Micro 1043: League of Legends UPick - Game Over!

[.Caitlyn.]

Attack: Gragas

Ashe probtown

[.Warwick.]

New Ashe, I townread your previous slot.

You don't really explain why you are attacking me. Could you elaborate on your read of me?

[.Amumu.]

New Ashe, I townread your previous slot.

You don't really explain why you are attacking me. Could you elaborate on your read of me?

this reads kinda like you are saying that you townreading her means she shouldn't attack you. hmmmmm

[.Warwick.]

It is not saying that. I am town and I believe Ashe is town; I think we should focus our efforts on attacking scum if we are town.

I think it is valid to ask why I am being attack, especially since it seems I am constantly being attacked without people trying to sort me.

[.Gragas.]

ignoring how people have responded so far, though, he does not seem like the typical low hanging fruit to me

Yeah, I don't think Jarvan would let himself go down so easily without a good reason.

I do not have much to go off of, but from the first page I believe

Caitlyn

and

Elise

to be allies.

What?? Caitlyn did a naked attack

only

on page one, how does that make you believe shes more likely to be an ally? That seems like a bit much.

I weakly suspect

Warwick

is an enemy, but if so, I cannot determine who, if any, of

Amumu

,

Gragas

, or

Lulu

would be partners from there.

Oh yeah, I'm his partner.

The second page adds

Gragas

suspicion,

What about my posts there make you suspicious of me?

I see {

Lulu

,

Gragas

}, {

Lulu

,

Warwick

}, {

Amumu

,

Gragas

}, and {

Amumu

,

Warwick

}, so I lean towards

Gragas

+

Warwick

+ 1/2 of {

Lulu

,

Amumu

}.

I don't think this is a bad observation really, but I know I'm town so it isn't agreeable.

It doesn't say anywhere that alignment is randomizered after champion selection BUUUUT I don't think that our champions are really affected by alignment but more what we can do ON THE RIIIIIIFT!!!!

Yeah, I thought they were just what we can do in game as well.

Attack: Gragas

Why again, still previous reason or?

[.Lux.]

Praise be.

I am a new player; first game .Ashe.. Heard she was getting buffed and wanted to learn her. Please give me some time (~24 hours) to grasp the mechanics.

I do not have much to go off of, but from the first page I believe

Caitlyn

and

Elise

to be allies.

I weakly suspect

Warwick

is an enemy, but if so, I cannot determine who, if any, of

Amumu

,

Gragas

, or

Lulu

would be partners from there.

The second page adds

Gragas

suspicion, and makes me lean

Lulu

as well.

However, there is a decent chance

Caitlyn

is right in their

Gragas

/

Amumu

callout (with

Lulu

as the third) if I am mistaken on my

Warwick

impression.

I believe

Lux

and

Jarvan IV

(Jarvan > Lux; both entrances looked positive but Jarvan's more so) to be allies, but not as much as

Caitlyn

is; they are similar to my

Elise

read in strength.

The third page does not impact those reads, although it does chance my stance slightly;
I see {

Lulu

,

Gragas

}, {

Lulu

,

Warwick

}, {

Amumu

,

Gragas

}, and {

Amumu

,

Warwick

}, so I lean towards

Gragas

+

Warwick

+ 1/2 of {

Lulu

,

Amumu

}.

The fourth page, 96 aligns with my own thoughts in an ally-indicative way; I feel

Elise

's aggression on

Jarvan

shows a town alignment even if I feel the push to be ill-advised.

Lux, lulu, gragas, amumu
None have been hit.
Do we think that increases scum odds or are these slots townread

The only of those I do not wish to attack is

Lux

.

tl;dr:

Caitlyn

strong

town;

Lux

,

Elise

town;

Jarvan IV

lean town;
3/4 {

Warwick

,

Gragas

,

Amumu

,

Lulu

} scum; lean towards

Gragas

+

Warwick

.

