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Post Post #525 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:54 pm

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In post 522, Noraa wrote:
In post 519, Vulture wrote:If you think that I am going to use the past ~10 or so posts as anything other than my own amusement for making you dig for my main account you have a poor understanding of how I function as a player.
Don't think I've ever truly understood you. I've tunneled you as town. Completely misread guilties from you as scum. I dont get your play even though I keep thinking I'm starting to get it.
This is perhaps more sincere of an answer than I expected, frankly, which means I don't quite get all the nuances there either.

(None of this was done out of ill will, either.)
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Post Post #526 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:56 pm

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In post 524, Noraa wrote:
In post 521, Vulture wrote:At best, giving you the information/making you find it allows you to see better my perspective, particularly regarding my view of you as a scum player.
Perhaps. I always struggle playing with you as town because I'm always so scared of being pocketed and it's kind of stupid because the actual game that you are scum and I am town, I just know I'll get pocketed in an instant. But I also swear we're never the same alignment but maybe alts change that who knows.
Fun fact: I roll town on this alt a whole lot more, and have only rolled it once. Repped into a scum slot, but otherwise majority town.

I also do not play as I traditionally do as scum on this account, anyways.
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Post Post #527 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:57 pm

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In post 523, Vulture wrote:I am town for my contributions thus far. I do not have the strength of a vote/wagon/etc to support this, but at the very least I have proven I am thinking through the pieces of this game and not going with 'easy options' simply because they are easy, but because I believe they are scum.

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I am town because I haven't been afraid to take responsibility for my actions. Besides that, there's not much else that's really AI for me at this point. Like there is but at the same time, there isn't. It's all very based on this game and my meta doesn't really support those arguments too much.
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Post Post #528 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:59 pm

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Mmm.

I'll sleep on that statement because I don't know if the way you've spoken about your hammer is taking responsibility, but I am bored and tired now, so good night.
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Post Post #529 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:00 pm

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In post 525, Vulture wrote:(None of this was done out of ill will, either.)
I didn't take it personally at all.
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Post Post #530 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:02 pm

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In post 528, Vulture wrote:Mmm.

I'll sleep on that statement because I don't know if the way you've spoken about your hammer is taking responsibility, but I am bored and tired now, so good night.
I dont really take responsibility for my hammer. It depends on how you define it I guess. I'm more talking about my reads in general
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Post Post #531 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:02 pm

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Ok gn!!
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Post Post #532 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:06 pm

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oh also like when someone's like NORAA THIS IS YOUR FAULT, im way less likely to uh admit to it. Probably way less likely to believe I take any responsibility too.
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Post Post #533 (ISO) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:11 pm

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Vulture I just want you to know your case on me is atrociously stupid.
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Post Post #534 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:02 am

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In post 455, Noraa wrote:
In post 414, Deimos27 wrote:In a pool of {redtea, Kop, NM} that's enough to guarantee Kop being scum. In a pool of {Noraa, redtea, Kop, NM) it guarantees at least 1 scum in {Noraa, Kop}
This logic is totally wack
I gave an objectively correct PoE. When the conditions I stated hold, those conclusions follow. For reasons that are frankly more about basic arithmetic than logic. Now if you disagree with whether the conditions hold that's another matter.
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In post 421, Deimos27 wrote:
In post 415, Tamora's Angel wrote:I don't read the game like that unless absolutely forced to or scum are eliminated. With no content from NM it would be hard to eliminate him as partners with anyone.
Ok, I know I'm not in the majority by doing associatives without flips. Did you read the argument for why redtea's voting behaviour does imply they're not with NM though? I feel they should've voted Noraa instead of NM (back when they did so) if they were teammates with NM because they had been shading Noraa so much in the posts prior.
By your logic, red tea is scum with everyone in the game that they haven't voted because they've shaded everyone.
My logic could well be really bad but it's impossible to tell from your posts because you never actually refute any of my logic, you are too busy refuting imaginary logic that you project onto me. Every time I have thoroughly dismantled your misreadings and misunderstandings. I will do so yet again.

The argument wasn't that you are scum with redtea because they didn't vote you despite shading you. That's not what I said. The argument made no conclusions about your alignment and was given in a context that was only discussing whether redtea can be scum
with NM
, and I was saying I didn't think he could be.

