Mini 2251: Triplicate! GAME OVER!

[RCEnigma]

Now that I say it like that though, demon lord is in the mini theme and not the normal so could possibly be 3p.

[Almost50]

I saw it--I don't care.

The demon lord did not surprise!-lolhammer you.

As that's the optimal play for an obviously scum role, that means any other usage of it is suboptimal.

In fact, the usage of it on you is actually damning for you.

If the scum wanted to use the Demon Lord to kill a town player, they should've waited until a town player was at L-1 and used the demon lord then.

Using it before a player is at L-1 thus means that scum are instead opting to let the town know about it--and by having it vote you, that's wifom to dissuade people from voting you.

In other words: the vote on you from the demon lord is actually proof that you're scum.

I didn't even notice the VC on game 2 until now. I always assumed both games had the same vote count and that looking at the leading wagon on the top one was sufficient.

So, this Demon Lord.. is it and "additional" vote? Like, it effectively makes a player "hated"? I ask because you both seem familiar with it, and I wasn't at the first iteration.

P.S. Question open for all to answer. I just want to know it's a "factional" ability, or if it's controlled by a single player.

[MegAzumarill]

mastina is demon lord

Likely personal

[Almost50]

Love getting cursed at for... winning

Me too. Now why didn't we eliminate AMY to satisfy mastina? We could have also eliminated mastina next, and T3 could have swept the game still.

Imagine someone telling you they've earned the right to be smug because you caught 3/4 scums (2 of them on page 2 no less) and then telling you to follow their reads without them explaining what the hell they're talking about.

By my count (i.e. from my own PoV) I, you & Ircher should be appointed "Town Council of Leaders" and take turn in trying to hunt scum in both games.

[Dunnstral]

I saw it--I don't care.

The demon lord did not surprise!-lolhammer you.

As that's the optimal play for an obviously scum role, that means any other usage of it is suboptimal.

In fact, the usage of it on you is actually damning for you.

If the scum wanted to use the Demon Lord to kill a town player, they should've waited until a town player was at L-1 and used the demon lord then.

Using it before a player is at L-1 thus means that scum are instead opting to let the town know about it--and by having it vote you, that's wifom to dissuade people from voting you.

In other words: the vote on you from the demon lord is actually proof that you're scum.

I didn't even notice the VC on game 2 until now. I always assumed both games had the same vote count and that looking at the leading wagon on the top one was sufficient.

So, this Demon Lord.. is it and "additional" vote? Like, it effectively makes a player "hated"? I ask because you both seem familiar with it, and I wasn't at the first iteration.

P.S. Question open for all to answer. I just want to know it's a "factional" ability, or if it's controlled by a single player.

Why is mastina assuming that it is a scum ability?

[RCEnigma]

Oh Interesting I didn't even think of it as a modifier I was just thinking it was an anon vote ability.

[Lady Chloe]

It occurs to me that I'm either directly or indirectly responsible for the majority of town deaths Game 3 including my own.

I truly do not know how to reverse that for the next 2 games.

[Lady Chloe]

No matter, justice will be mine to make reality.

[Lady Chloe]

RCEnigma, only mastina has stated that I am pure in all games.

Do you think her stance is informed or uninformed?

[Almost50]

I'm super offended that A50 considers my reads worse than Irchers </3. Go eat a fat banana.

Ircher vote House first. He also put T3 as a leading lim in his final solve for the last Scum. You -on the other hand- were sound asleep I almost exclaimed in public where you were, but I didn't because it could have shaded you and I didn't want to deal with THAT (it was easier with Dwlee because he knows how to save himself, and he was the one who planned it tbh honest and I just played along)

[Almost50]

Oh I'm surprised by that as well. I wouldn't place too much confidence in my reads.

Thanks for the boost of confidence.

OK.. Dwlee it is then.. although I am not as confident he is Town in both games (but maybe it's due to my paranoia as Dwlee did pull a few over me)

[Lady Chloe]

Words come to mind at reading "fat banana" but they aren't Ladylike.

[RCEnigma]

RCEnigma, only mastina has stated that I am pure in all games.

Do you think her stance is informed or uninformed?

Err I think that's more of a question you have to answer yourself because I don't know your history.

I came to that conclusion being uninformed so it isn't a stretch to say town!Mastina could as well. But you and I don't have history playing together. I don't know how Mastina approaches reading you as either alignment if it's attempted pocketing you're worried about

[Almost50]

Nah, there's some useful stuff in the earlier set of that range (20-25).

I'd appreciate it if you pointed them out. Thanks

[Lady Chloe]

That's precisely why I ask you.

Forget the history I have with mastina, I won't pretend to read her well enough to discern the motive so quickly.

[Almost50]

Rr town

Where did this come from?

[Lady Chloe]

P.S. Question open for all to answer. I just want to know it's a "factional" ability, or if it's controlled by a single player.

I didn't even register "demon lord" as a mechanic until reviewing the VC a few minutes ago.

[Jingle]

2. This is a game for fun. Act like it.

Reminder: This is a rule. I know feelings can run hot, but please treat each other kindly and direct any rage at the true villain of the thread. Bingle. Fuck that guy.

That is all.

[Almost50]

Why is mastina assuming that it is a scum ability?

Probably because it's a DEMON?? I dunno.. I just took it for granted. Also Meg was the one that suggested Demon Lord voting her should suggest she is Town.

[RCEnigma]

I don't think I can read Mastina off of that specifically. I do think she has an agenda influencing how she's reading specific slots but It becomes more apparent with more information.

I don't think she's scum in multiple games so overall not fully informed. She's making a guess in at least 1 game of your alignment. Well two including game 3.

[Amy Dunne]

Hello

Another slot I will be watching out for.

lowkey want to ask how you read Meg now, but if I myself am not efforting then I guess it wouldn't be fair to ask.

OK, consider it an optional question for you to respond to.

I’m not sure yet but if she obvtowns it, I’ll see it. So far, I’m not.

[Amy Dunne]

VOTE: HouseI don’t like this response.

Also Amy is not scum with House in the remaining 2 games.

Now the reason why I didn't consider this in game 3 is Ircher had a free choice of 4 names (2 of them were Town) and opted to pick one of the scum to start the wagon. Amy joining the wagon is not as strong an indicator since her choosing another wagon would have been sus if she was scum in game 3, but she could have also avoided voting at this time if she was scum with House elsewhere.

Don't mind me, I'm just being me.

Yeah, that should have been obvious to everyone that we weren’t buddies in that.

[Lady Chloe]

Mastina is either very insightful on me or the opposite.

At the very least, their blistering indignation at others disagreeing with reads is a distraction from understanding her thoroughly.

[Amy Dunne]

Spoiler: Important Links

Rules - Current Vote Count - Masons and Mafia PT - Mod Thread - Mafia Thread (Normal)

Last link says not authorized

Just highlighting something I am confuzzled about. Like, why would Town!Dunn even try to click the Mafia link and expect to be authorized? yet again, why would Scum!Dunn say that in paublic?

He did it in ELSM too.

[Almost50]

Words come to mind at reading "fat banana" but they aren't Ladylike.

Me and Cheeky can turn this into a real circus if we didn't practice self-constraint to stay disciplined.