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[Galron]

hi

galron

its midnight where im at and im eating a grilled cheese sandwich with cayenne pepper in it

<3

its def a friday night... or a very, very early saturday morning

That's my grilled cheese! I use jalapenos. I'm in a hotel room in Indianapolis with a chipotle chalupa and MILD sauce. They complete flakes on the fire sauce.

[Taly]

haha nice and tasty have fun!

i like my food just how i like my men - spicy

[Taly]

muahahahahaahaha-

*coughs*

me sleepy

[CheekyTeeky]

It seems like it can be basically precisely that actually.

It's not certain.

But it's very likely.

Fine I'm not going to take the thread hostage to prevent you from outguessing the mod. I'll have a rethink.
UNVOTE:

If you prefer investigative roles why did you submit mason?

[Titus]

Cheeky naturally TRs Meg for "standing up to scum" (that also ignores the remote S v S possibility that the fight is staged to give Meg something to talk about).

I don't know why you presume to understand my reads. I townread both Meg and Enchant from page 1 because contrary to popular belief, the way someone enters the game can be ai. I do not and never have townread someone simply for scumreading the same slot as me.

I absolutely agree that how someone enters the thread can be AI. If you look at the last dance game, I had literally almost perfect reads by the time I died. I had one town/scum wrong. There's certain things that can be AI. Certain tones that are scummy.

I think you believe that you're townreading Meg for that reason, but there's no scumhunting in Meg's entry and thus no basis for a townread there. I feel you're projecting a reason to townread Meg rather than actually having one. I think you're acting in good faith but succumbing to cognitive biases.

[Titus]

Also, if I don't see action from certain slots while I'm gone tomorrow, I'm going to get very annoyed.

[CheekyTeeky]

It's a tone read as I mentioned earlier. I'm also aware that meg is often LHF mislim in games so I'd rather not atp.

[ɀefiend]

I can't find "LHF" acronym anywhere on the wiki, someone help me out.

mastina's logic does have some elements of WIFOM sprinkled throughout, but I like it overall. I would like to say though, if I rolled scum and we had day chat and I knew we'd have to claim preferences, I would think that each of us claiming something different from {scum, town, neither, refuse} would throw the whole damn thing mastina is doing off course.

I am someone who cares a lot about setup mech and if I noticed mastina was trying to sneak something by, I would speak up -- but it all looks on the level to me. That doesn't mean I agree with 100% of the evaluation, just that the attempt at solving looks honest.

I am also of the opinion that when Town is on the right track regarding setup/mech solving, scum tend to get defensive (for good reason).

I've played scum with mastina and I don't think this is it. Wouldn't bet my life on it, though.

I've also played scum with Titus and I don't have a read yet.

Everyone else, I have no meta with. Sorry to disappoint.

[Greeting]

i like my food just how i like my men - spicy

I haven't yet found scum but I found a fellow sis!

[CheekyTeeky]

I can't find "LHF" acronym anywhere on the wiki, someone help me out.

LHF = low hanging fruit

Basically mislim bait.

[Flea The Magician]

The logic is mechanically sound.

No it absolutely is not.

I would fully openwolf this game and trueclaim because of this thinking.

[Flea The Magician]

Spoiler: Quote Wall

Well, what reads do you disagree with?

I'm more curious about how my vote is an easy vote to make than being wilfully disected currently.

You're contesting the PoE off the basis that you're in it and not digressing into why the solve lacks conviction or has potential fallacies to it.

Hence why I prompted you to voice any discontent because I can't tell your alignment based off your current reply other than I disagree with your take on

mastina's

intentions.

VOTE: mastina

Well that was easy.
Mastina knows my scum game, and knows I thrive more on scum because I actually find it easier to make reads as scum. I also have a pretty comprehensive wiki, which miraculously seems to have been forgotten about.

My scum games do such admittedly, but it's no secret I play for fun over form.

I'm also strong mislim bait because of my erratic behaviour and thought patterns.. the PoE seems too convenient to me and the reasoning lacks her usual convictions.

The PoE is irrelevant. She's gone to some lengths to gather meta on people and generate reads.

House I think has stated his town/scum preference before, but I sadly can't remember it and he has no real wiki so I have to keep him in the pool for now until I track it down.

Ditto for Flea; fae might've stated faer preference but I can't remember it.

This is my staging point against this. Mastinas seen me at my best and worst of both alignments, and has no difficulty in reading me. If I can't pocket her, I nk her.
Going back to the post, to me this reads as Me and House may have stated preference, but don't have wiki's to check what we're like.

Go look at my wiki, I'll wait a moment.... Flea The Magician if you need the link...
It's pretty comprehensive. I need to add a couple games and clean up a little but still. There's more than enough there to work with.