Attack: Warwick

what's the dissonance between your jarvan read (his entrance stronger than mine) and i being a higher townread about? you've not made comment about either of us (at least, in this post) that shows what would tip the scales.

[.Lux.]

i'm struggling to get a read on things, or rather, a scumread. i'm weakly inclined to think that ashe's reads are worth sheeping though. if nothing else it pointed me to look at caitlyn's iso to see what was deserving of strong town and i don't agree with strong town, but i agree with town.

[.Lux.]

light binding: warwick, gragas

attack: gragas

tenderizing via demonstration.

[.Elise.]

There's one issue i notice.

No timer.
Day lasts before someone die.
But... What if no one die? Did mod made something to prevent staling?


So i think mafia do have secret abillity for this reason.

[.Elise.]

It is not saying that. I am town and I believe Ashe is town; I think we should focus our efforts on attacking scum if we are town.

I think it is valid to ask why I am being attack, especially since it seems I am constantly being attacked without people trying to sort me.

I think it's because of your manner of posting.

Atleast i wanted attack you too.

[.Lulu.]

Get her Pix, the sniper lady!! CAITLYN!!

I don't like the sniper lady.... she seems weird to me....

[.Caitlyn.]

Why again, still previous reason or?

In part that, yes.

I also think ashe's reads might be sheepworthy.

I'm getting the feeling Lulu is scum hiding behind her posting gimmick.

[.Caitlyn.]

ok ok ok ok ok ok.... ok........

SOOOOOOOO It doesn't say anywhere that alignment is randomizered after champion selection BUUUUT I don't think that our champions are really affected by alignment but more what we can do ON THE RIIIIIIFT!!!!

I don't think this game is mechanically solvautionable....
BUT!! I like the openness and knowing what people have available to use!!

It said it in our role cards and was how the roles were received (role followed by alignment later)

[.Caitlyn.]

There's one issue i notice.

No timer.
Day lasts before someone die.
But... What if no one die? Did mod made something to prevent staling?


So i think mafia do have secret abillity for this reason.

I don't think the mafia have a secret ability. I think that deadlines are just as long as we want them to be.

[.Ashe.]

You don't really explain why you are attacking me. Could you elaborate on your read of me?

I think it's because of your manner of posting.

^This.

The fourth page, 96 aligns with my own thoughts in an ally-indicative way

what's the dissonance between your jarvan read (his entrance stronger than mine) and i being a higher townread about? you've not made comment about either of us (at least, in this post) that shows what would tip the scales.

You missed a spot. You were the author of 96. That was what strengthened my read on you to surpass

Jarvan IV

.

What?? Caitlyn did a naked attack

only

on page one, how does that make you believe shes more likely to be an ally? That seems like a bit much.

The attack on

Warwick

looked good to me.

These vibes were strengthened by

Caitlyn

's later posting.

The second page adds

Gragas

suspicion,

What about my posts there make you suspicious of me?

The attack on

Caitlyn

; 30 was forced in a "trying to hard to be town" way (I believe the accepted term for this is 'LAMIST'); 37 is further forcing with the LAMIST as well as pushing hard in a way that is unnatural.

[.Ashe.]

Attack: Gragas

[.JarvanIV.]

Amumu's attack against me is also a non-sequitur to Caitlyn's statement. Sure, he expressed suspicion earlier, but this definitely feels like a "cheap shot."

you have the most health besides me and gragas, and i think gragas is more likely to be a friend than you. i may be sad but i don't want to attack myself. bringing your health down to be more in line with everyone else is very connected to caitlyn's statement, and is also because of my suspicion

why i think you are not a friend is that your focus on mechs is easy to do as either team, and you seem too worried about telling everyone how selfless you are and how everything you do is for the greater good. it smells like trying too hard and i don't trust it

you did bonus damage on your attack again?? how often are you able to do that? i don't know if you really are so much of the tank that you say you are when you do the most damage of anyone with your attacks

If we draw some parallels from normal Mafia then to achieve a Lim we need a majority of the playerbase voting one person; here I would expect that we would need a majority of the playerbase attacking one person before someone is seriously in danger of being "limmed." So for example if we somehow had an investigative guilty, everyone could "pile" that player. Bringing everyone down to HP parity for no strategic reason is dangerous at worst and a waste of mana or time at best.

