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Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #375 (ISO) » Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:57 pm

For Greeting, I wasn't impressed with their long 170 - I feel like it just rephrased a lot of what other people were saying. And 291 kind of pinged me like trying to get in a Town Venge's good graces.

Nordom · Post Post #376 (ISO) » Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:58 pm

In post 374, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 372, Nordom wrote:You know, is this what's expected of a mafia game now? "Let's all say these things, but don't back them up or elaborate on anything." You do realise that communication of thoughts and ideas is what makes this game tick, right?
Well what would you like to know?

Well, if you say some shit like "I don't feel Nordom's case" then at least back it up with some reasoning on why. I'm not advocating for players to write paragraphs and paragraphs every time, but to communicate what they're thinking goes a long way.

Nordom · Post Post #377 (ISO) » Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:59 pm

In post 375, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:For Greeting, I wasn't impressed with their long 170 - I feel like it just rephrased a lot of what other people were saying. And 291 kind of pinged me like trying to get in a Town Venge's good graces.

Hmmmmmmm, honestly, I had kind of the same read on Greeting as well.

Nordom · Post Post #378 (ISO) » Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:59 pm

Why are you reading Radical town though?

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #379 (ISO) » Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:11 pm

In post 376, Nordom wrote:
In post 374, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 372, Nordom wrote:You know, is this what's expected of a mafia game now? "Let's all say these things, but don't back them up or elaborate on anything." You do realise that communication of thoughts and ideas is what makes this game tick, right?
Well what would you like to know?
Well, if you say some shit like "I don't feel Nordom's case" then at least back it up with some reasoning on why. I'm not advocating for players to write paragraphs and paragraphs every time, but to communicate what they're thinking goes a long way.

I got the feeling there was some sort of misreading when I was reading the your back and forth. I guess I can take a stab at explaining, since what RR said in 224 sort of made sense to me:

- Town Vengeful usually do not claim Town Vengeful at E-1. I've seen Town Vengeful fakeclaim at E-1 and die denying their true role.

- The reason to not trueclaim is because doing so will prompt scum to play around the vengeful. Town, being uninformed, will have "scummier" reactions than scum, which is bad because the vengeful will probably end up killing town.

- Roden claimed Venge at E-1. Therefore, Roden was probably scum, not a Town Vengeful.

Although tbh, the last part I don't 100% agree with b/c I didn't think Roden was fakeclaiming, I kinda thought he was scum venge.

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #380 (ISO) » Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:12 pm

In post 378, Nordom wrote:Why are you reading Radical town though?

Mostly because of his Ircher push - I thought 335 warrants a response.

Nordom · Post Post #381 (ISO) » Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:18 pm

Roden wrote:Town Vengeful usually do not claim Town Vengeful at E-1. I've seen Town Vengeful fakeclaim at E-1 and die denying their true role

This is something that I posted about, but it was mostly ignored.

In post 221, Nordom wrote:Hmmmmmm. I'm inclined to believe Roden is town here because their story seems pretty consistent. They didn't really put up a fight, even when put a L-1 and anybody could have hammered at any time. There was barely any resistance to their lynch and I would think if they were mafia they would have claimed earlier as opposed to waiting for someone to prompt them to claim.

The possibility exists that they could have the role as mafia, but I think mafia would use their role as leverage to get a wagon off them as opposed to submitting to a lynch just to kill someone. People are going to be hesitant to push on a Vengeful claim and I find it hard to believe maf wouldn't take advantage of that in a more timely fashion.

Nordom · Post Post #382 (ISO) » Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:20 pm

In post 380, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 378, Nordom wrote:Why are you reading Radical town though?
Mostly because of his Ircher push - I thought 335 warrants a response.

I threw shade on this shit as well. If Radical was gut-reading town on Ircher D1, why all of a sudden are they going to push on him when I pressure him with a vote and Galan throws a vote on him?

Nordom · Post Post #383 (ISO) » Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:20 pm

And by vote I mean Galan's vote on Ircher.

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #384 (ISO) » Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:26 pm

In post 381, Nordom wrote:
Roden wrote:Town Vengeful usually do not claim Town Vengeful at E-1. I've seen Town Vengeful fakeclaim at E-1 and die denying their true role
This is something that I posted about, but it was mostly ignored.

In post 221, Nordom wrote:Hmmmmmm. I'm inclined to believe Roden is town here because their story seems pretty consistent. They didn't really put up a fight, even when put a L-1 and anybody could have hammered at any time. There was barely any resistance to their lynch and I would think if they were mafia they would have claimed earlier as opposed to waiting for someone to prompt them to claim.

