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Post Post #1225 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:30 am

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In post 1115, bugspray wrote:i really don't understand why hem would say me+shiki in finals when he was so certain that me+enchant are scum partners
monkey was worried about me/enchant if enchant was mafia

which is more or less irrelevant now i think like maybe not like confirmed but close enough yeah
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Post Post #1226 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:32 am

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In post 1117, Meuh wrote:Why the worst is an evil scummy evil scum scummy scum scum mafia duck
oh there is big explanation post ignore my earlier questioning

i assume this comes down to the worst potentially trying to suggest other pairings at crunch time, which yeah puts the worst below the others pushing similar narrative probably,

but anyway reading now!
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Post Post #1227 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:40 am

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In post 1156, the worst wrote:
trust: ydrasse
sorry if this one is epic dumb
hmhmhm

could you walk me through the

'i am worried mafia!ydrasse is turning it on for day two'

to

trusting ydrasse thought process please?
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Post Post #1228 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:46 am

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In post 1117, Meuh wrote:Oh boy... if the worst really is scum as I suspect,
i kinda worry

that this line of mafia!the worst is built off of my expressed worries of the worst doing this at the time

but also it's not really like those worries have been satisfied by humaneatingmonkey/enchant flipping town

and i am glad that the trusts made in my absence went the directions they did

even if i probably would have still preferred more patience
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Post Post #1229 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:54 am

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In post 1175, Kuriyama wrote:im kind of thinking about trusting duck to end the game because if duck/me flip t/t then ydra should be clear since she couldve accepted duck and ydra/shiki would end the game
let's see

so you're pretty likely to be town

and ydrasse very likely to be town or! partnered with the worst

so if the worst town then ydrasse town

so logic makes sense

but!

guess i would maybe like to be more confident in town!the worst than i am right now

as mafia!the worst does not leave us in a very good position

as ydrasse becomes very much not confirmed and we would no longer be able to miss and still need to find four towns with just one known
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Post Post #1230 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:56 am

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worst and i can’t be partners because of the trust
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Post Post #1231 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:59 am

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In post 1229, chavela wrote:guess i would maybe like to be more confident in town!the worst than i am right now
wish fuzzy messy useless moon brain would maybe be less fuzzy so i could just squint really hard at specifically this

because from there it's just press buttons be glad everyone is wiser than me

but alas

like my attempts to be useful while being terrible going pretty okay so far (other than approach sometimes sorry again andante) but yeah
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Post Post #1232 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:00 am

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In post 1230, Ydrasse wrote:worst and i can’t be partners because of the trust
why not?
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Post Post #1233 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:04 am

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In post 1232, chavela wrote:
In post 1230, Ydrasse wrote:worst and i can’t be partners because of the trust
why not?
like it just means you can't accept that trust

and you're both already locked into trusts offered

like it seems pretty likely you are town to me

like much more so than the other

which doesn't really have any sway on the worst alignment

but not certain

can definitely get over 90% that it is one of those two options

as it seems unlikely to me you would not jettison

but maybe only to 85% on the town option alone
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Post Post #1234 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:14 am

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In post 1193, Greeting wrote:But there is a piece of information that's missing here and probably confusing you. It's the fact that chavela has laid out the exact same point earlier (in a strategic way, just like yours) and I didn't come at them for it, but came for you instead.

Here's why: I didn't read the thread carefully enough.

This is actually a really bad mistake on my part, given the fact that I was speculating on whether to offer to trust chavela in Day 1. Now I know that I won't.
wait what

i guess i don't really understand how you could weigh this against the things you could be townreading me for

and come to the conclusion that i should not leave the game at some point
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Post Post #1235 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:16 am

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In post 1233, chavela wrote:
In post 1232, chavela wrote:
In post 1230, Ydrasse wrote:worst and i can’t be partners because of the trust
why not?
like it just means you can't accept that trust

and you're both already locked into trusts offered

like it seems pretty likely you are town to me

like much more so than the other

which doesn't really have any sway on the worst alignment

but not certain

can definitely get over 90% that it is one of those two options

as it seems unlikely to me you would not jettison

but maybe only to 85% on the town option alone
which maybe weighs against kuriyama offering a trust to the worst and towards kuriyama accepting your trust

hmhmhm
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Post Post #1236 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:22 am

