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Post Post #3300 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:37 am

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Lack of quickhammer isn't actually applicable because a slot is being replaced. (Except if that slot is the one not being quickhammered)

Still wanna vote the Koba slot though
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Post Post #3301 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:55 pm

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Also why would a lack of quickhammer implicate Koba? It would imply they're wrong, and town can be wrong.
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Post Post #3302 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:56 pm

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If town votes town theoretically all 3 mafia can vote and game is over
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Post Post #3303 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:18 pm

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In post 3300, MegAzumarill wrote:Lack of quickhammer isn't actually applicable because a slot is being replaced. (Except if that slot is the one not being quickhammered)

Still wanna vote the Koba slot though
Why Koba over Numbers or Looker?
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Post Post #3304 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:21 pm

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Not sure on numbers/you and Looker was the Alyssa slot which was pretty solidly townie and I don't dislike their content here
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Post Post #3305 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:23 pm

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In post 3296, numberQ wrote:The anger is coming from your extreme arrogance. You accuse me of ignoring things or not reading, but then you put words in my mouth and ignore things I've said.

I answered your question about scum being on the jester wagon here, with the caveat that the question itself is leading and slippery. I do think there was scum on it, because I think you are scum. But I do NOT think there
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to be scum on it. In other words, I disagree with your reasoning that an all town wagon was unlikely. I'm saying I have other reasons to scumread you, it has little if anything to do with the wagon itself. I don't know how many different ways I can explain this.
In post 3294, MathBlade wrote:You’re expressing frustration over being “caught for the wrong reasons” or moon logic.

Your post here with the anger tells me you’re not reading.
Is there a point to posts like this beyond provoking an emotional reaction out of me? You're literally just making up reasons for me being frustrated while completely disregarding what I'm saying.
In post 3295, MathBlade wrote:Who do you think is scum out of Meg and Koba Numbers?
More likely Meg, but I feel like I always scumread Meg in every game. Koba/Voyc haven't given me many scum vibes though.
Except this still isn’t an explanation.
This is the same logical contradiction. Just with anger on it.

You can’t argue I am both scum and no scum on the wagon.
So if you think I am scum then there has to be scum on the wagon, as it would be me.

If you argue no scum you again dodged the question of what scum would be doing.
At this point it’s no longer productive to keep engaging as I don’t believe this is in good faith.

You should be able to follow the yes no map based on knowing you then do what is asked.

Imho Numbers and Looker are both scum and almost nothing will change my mind.
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Post Post #3306 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:24 pm

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In post 3304, MegAzumarill wrote:Not sure on numbers/you and Looker was the Alyssa slot which was pretty solidly townie and I don't dislike their content here
You don’t dislike Looker’s possible scumslip?
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Post Post #3307 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:26 pm

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...? Is this real?
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Post Post #3308 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:26 pm

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I thought that was a joke if you are talking about the sandwich thing
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Post Post #3309 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:28 pm

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The arguement of whether there was scum on the Jester wagon that numberq is arguing is that there doesn't have to be scum on the Jester wagon necessarily. If there is it is coincidental. At least that's how I read it and it seems like that is his point
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Post Post #3310 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:28 pm

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Doesnt seem like it to me? Koba brought it up and it is a pretty valid point.

Why did you bring up a sandwich randomly?
It’s not a crumb as we are all vanilla.
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Post Post #3311 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:29 pm

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In post 3309, MegAzumarill wrote:The arguement of whether there was scum on the Jester wagon that numberq is arguing is that there doesn't have to be scum on the Jester wagon necessarily. If there is it is coincidental. At least that's how I read it and it seems like that is his point
And as I said earlier in my prior arguments that is a possibility logically but it’s very remote and asked if Numbers was pitching that world what scum were doing.
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Post Post #3312 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:29 pm

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A point Numbers has ignored 3-4 times now
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Post Post #3313 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:29 pm

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Sandwiches have many crumbs
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Post Post #3314 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:30 pm

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You beat me to it
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Post Post #3315 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:31 pm

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At some point I have to guess and I take the 90% shot Numbers is scum every time here.
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Post Post #3316 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:31 pm

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Math you miss that literally every player would have voted jester there.
The ones that did were the ones that voted first up until it would've been E-1
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Post Post #3317 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:32 pm

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And I'll tell you, but you won't believe me.

I recently dove headfirst into veganism and it's fucking me up (I'm quitting btw), so my brain has just been on food and I found that phrase about sandwiches funny. I've also been lightheaded and kind of delirious for the past few days so maybe that was the onset. Also, DkKoba (as potential scum) telling me that I only had one scum correct (while they were in the scumpool) was something I found funny as well, so I tried to keep in the same vein. I had no idea people would positively POUNCE on it lol.
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Post Post #3318 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:33 pm

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But that's what desperate scum do.
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Post Post #3319 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:33 pm

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In post 3316, MegAzumarill wrote:Math you miss that literally every player would have voted jester there.
The ones that did were the ones that voted first up until it would've been E-1
Correct. This gives scum a place to hide.
If scum didn’t take the place to hide that gives them a massive boost of removing the have to have two scum alive what were they doing?
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Post Post #3320 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:34 pm

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So no it follows scum were on the jester wagon. There would be no other wagon they’d want more so at least one scum has to be on it, and it’s Numbers.
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Post Post #3321 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:37 pm

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I don't think you're gonna end up convincing anyone that doesn't already think that way with that arguement so I'd suggest you still drop it.

Use it as a reason to scumread numberQ, sure. But try to build a case beside it
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Post Post #3322 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:45 pm

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In post 3321, MegAzumarill wrote:I don't think you're gonna end up convincing anyone that doesn't already think that way with that arguement so I'd suggest you still drop it.

Use it as a reason to scumread numberQ, sure. But try to build a case beside it
That’s the beauty of it.
Harley Quinn saw it and I have faith the replacement will too.

It doesn’t get much simpler than scum are on that wagon.
If you can’t provide a better theory than what is 90% likely then I just don’t care.

We only have one elim today and I have 1 if not 2 scum.
That’s all that we can do today.
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Post Post #3323 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:46 pm

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Either you or Koba are the likely last scum with Numbers and Looker.
So I am not aiming to convince scum, I am aiming to convince town.
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Post Post #3324 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:48 pm

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Why do you think Looker is scum again?
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