmed town.

That's playing against your wincon, if indeed you are town. If you think Dunn is town, you should be trying to convince me and others of this fact, instead of just taking pointless potshots at my character.

[Critter]

Welp.

Calling Dunn flipping red. Regardless of flip, I also like the bears for scum right now.

Eyes on Critter, Something_Smart, StrangeMatter.

agreed the bears are prolly scum, most likely not for the reasons you have tho

Then what are you agreeing with here? I think this is where the train derailed? There’s no mention of Milk/Mocha and the only other person here is Mush?

[Dunnstral]

Mushshagana writes a lot of words but reaches no conclusions and doesn't talk about their reads beyond "I'm feeling it".
Toog's post is weird because they are focused on the IC and not in a good way.
Strangematter asked a pretty legitimate questionvthat deserves an answer rather than them being disregarded and called scum without explanation

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Welp.

Calling Dunn flipping red. Regardless of flip, I also like the bears for scum right now.

Eyes on Critter, Something_Smart, StrangeMatter.

agreed the bears are prolly scum, most likely not for the reasons you have tho

Then what are you agreeing with here? I think this is where the train derailed? There’s no mention of Milk/Mocha and the only other person here is Mush?

Mush and Gamma both reference Bears to mean Milk and Mocha, because those characters are bears andbecause one half of the Hydra is PookyTheMagicalBear.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Mushshagana writes a lot of words but reaches no conclusions and doesn't talk about their reads beyond "I'm feeling it".
Toog's post is weird because they are focused on the IC and not in a good way.
Strangematter asked a pretty legitimate questionvthat deserves an answer rather than them being disregarded and called scum without explanation

Which SM question was that?

[Dunnstral]

Aso Toog can you explain your read on me?

[Dunnstral]

Mushshagana writes a lot of words but reaches no conclusions and doesn't talk about their reads beyond "I'm feeling it".
Toog's post is weird because they are focused on the IC and not in a good way.
Strangematter asked a pretty legitimate questionvthat deserves an answer rather than them being disregarded and called scum without explanation

Which SM question was that?

283; I believe this is not the first time somebody asked something like this and it feels like Mush slotted them as scum for that post

[Critter]

Welp.

Calling Dunn flipping red. Regardless of flip, I also like the bears for scum right now.

Eyes on Critter, Something_Smart, StrangeMatter.

agreed the bears are prolly scum, most likely not for the reasons you have tho

Then what are you agreeing with here? I think this is where the train derailed? There’s no mention of Milk/Mocha and the only other person here is Mush?

Mush and Gamma both reference Bears to mean Milk and Mocha, because those characters are bears andbecause one half of the Hydra is PookyTheMagicalBear.

I can’t read. Whoops.