Spoiler: Notes

TOWN

PREFERENCE:

mastina

House
Scorpious
Yume
Greeting
Flea the Magician
CheekyTeeky (after much resistance)
ɀefiend

NO ALIGNMENT PREFERENCE:

Taly
Titus
Galron

SCUM

PREFERENCE:

Enchant? (Not sure if serious)

PREFERENCE NOT YET STATED:

MegAzumarill

Same post, ftr. Mine and House's alignment preferences are there.

So sadly, that doesn't narrow the pool down as much as I want, but it still helps as a starting point.

It's a false start imo, and one setting up to secure the usual suspects for elimination, I know House also tends to be limbait.
The PoE is flawed. But hey lets address it based on what we have so far.
I believe this would be considered the equivilent of pissing into the wind.

If I had to go gun to my head, I'd say that in {Yume, Flea, House}, towniest to scummiest it'd be House > Yume > Flea.

This is funny. I made 4 posts, 2 RVS votes, one projecting doubt on the logic that was coming, and my claims.
Yume has 1 post, and it's their claims.
House has several and is being themselves, he's laid back and doesn't seem to be taking this seriously.
So we're left with this.

All 3 scum are in {CheekyTeeky, MegAzumarill, House, Yume, Flea the Magician};
CheekyTeeky and MegAzumarill have a high chance of being scum;
House is less likely scum;
There's 1-2 scum in {Yume, Flea the Magician};
There's basically a guaranteed scum, 1-2, in {CheekyTeeky, MegAzumarill}.

We have a PoE of 4, early D1, from a mechsolve attempt in a uPick where we don't know if someones lying or not.
Me, who has said from the start this is all subject to wifom and hasn't taken this seriously but gone with it anyway.
Yume the One-Post-Wonder
Azu who I haven't read
CT who seems to be quite into the game and sits just above null with me currently.

I struggle to make reads beyond the snap reads I can be pretty decent with. I'm confident in this one.

I'm going to be honest this post feels pretty fluffy

You're only giving reasons to doubt

Mastina's

PoE, it's hard to tell how you actually read her people in it or not in it...

And I am weary that you're deflecting from 194

Two things here.
That would infer there's any substance to mastinas reads, there is not. There is mechanical reads subject to wifom which means I disagree with all of them.

I said I struggle to read people D1, beyond any snap reads that I get.

Instead say what you mean and ask for a reads list. To which the answer will "I started refusing those requests a while ago."

[Flea The Magician]

Dangit. I always break it.

[Taly]

Mmm. This won't do.

I'm trying to be scummy AF but this game is moving 10 spaces less quick and spicy for me

So soon Imma MOVE & SHAKE and y'all aren't going to be prepared for that

[Enchant]

Imo that's reason why submitting alignments are bad.

Mastina is locktown simple because there's someone else submitted to be maf, and she is not looking liking playing as maf. That's it.

[Taly]

i like my food just how i like my men - spicy

I haven't yet found scum but I found a fellow sis!

[Greeting]

Anyway, I'm not at all sold either on

mastina

being scum for her list and I don't think her flawed reasoning is scum indicative tbf. And this seems to be the most significant thing going on. The other being, well, the leading wagon, which I'm also on.

What's the deal with

MegAzumarill

? Their activity has died down recently. My vote on them is an RVS vote and still kinda is tbf.

Is the case just the fact that they're scumreading

mastina

? Or is it an RVS which people have seemed to just jump on without reflecting? I'm actually baffled and confused on how did they find themselves at E-3 at this particular moment?

mastina

seems to believe it's due to her

findings

, so I'll just leave it at that.

@

Titus

, @

House

can you elaborate more?

[MegAzumarill]

The case is mastina is usually pretty thourough and accurate with mechanical stuff, yet is using pretty blatant assumptions rather than mechanics to create a POE that I don't think is accurate. It has obviously been thought about at length but yet is so flimsy and is being presented at concrete. That is why I believe it's likely from scum as an attempt to easily put townies up for lim and look townie

[Enchant]

The case is mastina is usually pretty thourough and accurate with mechanical stuff, yet is using pretty blatant assumptions rather than mechanics to create a POE that I don't think is accurate. It has obviously been thought about at length but yet is so flimsy and is being presented at concrete. That is why I believe it's likely from scum as an attempt to easily put townies up for lim and look townie

Ok

Where is your poe

[MegAzumarill]

Mastina, Mastina, Mastina

Ez

[Enchant]

Damn Mastina got all three scum slots.

[MegAzumarill]

In seriousness this game has had a lot of talk about preferences which is not AI and actually thinking the game is solved at this point is laughable

[Enchant]

I actually agree with this statement.

Do you think Mastina made scum preference?

[House]

The case is mastina is usually pretty thourough and accurate with mechanical stuff, yet is using pretty blatant assumptions rather than mechanics to create a POE that I don't think is accurate. It has obviously been thought about at length but yet is so flimsy and is being presented at concrete. That is why I believe it's likely from scum as an attempt to easily put townies up for lim and look townie

Hi there, Betelgeuse.

[MegAzumarill]

I actually agree with this statement.

Do you think Mastina made scum preference?

Don't know