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[Cephrir]

I genuinely would have a better shot preventing andante's elim by arguing she is scum than by arguing she is town. Oh hey, explaining my townread there is something I have done today, would you look at that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

in addition to the dunn thing, the super erratic and off the cuff way andante has played the entire game makes me think she is town

U call this an explanation?

[Andante]

I genuinely would have a better shot preventing andante's elim by arguing she is scum than by arguing she is town. Oh hey, explaining my townread there is something I have done today, would you look at that.

hahaha yep! that's literally been me all game! "Let's get Dunn!" then wagon that was forming on Dunn dissolved. I just don't understand here why you are the only one who TRs me, and how everyone is waiting till now to tunnel me... it was like "vote whoever in galron/tictac" then "get toog" and now it's "get andante!!"

[Cephrir]

in addition to the dunn thing, the super erratic and off the cuff way andante has played the entire game makes me think she is town

U call this an explanation?

yes

is your reading for townreading mastina better than this?

[Cephrir]

it was like "vote whoever in galron/tictac" then "get toog" and now it's "get andante!!"

yeah, if people think *i've* avoided the elim all game and that's suspicious, idk what to tell them about tictac

[Roden]

I genuinely would have a better shot preventing andante's elim by arguing she is scum than by arguing she is town. Oh hey, explaining my townread there is something I have done today, would you look at that.

hahaha yep! that's literally been me all game! "Let's get Dunn!" then wagon that was forming on Dunn dissolved. I just don't understand here why you are the only one who TRs me, and how everyone is waiting till now to tunnel me... it was like "vote whoever in galron/tictac" then "get toog" and now it's "get andante!!"

You literally said to elim all of those people though?? You wanted Galron over Tictac, you wanted Toog, and now you want Tictac.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Give that wolf a banana.

[Andante]

I genuinely would have a better shot preventing andante's elim by arguing she is scum than by arguing she is town. Oh hey, explaining my townread there is something I have done today, would you look at that.

hahaha yep! that's literally been me all game! "Let's get Dunn!" then wagon that was forming on Dunn dissolved. I just don't understand here why you are the only one who TRs me, and how everyone is waiting till now to tunnel me... it was like "vote whoever in galron/tictac" then "get toog" and now it's "get andante!!"

You literally said to elim all of those people though?? You wanted Galron over Tictac, you wanted Toog, and now you want Tictac.

Ok and? It takes more than 1 to lim people, and I made it very clear why I was ok with each one, if you strongly believed they were town, you were more than welcome to say something... but the way you say that now makes it sound like you knew they were town, and are trying to push today's lim on me, over the fact I was responsible for 2 town dying.

[Roden]

I genuinely would have a better shot preventing andante's elim by arguing she is scum than by arguing she is town. Oh hey, explaining my townread there is something I have done today, would you look at that.

hahaha yep! that's literally been me all game! "Let's get Dunn!" then wagon that was forming on Dunn dissolved. I just don't understand here why you are the only one who TRs me, and how everyone is waiting till now to tunnel me... it was like "vote whoever in galron/tictac" then "get toog" and now it's "get andante!!"

You literally said to elim all of those people though?? You wanted Galron over Tictac, you wanted Toog, and now you want Tictac.

Ok and? It takes more than 1 to lim people, and I made it very clear why I was ok with each one, if you strongly believed they were town, you were more than welcome to say something... but the way you say that now makes it sound like you knew they were town, and are trying to push today's lim on me,

over the fact I was responsible for 2 town dying.

Saying the quiet part out loud now, I guess.

If I was trying to push the elim on you I wouldn't be trying to reevaluate everyone. I wouldn't consider that maybe you're town and that you haven't been quick hammered because scum could be voting you. I literally would've just voted you by now.

The point I was making earlier was that you were trying to push responsibility for the mis-elims onto everyone else, and that we're now trying to get you next. But the reality is that you made major pushes and tried to pressure people to follow you.

I mean Roden, what kind of question is that? I don't think anyone here believes both tictac and galron are scum, both are scummy yes. Galron's D5 is significantly more terrible than tictac's, a lot of Galron's posts just don't read towny to me at all and the only "effort" is basically "yeah I agree with all yall. toctac is maf!" and to my knowledge there hasn't been much of a tictac push from galron

There's not much before/after this readslist either, I'm starting to think tictac may just be lhf, and like, tictac is just being tictac, cause the Arcade SR is after I was tunneling Arcade, so it was "ok, call this partner scum" TRed Ircher for a weird reason, I did see that in the ISO... it was like immediately after voting ircher/whatnot, maf... trying to buy Ircher a few extra nights... cause Ircher was more powerful than Dunn, Grendell/Meg called scum cause everyone was all "the replacement is suspicious!!!" tictac scum? I saw no reasoning, probably just someone who is easy to push in general?

I really don't have much by way of reads right now.