The argument was that redtea should vote someone who is town whom they are positioned to be able to vote
rather than
vote their scumpartner. The fact that they did so suggest the person they voted wasn't in fact their scumpartner.

If you actually engaged with
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logic, you would have a good chance of changing my mind, like Vulture did, who actually presented an independent argument to think {redtea, NM/STD} shouldn't be excluded as a potential team.
Like the thing is your reads are so messed up. Like your elim pool isn't even an elim pool. You dont have a single good reason to scum read kop whereas I have a good reason to townread them (pending confirmation since theres a replacement who i dont know)

The logic is so fucked up I dont even know where to start picking it apart.
Kop had 4 posts, there was no way I was gonna exclude them from my PoE pool are you joking? To me he was null at best. Your read of him was all meta that I do not have experience with.
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Post Post #535 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:11 am

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In post 460, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I’d be ok with voting Redtea and Vulture today i think.
Any particular reason why Vulture > STD?
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Post Post #536 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:12 am

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I resonate with Vulture a lot I feel like
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Post Post #537 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:23 am

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I'm pretty indecisive between who I want to elim in {Noraa, redtea, STD} I feel like each of these have their pros and their cons.
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Post Post #538 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:32 am

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I guess I should say that my vote is no longer on Noraa even symbolically, I really am considering redtea or STD instead.
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Post Post #539 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 1:23 am

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I need to catch up from last night but I seriously wonder why no one has FoSed me.
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Post Post #540 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 6:18 am

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In post 480, Noraa wrote:I guess I still have a lot of issues with most of redtea's posts but that's because redtea has an advantage over vulture in that vulture has a pretty nothing nothing predecessor and has only been here for a little.
but you townread kop, how could he be nothing nothing
In post 484, Noraa wrote:
In post 483, Vulture wrote:But hey, there you go.

inb4 I was right when I joined it's redtea/Noraa and they both work together to get me elimmed today and 480's the walkback on a partner.
That's not how it works because then my scum buddy and i are mega fucked tomorrow but ok king :roll:
this is wine but it is making me question my solution
In post 526, Vulture wrote:Fun fact: I roll town on this alt a whole lot more, and have only rolled it once. Repped into a scum slot, but otherwise majority town.
my fun fact is cooler
In post 535, Deimos27 wrote:
In post 460, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I’d be ok with voting Redtea and Vulture today i think.
Any particular reason why Vulture > STD?
do you actually have a case against me?
In post 539, Tamora's Angel wrote:I need to catch up from last night but I seriously wonder why no one has FoSed me.
why would you be FoSed
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Post Post #541 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 11:45 am

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Vote Count 2.04

redtea (1):
Vulture
Noraa (1):
redtea
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Vulture (1):
NorwegianboyEE
Not Voting (3):
Save The Dragons, Deimos27, Noraa


With 7 alive, it's 4 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 2 is November 2 at 4:30 PM EST. Deadline timer:
(expired on 2021-11-02 16:30:00)
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Post Post #542 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:42 pm

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vla 1 day
and probably fairly inactive for the rest of the day anyways because halloween

I wanted to do more today I'm just so terribly mad about something (irl) right now and my brain won't let me do anything else. Sorry but ftr I still think redtea is scum here. If redtea isn't scum, vulture is. Could be worthwhile to take that shot today but idk if it's really worth the risk and guilt I'll feel if that is wrong. Idk.

Kop was nothing nothing in post count. Your point?

Also, I dont entirely understand why people townread Norwee. Am I missing something here or what?
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Post Post #543 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:44 pm

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And I guess last reads if this is my last day in the thread for whatever reason:
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Post Post #544 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:44 pm

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i don't understand the shift from being adamant kop was town to having vulture be potentially scum
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Post Post #545 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:45 pm

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norwee does things as scum he's not doing here
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Post Post #546 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:45 pm

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Dont question the deimos read honestly. I dont want to talk about it.
Anyways that's hopefully it from me for today. If I come back, please tell me to leave I have other things I need to be doing.
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Post Post #547 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:53 pm

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@STD, Because we're close to Elo?
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Post Post #548 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 1:03 pm

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why would someone fos you for that
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Post Post #549 (ISO) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 1:33 pm

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I’ll catch up tommorow.
I’m starting to feel better finally.
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