Open 836: Pick Your Poison (Game Over)

[Sleepless Assassin]

I mean we are but i dont think that's great reasoning for it

~ skitter

His buddy has to know he's going down and probably doesn't want to risk associatives as the lone remaining scum.

[Fun and Games]

Enchant isnt the sort of player to utilize 'reverse psychology' as scum. Like your reasoning makes some level of sense if he's the sort of player to think out his every play but that's not how he's playing. He's impulsive and troll-y. That's exactly the sort of player that lolclaims scum

And i think its really silly to suggest that he saw gamma get into trouble for playing that way and then *choosing to play that way* anyways, just why

Also i've actually seen scum-enchant play, and he took the game rather seriously and less troll-y than he's doung here

@ vp

~ skitter

[Toogeloo]

Scum is much more likely to claim scum than town is

I actually disagree with this premise, and think the opposite. Why do u think this?

~ skitter

Scum will absolutely give the town the finger in the face of a conflicted lynch and claim Mafia, daring people to flip them or wifom them into another direction. The only way claiming scum isn't playing against your win in is if you are actually scum.

[Fun and Games]

I mean we are but i dont think that's great reasoning for it

~ skitter

His buddy has to know he's going down and probably doesn't want to risk associatives as the lone remaining scum.

This also assumes enchant-scum whicu in my mind is relatively likely to be a faulty assumption

~ skitter

[Fun and Games]

Scum is much more likely to claim scum than town is

I actually disagree with this premise, and think the opposite. Why do u think this?

~ skitter

Scum will absolutely give the town the finger in the face of a conflicted lynch and claim Mafia, daring people to flip them or wifom them into another direction. The only way claiming scum isn't playing against your win in is if you are actually scum.

Why on earth does he just note egg on the vp/us fight instead of doing this ...

~ skitter

[Toogeloo]

If Enchant wants to game throw as town or scum, they claim Mafia. The only difference is the wifom benefit from scum perspective.

[Toogeloo]

I don't give a shit why Enchant does what Enchant does. My reason for being on them isn't even relevant to their gameplay.

[Sleepless Assassin]

I mean we are but i dont think that's great reasoning for it

~ skitter

His buddy has to know he's going down and probably doesn't want to risk associatives as the lone remaining scum.

This also assumes enchant-scum whicu in my mind is relatively likely to be a faulty assumption

~ skitter

I'm not assuming. He already told us he's scum

[Fun and Games]

I mean you're assuming that's a true statement

~ skitter

[Sleepless Assassin]

I mean you're assuming that's a true statement

~ skitter

I still don't see why he'd lie

[Toogeloo]

Lynch all liars.... Duh.

[Fun and Games]

I cant imagine why he would truthfully claim such a thing either

~ skitter

[Toogeloo]

Win/win

[Enchant]

I am not mafia.

I noticed pattern, where regardless of argumentation, i made up Guilty.

I am scum because i didn't talk with DArby.
I am scum because i hammered DArby.
I am scum because i hammered Gamma (well it's kinda bad i acknowlidge that)
*Insert any action performed by me and VP WILL call this scum action, as well as SP.*

It's impossible to have only one color (unless do it very on purpose).
But VP and SM can only notice bad actions, they simple don't consider or fail to see any town evidence on me.

They don't want to kill scum, they want to KILL ME.

[VP Baltar]

town evidence on me.

What's the town evidence on you?

[Dwlee99]

Main reason has been Pooky jumping on me for voting enchant

The push reasoning was when I was just getting the vibe from the push and I think pooky removed/ignored context to paint VP scum with associatives

Ok, a few followups:

- why is bad that pooky was pushing you for voting enchant
- i basically feel like vp is doing exactly what you're accusing pooky of: removing context in order to further a narrative
- remind me: if we're bussing vp why cant you help us do that again?

~ skitter

1.) It was chainsaw
2.) With what?
3.) Probability you're scum and vp is scum is less than probability you're scum

[Dwlee99]

Pooky, multiple times throughout your fight with VP he pointed out ways he thought you ignored context in much of your case

Do you have any thoughts on that

Is it unreasonable for me to think VP is right

Ok multiple times throughout my fight with vp i pointed out ways i thought he ignored context in much of my case

Do u have any thoughts on that?

~ skitter

I thought VP's argument was better

[Dwlee99]

Enchant isnt the sort of player to utilize 'reverse psychology' as scum. Like your reasoning makes some level of sense if he's the sort of player to think out his every play but that's not how he's playing. He's impulsive and troll-y. That's exactly the sort of player that lolclaims scum

And i think its really silly to suggest that he saw gamma get into trouble for playing that way and then *choosing to play that way* anyways, just why

Also i've actually seen scum-enchant play, and he took the game rather seriously and less troll-y than he's doung here

@ vp

~ skitter

Metabadmetabadmetabad

I swear every time someone goes "<player> does(n't) do X as <alignment>" not only is meta already bad, I have an example where the opposite is true

White flag mafia Enchant hammered his scum buddy super "lol"y, something Pooky should remember given he lost in ELO by thinking Enchant was town

[Fun and Games]

1. Chainsaw of enchant? So you're positing that we're scum with enchant?
2. He's repeatedly putting words in my mouth and reframing what i'm saying in the worst possible light. He did ghe former 20 minutes ago on the prior page, for example
3. I thought the whole premise of ur issue with our vp push is that we look like we're bussing him

~ skitter

[Dwlee99]

Hydra read: town!Pooky/skitter would have had that conversation

[Fun and Games]

Metabadmetabadmetabad

That's a very side point and you're ignoring the core of my argument, ty

~ skitter

[Enchant]

town evidence on me.

What's the town evidence on you?

"Prove you are town"

MY ROLE IS GREEN

[Enchant]

Like really, there's almost zero mafia motivation in all my moves.

Unless i am superbusseridiot.

[Fun and Games]

Hydra read: town!Pooky/skitter would have had that conversation

We didnt, and we're town, and I imagine id i were scum with enchant someone would have pointed that out to me before i start defending him

~ skitter

[Fun and Games]

White flag mafia Enchant hammered his scum buddy super "lol"y, something Pooky should remember given he lost in ELO by thinking Enchant was town

i spent most of wfm saying enchant was scum and nobody listened to me

i changed my mind at elo because my subconcious trolled me with a dream about a talking dolphin

at no point did i think enchant was town cuz he lol hammered a teammate