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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:26 pm

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Ah that's a good point. You probably want to fix that.
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:28 pm

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I'm ok with it not being possible, just checking whether M002 should be given another clause forbidding the player whose name the vote coupon is in from thereafter changing their vote
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:30 pm

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I assume from your response that it totally is possible to change votes (I certainly see no rule forbidding it) and therefore I think we will need to reword M002 accordingly
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:31 pm

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VOTE: Nay M002
I guess this is a safe vote because it won't apply if I am wrong about the changing votes thing.
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:47 pm

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Edited M002 to include the following:

In addition, [PLAYERNAME] may not change their own vote on chosen proposal or motion via any method, however other players may change [PLAYERNAME]'s vote.
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:53 pm

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VOTE: Aye 325
VOTE: Aye M002 as amended.
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:56 pm

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325 passes

M002 currently has 2 votes for it and 1 vote against it.
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:01 pm

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Wiki has been updated.
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:08 pm

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VOTE: Yea M002
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:15 pm

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3 votes of the required 4
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:52 pm

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Why are inactive players getting money? Shouldn't tris still be at N$1,000 and Charles510 at N$1,100?
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:59 pm

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In post 210, StrangerCoug wrote:Why are inactive players getting money? Shouldn't tris still be at N$1,000 and Charles510 at N$1,100?
I didn't read it carefully enough. I believe that is correct actually.
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:03 pm

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I went and fixed it in the wiki.
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:09 pm

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VOTE: Aye M002
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:12 pm

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M002 should pass with that.
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:13 pm

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Excellent
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:26 pm

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Proposal 326: There is hereby added a fourth page to the Nomic: Wiki Edition article on the MafiaScum Wiki, which is hereby titled "Shops", and which shall contain all the shops currently in operation in the game. Each shop shall have its own section. Each shop's section shall list the items it currently has for sale, each item's current price in at least one currency accepted by the shop, and any other information relevant to each item's availability (e.g. the quantity remaining of Limited Supply items and the date and time of the removal of sale of Limited Time items).
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:30 pm

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Looks logical to me but will wait for Ircher to chime in as I am considering them an authority on the wiki
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:44 pm

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I counted, and I think Prince Jake, son of the 7th circle only has 4 points for 301, 322, 323, and 324. This is at least what I have with regards to the archive. (Motions don't count as they are "proposed motions" and not proposals.) Can someone else double-check this?

With regards to 326, that sounds like a good idea. I added a subsection for the shop under player statuses, but we could certainly move it to a new page.
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:54 pm

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So relating to statute III of the Nomic Central Bank: it may be wise to require the BoD to approve changes to the supply of a currency, or at least to automatically invalidate the current exchange rate of a currency whenever its supply is changed, to prevent people "printing money" to take advantage of an exchange rate in the short term and buying out the shop.

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A player can print more of their currency at any time and in any quantity by posting in bold a request to do so in the format '
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', but they may not do so more often than once every 48 hours. The BoD of the Nomic Central Bank is required to produce a statement approving the change and declaring an update to the exchange rate (which may be that the currency is deemed valueless) within 48 hours of the request. When the statement is published the changes in the currency supply and its exchange rate go into effect simultaneously and immediately. When money is printed it is printed into the inventory of the owner of the currency. Some of a currency may be requested to be removed from circulation by the same mechanism by printing a negative X, but this can only remove from circulation money in the inventory of the owner and it cannot bring that quantity below 0.

Am open to fiddling with the time periods.
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:55 pm

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VOTE: Aye 326
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 3:04 pm

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Of course the ability to print money directly into your own inventory still stands to be problematic since it allows devaluing other people's holdings of your currency — but at least now the frequency with which this can be done is capped. Besides, I kind of feel that's a fun and natural part of the currency politics. If you're seen to regularly devalue others' holdings of your currency you undermine it as a store of value and risk people giving up on using your currency altogether.
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 3:19 pm

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In post 218, Ircher wrote:I counted, and I think Prince Jake, son of the 7th circle only has 4 points for 301, 322, 323, and 324. This is at least what I have with regards to the archive. (Motions don't count as they are "proposed motions" and not proposals.) Can someone else double-check this?

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VOTE: Yea 326
Prince Jake, son of the 7th circle has 5 points, as 325 is mine
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 3:36 pm

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In post 219, Deimos27 wrote:So relating to statute III of the Nomic Central Bank: it may be wise to require the BoD to approve changes to the supply of a currency, or at least to automatically invalidate the current exchange rate of a currency whenever its supply is changed, to prevent people "printing money" to take advantage of an exchange rate in the short term and buying out the shop.

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A player can print more of their currency at any time and in any quantity by posting in bold a request to do so in the format '
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Am open to fiddling with the time periods.
I like this! I think we will give the bank another day for discussion in which I'll make a final draft and then it'll come to a vote.
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 3:40 pm

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