Micro 1032: Baton of Desperation [Game Over]

[Enchant]

Eh. Then it’d be obvious if scum flipped tomorrow who their partner was.

Who do you think is the scum team based off your theory?

idk

i will just fight for baton so scum will be elimmed for sure if they are not blessed.

[ratmans]

Enchant for the last time I'm not against you.

I'm going to twiddle my thumbs until the replacement gets here because I'm a patient boy. I trust Enchant with the baton but I don't want them to give it away on a whim.

Enchant, who are you thinking about passing it to? I don't care who, I just care that you're thinking about it.

I think I was wrong about Wisdom which isn't very wise. I do think ratmans is town now.

What exactly made you trade one townread for another?

[ratmans]

@Mod

just to double make sure, the baton holder will be okay until 24 hours after someone replaces in right?

Exactly

[CheekyTeeky]

Because there's no reason for someone to think you're townie enough to pass the baton to unless they know you're town and like that you want me deaded because it suits a scum agenda. It also makes sense for scum to pass you the baton and keep you as a mislim later in the game when there is sufficient interest in your exile.

[CheekyTeeky]

Any reason you prefer Enchant over the other eligible baton holders?

[ratmans]

Your thought process is sound I just don't agree with the place you started at. So you're okay in my book right now.

Enchant's easier to read and doesn't look scummy yet. Also they aren't pretending they have anything to say.

[Enchant]

Enchant for the last time I'm not against you.

I'm going to twiddle my thumbs until the replacement gets here because I'm a patient boy. I trust Enchant with the baton but I don't want them to give it away on a whim.

Enchant, who are you thinking about passing it to? I don't care who, I just care that you're thinking about it.

Actually didn't really thought about it, planned to consult with everyone else before making decision.

Choice is hard, if mafia somehow avoided baton and my chooce really matters, then two from Dagbe, Vulture and Margot are scum. It's hilarious, considering one of them never posted and getting replaced, so it's actually chooce "Should i even consider giving baton to foreverlurk slot or nah". So if i get baton, i will probably wait for replacement before even thinking.

[Wisdom]

Yeah we should wait either way

I just got impatient

[ratmans]

I only just stopped myself from handing it over right away, I feel you

[Vulture]

Your thought process is sound I just don't agree with the place you started at. So you're okay in my book right now.

Enchant's easier to read and doesn't look scummy yet. Also they aren't pretending they have anything to say.

Hmm.

[Enchant]

Your thought process is sound I just don't agree with the place you started at. So you're okay in my book right now.

Enchant's easier to read and doesn't look scummy yet. Also they aren't pretending they have anything to say.

Hmm.

Hmmmmmmm.

[Vulture]

HMMMMMM.

[Vulture]

I don’t mind if I don’t get the baton BTW, I find this setup a lot more disengaging than I thought I would.

[Enchant]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Imo i think we need to enforce surprise rule of "You can't grant baton to same person." so mafia who just granted baton to other mafia is getting dirt.

[Vulture]

Hmmm.

Yeah it’s probably good in theory but I think in a setup like this where people expect a certain amount of agency it’s hard to enforce. Also if the person townreads like, only 1 of 3 remaining options but passed it to that 1 before, etc.

[Enchant]

Hmmm.

Yeah it’s probably good in theory but I think in a setup like this where people expect a certain amount of agency it’s hard to enforce. Also if the person townreads like, only 1 of 3 remaining options but passed it to that 1 before, etc.

Hmmmm...

Sensible exceptions?

[Vulture]

Fair to hope for, fearful people will misinterpret as senseless and use to push later on.

[Vulture]

Almost everything is subjective though, so meh.

[Enchant]

Fair to hope for, fearful people will misinterpret as senseless and use to push later on.

Fair.

If you was scum, who you would give baton? Your partner or townie?

[Vulture]

Scum. Low info state right now means it’s harder to be held accountable.

[Vulture]

Probably still later down the line too.

[DArby]

I don’t mind if I don’t get the baton BTW, I find this setup a lot more disengaging than I thought I would.

Honestly I feel part of it is the fact the numbers are so small and there’s only one baton (not to mention that the game has had low interest from the beginning. :c).

If there were more players, maybe a second baton, and a power role or 2 then I think this set up would get a lot more potential but that’s just me.

[Vulture]

I think the gimmick is the appeal mainly rather than adding more onto it but after playing something similar... eh. It just strips away elements like wagons, groupwork in favor of individual reads and power. It becomes boring but maybe it’ll perk up day 2.

[Enchant]

Scum. Low info state right now means it’s harder to be held accountable.

Same.

And i think mafia acts like that in this game.

[DArby]

Does that mean if scum flips d1 you’d want to push for whoever was the last to hand the baton?