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Scorpious (3): Dwlee99, House, Greeting

[E-3]

Dwlee99 (1): mastina
Titus (1): Enchant

Not Voting (5): Galron, Taly, Titus, ɀefiend, Scorpious

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to achieve an eliminaton.

Day 3 will end in (expired on 2022-01-31 14:55:00).

[ɀefiend]

Everybody sucks right now.

Literally nobody cares that the Flea power wagon was terrible. Everybody is talking roles, spec, leashing, mechanics. It is very easy for scum to blend in there.

Basically nobody is purely scumhunting.

I'm too lazy to do it myself.

Taly, I'll get back to you later with some scattered thoughts, but honestly it's all pretty shallow and pessimistic.

[House]

Literally nobody cares that the Flea power wagon was terrible.

I miss voting for flea. Can we do it again?

[House]

I have to wake up stupid early tomorrow because I have a super long day, so I'm heading to bed.

G'night.

[Galron]

Dwlee and scorpious, what is this last game you two refer to, and what is its applicability here?

[Galron]

Everybody sucks right now.

Literally nobody cares that the Flea power wagon was terrible. Everybody is talking roles, spec, leashing, mechanics. It is very easy for scum to blend in there.

Basically nobody is purely scumhunting.

I'm too lazy to do it myself.

Taly, I'll get back to you later with some scattered thoughts, but honestly it's all pretty shallow and pessimistic.

1. true
2. false
3. some people are town hunting
4. true
5. maybe

[Dwlee99]

Dwlee and scorpious, what is this last game you two refer to, and what is its applicability here?

It's why I scumread scorpius. He just ate'd when under pressure and did this same exact posting style. I said that D1 weary

[Galron]

Did Scorp claim vig? Why hasn't he used that yet if so?

It takes discipline to holster that shot. The smarter play is to hold on to it until you have better reads.

[Galron]

Dwlee and scorpious, what is this last game you two refer to, and what is its applicability here?

It's why I scumread scorpius. He just ate'd when under pressure and did this same exact posting style. I said that D1 weary

With no NK why should we disbelieve his claim other than your meta ate read?

[Galron]

If we're going to kill a claimed PR we oughtta have a good reason to do it.

[Dwlee99]

Because zefiend jailed him and no kill happened + he claimed parts of his role that weren't there earlier including a watcher, a strong power role that is only balanced if scum have some sort of ninja, and that he claimed to use on house not zefiend, a claimed PR.

[Galron]

Why did you try to watch house?

Couldn't breathe and right leg paralysis.

[Galron]

It's scum indicative for mastina who is meticulous in her mech reasoning. We just finished a game where she had the whole scumteam in her mech spec based on her knowledge of normals. Luckily she didn't back herself and went with her play reads instead so she didn't catch scum!me.

Another piece of evidence towards scumstina is her read on me from the outset, and her reads on flea and Mega. Her PoE seems hamfisted and intentional in it's positioning as opposed to the elegant convincing posts that may be wrong but are usually logically correct.

100% disagree on mastina's mech being spot on. I think mastina skews balance towards town. I don’t agree with her reasoning half the time but I strongly feel this is town mastina and you're BoPing her.

Titus I know you've got that trial, but I'm interested in knowing whether you still think Cheeky was BoPing mastina here.

[Galron]

225 is a very good post as I read it again, maybe because it backs up what I've been feeling.

It's scum indicative for mastina who is meticulous in her mech reasoning. We just finished a game where she had the whole scumteam in her mech spec based on her knowledge of normals. Luckily she didn't back herself and went with her play reads instead so she didn't catch scum!me.

Another piece of evidence towards scumstina is her read on me from the outset, and her reads on flea and Mega. Her PoE seems hamfisted and intentional in it's positioning as opposed to the elegant convincing posts that may be wrong but are usually logically correct.

Hamfisted and intentional are good adjectives here. The only thing wrong is that it's not logically correct.

[Galron]

Couldn't have said it better myself.

You agreed with Titus on Cheeky BoPing mastina. Do you still think that?

[Galron]

100% disagree on mastina's mech being spot on. I think mastina skews balance towards town. I don’t agree with her reasoning half the time but I strongly feel this is town mastina and you're BoPing her.

How do you explain away her half baked read of Flea who has given evidence contrary to her asserting fae had insufficient meta to make a judgement call on fae's alignment preference. This has nothing to do with BoP because it's not about read accuracy. It's about the intent and effort mastina is putting into the game.

If you want me to consider elsewhere please explain to me why meg is scum as I feel this is town meg.

I'll also point out that mastina has recently lost two games against scum!me so she should know this is not my scumgame, otherwise she'd be townreading me ^.^

These are useful as well.

[Galron]

The case is mastina is usually pretty thourough and accurate with mechanical stuff, yet is using pretty blatant assumptions rather than mechanics to create a POE that I don't think is accurate. It has obviously been thought about at length but yet is so flimsy and is being presented at concrete. That is why I believe it's likely from scum as an attempt to easily put townies up for lim and look townie

This, too, echoes what I've said.

[Galron]

Aw ^.^

I also townread zefiend so I have

Galron
House
Taly
Scorp

Which doesn't feel right. Like at best 2/3. Hmm.

Cheeky dropped mastina & I'm not sure why.

[Galron]

VOTE: scorpious

[Taly]

My

Taly

senses are tingling and that

Galron

doesn't push this much as scum regardless of

Scorp's

alignment.

Yes I think

mastina

has been BoP'd pretty hard this game. Now, I wonder how

Titus

came to this conclusion in retrospect.

zefiend

, who could be scum blending in mech talk?

Titus

I'm kind of out of scumhunting mode tbh, it's the only thing that's helping me trust the initial townbloc.

I say this because I think

Titus/mastina/Galron/House/Enchant

all lean town but there is so much dissonance among these players on players like

Dwlee/Scorp

and each other that I wonder if it's AI and I'm failing to see the details.

[Taly]

And ngl like everybody but

Galron/Enchant/Greeting/(House?)

could theoretically qualify as scum misting me via buddying or vibing

So the range at which I see an error in my reads is larger than I'd like for literally a near 33% chance to hit scum here.

[Taly]

Is

zefiend/Scorp

S/S implausible?

[Taly]

Yeah this game is probably easier than we are making it.

[Scorpious]

Not entirely sure what’s so scummy about my role.

Surely all this big brained thinking can find some way to use what I have available instead of throwing me away..

This is a weird reaction by everyone. We haven’t hit any scum yet. Why not try something different ? I still have a big shot.

Tell me what to do with it.

[Taly]

I say this because I think Titus/mastina/Galron/House/Enchant all lean town but there is so much dissonance among these players on players like Dwlee/Scorp and each other that I wonder if it's AI and I'm failing to see the details.

This turns my personal solve into

Dwlee/Scorp/zefiend

which seems almost like wishful thinking lol and somewhat contradicts my earlier assessment that

Dwlee/Scorp

have hellbussed from little provocation.

But where do I reassess?