Ircher -- lean town
MUSHSHAGANA -- town
Lady Lambdadelta -- town
Bell -- town
Cephrir -- town
Andante Dwlee99 -- town
NorwegianboyEE -- null
The Three Bears (Titus, Flea the Magician, Noraa) -- null
Galron
Roden -- lean scum
Malakittens -- null
Mastina --town
Arcade Pals (Dunnstral, MariaR) -- scum
TheWayItEnds Princess Elodie -- null
Tet -- town
Grendel MegAzumarill -- scum
tictac -- scum
Toogeloo -- null
Val89 T3 -- null
Save The Dragons -- town
Greeting -town

That was a 15-second reads list, and I guess I have more than what I thought. Some of the towns and scums are stronger than others. The Three Bears is the most puzzling slot.

Andante i thought you didn't roll town.

hmmm bad thoughts!!! I am always town!!

Spoiler: Norwee do NOT read

except when I'm not....

yo so whoever isn't voting Galron, can you please vote Galron now? thanks

Look Roden, if it makes you happier, I'll flip tictac the town today, if you are THAT confident tictac is better. I'll flip. the "stalling" was just people waiting cause mala said "do not hammer I'm doing something" so no one hammered...

Like I don't know how else you expect me to interpret this.

[Andante]

If I was trying to push the elim on you I wouldn't be trying to reevaluate everyone. I wouldn't consider that maybe you're town and that you haven't been quick hammered because scum could be voting you. I literally would've just voted you by now.

The point I was making earlier was that you were trying to push responsibility for the mis-elims onto everyone else, and that we're now trying to get you next. But the reality is that you made major pushes and tried to pressure people to follow you.

Ok look, all I know, evrytime I look at this game, all I see is someone calling for my head. I'm not shifting responsibility off me, I'd love to see where I said "not my fault" I fully believed we were flipping scum both those times, if I was scum here, I'd have known we were flipping town there.
You want to consider I'm town? ok that's nice and all, but like, you literally went "these interactions show why dunn and andante can't be partnered" like.. I can't help you at all, if you don't think I'm town right now. You "towncased" me and still have doubts? ah right.. cause that means the solve isn't the simple bottom of the poe.
I give you this question then, why is mastina town? Mastina is doing an awful lot of coasting here, for a situation where if we lim wrong we lose, you'd think town would want to... actually think about their reads... Shows up every 2 days, quotes a bunch of stuff, that's it, it all reads to me as very "matter of fact" and not so much trying to read people... like, ONLY responds to people going "mastina is maf" where's the attempt to make reads/push SRs... it's nonexistent. mastina is literally just on defense this game, feels like she's just assuming if she sits on the sideline, I'll get limmed and maf wins

[The Three Bears]

im so disengaged its not even funny. but like atp im just like ok so tictac and andante are scum. everything else can just wait.
i dont know. i literally dont know.
mala says its norwee
massy says cephrir
cephrir says massy
i dont fukcing know. all i know is that andante and tictac are scum and if we lose to massy/cephrir/norwee, whatever. all i think right now is lets just murder obvscum and leave everythign else to tomorrow.

i think titus is still pretty busy but idk

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mala isn’t saying it’s me…

[NorwegianboyEE]

Their solve is Tictac/Andante/Mastina

[NorwegianboyEE]

I will admit that if i am wrong on someone, it’s prob Ceph.
But Andante/Tictac? No.
I also feel like if Ceph is town then Andante has been tryna pocket today by bring like: "they are my strongest townread" etc.

[NorwegianboyEE]

look fam, idk why anyone does anything. I have 1 lock town read and that is Ceph. everyone else I'm just trying to figure out who the town is. I know people want me dead, it's not easy, we have town wrapped up with mafia right now, feels like it's like 5maf vs 3 town right now tbh

*Puke emoji*

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m going back and fort on Tictac/Ceph today, but Andante town? Impossible.

[NorwegianboyEE]

When Titus will post that shit

[NorwegianboyEE]

Kindaa feel like the game is being hels hostage RN. >_>

[tictac]

i mean yea. still don't know if i'm just waiting to see if i get speedhammered, since still no mastina-post.
the impatience 4 yeet is u/bears mayybe andan (if not on block) thing tho.

[tictac]

@ roden did u claim yet?

[tictac]

I am having trouble figuring out something to actually say (brain kinda scrambled), but I've been around, reading offline

if u doing this. just pop in and say "i'm present"

[tictac]

Bears is obvtown from all three heads;

noraa maybe. pinkie, very much not.
like andante raction to pink push so understandable from my pow.
totally possible that it's actually mania and not motivated reasoning tho, but i dunno how to tell the two/the combo apart.

Bears is basically conftown from role;

they claimed conftown and it wasn't true.

Bears is molded when mold is a scum ability; Bears cannot be scum.

like scum has an abiliity that conftowns people and they used it 3 times?
really?

You would know yourself to be town (and I believe it); you have been molded; you are not scum.
I am town; I have been molded; I am not scum.

uhh

[tictac]

i'm like 80% on mastina being scum.

[tictac]

they actually in prod range tho. i don't think she'd do that 4 strat reasons

[Andante]

i'm like 80% on mastina being scum.

I'm 90% on mastina scum tbh