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In post 1193, Greeting wrote:As for the rest: I've laid all my cards on the table with my strategy in this game. I feel that I am one individual who happens to share a goal with 7 others - and that is to find someone who is 100% town and to exit the game with them. If you think of the game this way, you start to look for a potential partner to exit with. I absolutely do feel that matches should be consulted, because any potential error of judgement can be fatal so we all have to think thrice before offering or taking a trust. I don't have a better idea to approach this game so I'm probably going to continue this strategy for the remainder of my presence in it. Unless I get a better idea, but I probably won't.
i guess maybe part of why this worries me

is that i presented this as my strategy when i was mafia in trust fall once

in order to make the game as narrow as i could for myself
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Post Post #1237 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:27 am

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In post 1139, Ydrasse wrote:i dont think scum are playing much at all this game

it's like all the townies are mingling and they mingled a lot early and it's too hard now for scum to really break into the core
I kinda agree tbf. My problem is that there's not nearly enough players I'm confident are town.
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Post Post #1238 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:30 am

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In post 1221, Pavowski wrote:maybe I'll throw it at one of those in my not-so-sure list
uh, why though

like why trust a not-so-sure when there are existing trust offers between those on your pretty sure list
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Post Post #1239 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:31 am

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% chance on meuh/the worst distancing?
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Post Post #1240 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:32 am

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In post 1239, chavela wrote:% chance on meuh/the worst distancing?
anyone can answer this

though i guess maybe the worst and meuh weighing in wouldn't be all that helpful
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Post Post #1241 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:37 am

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In post 1239, chavela wrote:% chance on meuh/the worst distancing?
"bussing" super free in this setup

and it's not too difficult for me to see the potential a to b to c here for both of them from a mafia perspective
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Post Post #1242 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:45 am

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In post 1239, chavela wrote:% chance on meuh/the worst distancing?
meuh flipping from duckie!scum to i want to trust duckie doesn't feel like s/s theatre
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Post Post #1243 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:46 am

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In post 1240, chavela wrote:
In post 1239, chavela wrote:% chance on meuh/the worst distancing?
anyone can answer this

though i guess maybe the worst and meuh weighing in wouldn't be all that helpful
I’m townreading ducky. They’re pretty spot-on with their judgement of my behavior in this game tbf (). In fact, I’d be more suspicious of players who are overenthusiastic about my play townsolving me this instant.
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Post Post #1244 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:46 am

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In post 1240, chavela wrote:
In post 1239, chavela wrote:% chance on meuh/the worst distancing?
anyone can answer this

though i guess maybe the worst and meuh weighing in wouldn't be all that helpful
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Post Post #1245 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:49 am

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In post 1242, Kuriyama wrote:
In post 1239, chavela wrote:% chance on meuh/the worst distancing?
meuh flipping from duckie!scum to i want to trust duckie doesn't feel like s/s theatre
hmhmhm

do you think

the worst expressing worry about ydrasse and then offering her a trust very shortly thereafter is comparable?
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Post Post #1246 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:49 am

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Meuh
, if you had to decide right now, whom would you be willing to offer to trust the most?
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Post Post #1247 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:56 am

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In post 1245, chavela wrote:the worst expressing worry about ydrasse and then offering her a trust very shortly thereafter is comparable?
I don't think he expressed worry about Ydra the way Meuh "cased" duckie.

Just skimming iso it seems like more of a poe thing than actual focused suspicion?
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Post Post #1248 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:23 am

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In post 1247, Kuriyama wrote:
In post 1245, chavela wrote:the worst expressing worry about ydrasse and then offering her a trust very shortly thereafter is comparable?
I don't think he expressed worry about Ydra the way Meuh "cased" duckie.

Just skimming iso it seems like more of a poe thing than actual focused suspicion?
hm

@meuh what did you like about the worst’s response to your case though?

something feels amiss here

i guess i should wait for the worst to walk me through thought process regarding ydrasse before saying more on that
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Post Post #1249 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:57 am

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In post 1248, chavela wrote:
In post 1247, Kuriyama wrote:
In post 1245, chavela wrote:the worst expressing worry about ydrasse and then offering her a trust very shortly thereafter is comparable?
I don't think he expressed worry about Ydra the way Meuh "cased" duckie.

Just skimming iso it seems like more of a poe thing than actual focused suspicion?
hm

@meuh what did you like about the worst’s response to your case though?

something feels amiss here

i guess i should wait for the worst to walk me through thought process regarding ydrasse before saying more on that
Will answer in a few hours :cool:

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