According to the mod I did, although I don't know if I should have, so I will simply ask:

@Pooky

, is the game activity log related to Post 114 accurate?

If it is, then I don't have an answer to "how often am I able to do 'that' ."

[.JarvanIV.]

Don't you find it weird how people are sort of just... letting the attacks on Jarvan happen? It smells like something, but I don't know what I think it most likely smells like.
More like.. I want to say people are just trying to take advantage of him? But I'm not really confident in making assessments like this lately.

i can see this, and was part of why for a while i hadn't attacked him again despite my suspicion, i didn't want everyone to just keep ganging up on him and knocking him down. if it's that easy then i'm probably wrong. caitlyn's point about the large health pools made sense to me though and i decided it was okay because he has a lot of health left still. with the lulu shield, he hasn't really taken much damage yet, so i think the amount of attacks on him may be deceptive to the amount of actual danger he has been put in.

ignoring how people have responded so far, though, he does not seem like the typical low hanging fruit to me

There are three mafia but you have mostly focused your suspicion on me; do you have any other reads?

[.JarvanIV.]

I am also interested to hear

Gragas'

reads since his last posts did not have a lot of substance re: sorting people.

Elise's

attack on

Amumu

is random and her shying away from me, while appreciated, is noted with a *raised eyebrow.* Overall the slot's play is sort of all over the place which my gut tells me is Town-ish but my brain tells me if NAI.

Warwick's

last two posts are basically 1) OMGUS and 2) "pls stop" and while complaining that nobody is attempting to sort him, is not taking initiative to sort anyone else either.

Attack: Warwick

My town-read on

Ashe

is strengthened with the new person's entrance; reading it through made me realize that pairings and such is actually a really powerful tool in a game that starts 3v6 and has no night phases - I will attempt to make my own breakdown tomorrow when hopefully

Gragas

and others have fleshed out their reads.

[.Lulu.]

ok ok ok ok ok ok.... ok........

SOOOOOOOO It doesn't say anywhere that alignment is randomizered after champion selection BUUUUT I don't think that our champions are really affected by alignment but more what we can do ON THE RIIIIIIFT!!!!

I don't think this game is mechanically solvautionable....
BUT!! I like the openness and knowing what people have available to use!!

It said it in our role cards and was how the roles were received (role followed by alignment later)

OK mech not solvable, yay!!

Shiney Jarvan needs a new trick now!!

[.Lulu.]

Sniper lady is better, Shiny boi needs to do better, Mumu needs hugs, puppy needs pets, icy lady have good thinkinging, Beer man maybe, light laser pew pew lady is maybe too!!

Brain hurts now.... I should go find Veigar!!

[.Elise.]

It is not saying that. I am town and I believe Ashe is town; I think we should focus our efforts on attacking scum if we are town.

I think it is valid to ask why I am being attack, especially since it seems I am constantly being attacked without people trying to sort me.

Then, why you don't attack scum?

I believe enough time passed for you to have some suspicions, so why not?

Attack .Warwick.

[.Lulu.]

OOO I missed spider lady, spider lady is WWWWWEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRDDDDD.

[.Lulu.]

seriously though mumu and puppy need to being doing more. Sad mumu be sitting on the side and the puppy is too much puppy not enough grrrrr!!

[.Warwick.]

It is not saying that. I am town and I believe Ashe is town; I think we should focus our efforts on attacking scum if we are town.

I think it is valid to ask why I am being attack, especially since it seems I am constantly being attacked without people trying to sort me.

Then, why you don't attack scum?

I believe enough time passed for you to have some suspicions, so why not?

Attack .Warwick.

I've already attacked Jarvan IV, that is my current scumread. I don't understand your post.

Attack: Jarvan IV