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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 7:06 am

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oh I'm sorry
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 12:45 pm

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So, uh, I won the auction right
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 12:46 pm

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Election ends in 13min get those votes in
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 12:47 pm

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I do wish we had just two more players or so. How about a recruitment incentive in Nomic dollars
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 12:47 pm

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Perhaps one that decreases in value per player recruited or is gone altogether after the first few
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 1:13 pm

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In post 328, Deimos27 wrote:I do wish we had just two more players or so. How about a recruitment incentive in Nomic dollars
Too fucking bad. The last time something like that was suggested, it was shot down because the Nomic Bank would give out money, not new players.
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 1:18 pm

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Election 1 Results for the Nomic Central Bank Board of Directors:

The voter is listed across the top and their preferences are placed in the relevant location in the table.
PreferenceIrcherlendunistusPrince Jake, son of the 7th circleStrangerCougDeimos27
1st (5)StrangerCougIrcherStrangerCougNo submissionIrcher
2nd (3)Prince Jake, son of the 7th circleDeimos27lendunistusNo submissionStrangerCoug
3rd (1)Deimos27StrangerCougtrisNo submissionlendunistus

Thus, the vote totals are as follows:
CandidateVote Total
Ircher10
lendunistus4
Prince Jake, son of the 7th circle3
StrangerCoug14
Deimos274
tris1

Hence, StrangerCoug is our first head director, and Ircher has also been elected. We have a tie for 3rd place, so as stipulated in the rules, I get to break the tie. I will break the tie in favor of Deimos27, so your first Nomic Central Bank Board of Directors is as follows:

1. StrangerCoug (Head Director)
2. Ircher
3. Deimos27
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 1:34 pm

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Proposal 330 will expire in about an hour. We still have 337, 338, 339, and M005 pending as well.
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 1:39 pm

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In post 330, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 328, Deimos27 wrote:I do wish we had just two more players or so. How about a recruitment incentive in Nomic dollars
Too fucking bad. The last time something like that was suggested, it was shot down because the Nomic Bank would give out money, not new players.
As far as I could see everyone who shot it down did so for the same reason: an incentive is good but it shouldn't be points
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 1:42 pm

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It is interesting that since we cannot vote for ourselves, not voting provides a significant mathematical advantage
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 1:49 pm

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Ircher could've won if Coug gave them 1st preference, and the order between the other board members could also have been affected.

Since there was no legislation against it I nonetheless suppose that the results of this election must be considered legitimate.
I would however recommend that we amend the election rules before next time e.g. by requiring the submitting of a complete voting ballot for eligibility as a candidate.
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 1:52 pm

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I hereby establish the currency Knowledge Points. Its symbol is KP. An initial supply of 25'000 KP shall be printed.


pedit: While we are at it, we should also change it where you cannot vote for inactive players. I wouldn't necessarily invalidate ballots if a player goes inactive after the ballot is submitted, but if they are inactive at the time of submission, they shouldn't be a valid candidate.
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 1:58 pm

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I still think 330 is good but it's not indispensable if we are diligent about keeping track of how many vote coupons people have and make sure not to trade anyone too many at a time.
Can we get some ayes for 338 and 339 at least?
Perhaps from our esteemed chairman, Coug?
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 2:16 pm

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Sorry; kinda forgot about this game.

VOTE: Yea 338
VOTE: Yea 339
VOTE: Abstain M005
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 2:19 pm

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So the first order of business for the board is to decide how we are going to make decisions. We can do majority voting, but we don't necessarily have to. We also don't necessarily have to do the voting in this thread (though the voting must be documented on the wiki in some fashion). It's up to y'all as to what you think is best.

Also, 338 and 339 pass.
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 2:25 pm

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I hereby establish the currency Crowns. Its symbol is kr. An initial supply of 1 000 kr shall be printed.


I better get in on this.
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 2:28 pm

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Intuitively I'd like making decisions elsewhere to keep this thread streamlined on legislation but I also appreciate that it decreases transparency and might be less convenient than having everything related to the game in the same place.
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 2:31 pm

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I'd say formal voting is unnecessary if we get verbal consensus from everyone, and in general we should aim for such consensus first and use formal majority voting as a last resort.
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 2:44 pm

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In post 335, Deimos27 wrote:I would however recommend that we amend the election rules before next time e.g. by requiring the submitting of a complete voting ballot for eligibility as a candidate.
Why?
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 2:51 pm

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I refer you to the rest of that post as well as the one directly prior
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 2:53 pm

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Currently there is a perverse incentive not to vote because it increases your probability of winning
(when you don't vote you lose nothing because you cannot vote for yourself, but other people lose out on the points from your vote and may still vote for
you
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 2:56 pm

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It is hard to judge an election as fair when the winner is the only one who does not vote, especially when with their vote someone else might have won
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:00 pm

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Every player that could vote for SC did, while not every player who could vote for Ircher did (aside from SC)

Moreover, I don't particularly think that incentivizing players to become intentionally polarized is a good idea, when the alternative is losing power in the game.
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:08 pm

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I don't understand what the relevance of the first fact you stated is
I also don't understand in what sense it is incentivising players to "become polarised" or what the downside in that is supposed to be
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:09 pm

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The goal of the election is to establish what the collective group preference is. When someone does not participate it hinders that goal
and
unfairly furthers that individual's electoral prospects

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