The possibility exists that they could have the role as mafia, but I think mafia would use their role as leverage to get a wagon off them as opposed to submitting to a lynch just to kill someone. People are going to be hesitant to push on a Vengeful claim and I find it hard to believe maf wouldn't take advantage of that in a more timely fashion.

I didn't think Roden was really lying in his own grave when he claimed though. Based on the tone, it looked like he claimed in 204 thinking that was going to get people to shift off.

In post 382, Nordom wrote:
In post 380, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 378, Nordom wrote:Why are you reading Radical town though?
Mostly because of his Ircher push - I thought 335 warrants a response.
I threw shade on this shit as well. If Radical was gut-reading town on Ircher D1, why all of a sudden are they going to push on him when I pressure him with a vote and Galan throws a vote on him?

Ircher also did a 180 on A50 and then refused to engage today. Idk, I don't want to speak for RR but how often do you stick to your day 1 gut reads?

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #385 (ISO) » Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:26 pm

I don't get what Galron's vote has to do with it. You mean just the timing of it was suspect?

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #386 (ISO) » Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:27 pm

I feel like timing arguments like that rarely hold water.

Enchant · Post Post #387 (ISO) » Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:28 pm

CSF, can you vote me?

Greeting · Post Post #388 (ISO) » Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:29 pm

I feel bad about voting out

Roden

. I feel like he should have claimed earlier, my gears about his role would have clicked. Sorry,

Roden

.

I wonder why the scums killed

Andante

though. She posted literally nothing and posed a threat to no one. Maybe they just didn't want to give out any information about anyone. Because normally when I play with her she kinda survives until later on in the game.

Greeting · Post Post #389 (ISO) » Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:30 pm

As for the rest, I will catch up today afternoon.

Nordom · Post Post #390 (ISO) » Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:31 pm

In post 385, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I don't get what Galron's vote has to do with it. You mean just the timing of it was suspect?

Radical decides it's the time to take a hard-stance and push when I'm pressuring them and Galan planted a vote on Ircher before-hand.

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #391 (ISO) » Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:32 pm

In post 387, Enchant wrote:CSF, can you vote me?

I just have to do it once right? I don't have to keep my vote on you?

VOTE: Enchant
UNVOTE:

Enchant · Post Post #392 (ISO) » Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:33 pm

In post 391, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 387, Enchant wrote:CSF, can you vote me?
I just have to do it once right? I don't have to keep my vote on you?

VOTE: Enchant
UNVOTE:

It works as long as you not voting someone else, so yeah it's fine.

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #393 (ISO) » Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:35 pm

Wait it won't work if I vote anyone else today? Uh, I hate to break it to you...

Enchant · Post Post #394 (ISO) » Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:40 pm

In post 393, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Wait it won't work if I vote anyone else today? Uh, I hate to break it to you...

Yeah. If you feel your vote NEEDED, then i probably can just find someone else.

Enchant · Post Post #395 (ISO) » Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:51 pm

VOTE: Radical Cat

Also

Toogeloo · Post Post #396 (ISO) » Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:02 pm

Someone tell me if I'm wrong here, but was Andante's ability basically a Lightning Rod? If so, they might have eaten extra shots, and explain why they died to whomever thought it was weird.

Enchant · Post Post #397 (ISO) » Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:04 pm

In post 396, Toogeloo wrote:Someone tell me if I'm wrong here, but was Andante's ability basically a Lightning Rod? If so, they might have eaten extra shots, and explain why they died to whomever thought it was weird.

It only works on people who didn't visit anyone.

It means mafia performing kill should have visited someone else and thus imunne.
Andante was original kill target.

Nordom · Post Post #398 (ISO) » Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:14 pm

In post 385, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I don't get what Galron's vote has to do with it. You mean just the timing of it was suspect?

Has nothing to do with Galron's intentions, but Radical's vote.

Radical Rat · Post Post #399 (ISO) » Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:42 pm

In post 359, Nordom wrote:If that were the case, why didn't you just point that out? You claimed that scum were going to NK them regardless, why would it matter that Roden was going to get hammered? You kept the lynch at L-1 and didn't unvote, which is an obvious indicator that you wanted to the lynch to go through. If you truly believed that town was going to be the hammer on them, then you would have said so. You didn't and sat on your haunches while it went through.

That was the entire point I was trying to make. I didn't believe the claim, because Town shouldn't have claimed there, and as such wanted the elimination to happen. Though with knowledge of Roden's actual abilities, I do actually think claiming and getting eliminated for it was the correct play, at the time I didn't buy it.