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[Artem]

Artem: not that I mind, but why you are voting thinktank rather than chapter 5, in light of your post 325

Yes, it's true, I find C5 more suspicious than thinktank, but, like I said, we need to come to the consensus for the game to move along. Thinktank was actively lurking, while C5 was being inactive. While I would have loved for C5 to post some defense or for the replacement to come in and actually contribute to the game, the game has been more or less dead for weeks. So, in the interests of moving it along, I went for the lurker lynch. Also, thinktank appeared more active than C5 and putting pressure on an active player is more likely to result in new content than pressuring an inactive player. Thus, my vote.

[lifeofpie]

Ah, yes, I understand your reasoning about my quicklynch ideas.
Perhaps I was getting tired.
I did change my mind a few times, I wanted some progress.
I would rather have lynched C5, but that apparently wasn't going to happen.

[Fenchurch]

I still have my hopes on thinktank=scum, and if so I find lifeofpie's vote plausibly bussing.

As I've only played in MeatWorld before, speculating in twilight feels a bit odd, what with a cardflip reveal just around the corner.

Hoping NabNab checks the thread tonight.

Can we have the deathscene/cardflip, please?

[RandomGem]

VOICE OF MOD:

Mod has been prodded.

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[Petunho]

Limiter Access. I'll on vacation from Friday 24th of October until 9th of November. I have a access to internet at least some of the days, but cause I'm in Thailand I'm not gonna hang around on computer all day ; )

[NabakovNabakov]

I apologize for my lateness.

Final Vote Count of D1

Petunho (1):

thegeckoj

ShadowLurker (1):

Chapter 5

thegeckoj (1):

Petunho

thinktank (5):

Shadowlurker, Artem, RandomGem, Fenchurch, lifeofpie

Not voting (1)

thinktank

thinktank -

Mafia Goon

is Lynched D1!

Please have all night-choices to me by Saturday

[NabakovNabakov]

So Sorry, I was very busy this weekend!

ShadowLurker-

Townie

Killed N1

Begin Day Two!

[lifeofpie]

All I can say right now: OMG.
Not what I was expecting at all.
On the lynch, I mean.

The nightkill is an intelligent one, I believe that they are removing our ICs to make us with less support.

[ShadowLurker]

Gl town

[RandomGem]

I think it's lifeofpie. 'Nuff said?

Vote: lifeofpie

[thegeckoj]

would life of pie kept his vote on his scum buddie? that is a pretty dangerous game. i am still convinced petunho is scum per day one reasons. but not ready to vote just yet.

[RandomGem]

Well there was him trying to nudge us away from thinktank, and rather lynch Chapter 5 on very slim reasons. (

Mod: How is the replacement process for Chapter 5 going?

)
And also, he started this day with a post that just makes me really suspicious... like he's telling us what scum's thinking? And the surprise at thinktank's cardflip seems fake to me.

[Fenchurch]

would life of pie kept his vote on his scum buddie? that is a pretty dangerous game.

What? lifeofpie's vote was the hammer, so he actively made the choice to lynch, it wasn't a "dangerous game".

Of the votes on thinktank's wagon, lifeofpie's is definitely the most bussy. I had second thoughts for a while, but reading through page 17 again it seems obvious.
1. thinktank was at L-1
2. RandomGem and I were questioning why lifeofpie was so intent on chapter 5 over thinktank
3. thegeckoj had said he was willing to hammer once thinktank had posted
4. lifeofpie got tired of waiting for his scumbuddy to defend himself, thought the situation was looking dire as it was, and decided to try and cut his losses and get on the wagon before it was too late.

FoS: lifeofpie

I am planning to look at the players who weren't on the wagon, too, and hopefully even re-read the whole game again, in light of thinktank=scum and ShadowLurker=town, but these things will take more time, and the lifeofpie case is glaring.

Also, so happy about the thinktank lynch
It's pretty embarassing to admit, but I had anxious dreams about the lynch result pretty much every night whilst we were waiting for it. Mafia eats into my brain way too much.

[Artem]

I think that since C5 is inactive but somebody made the night choice, there's a good chance that C5 is a townie.

Re-reading the last few posts during D1, I, too, am leaning towards lifeofpie bussing his buddy.

Vote: lifeofpie

[lifeofpie]

My ipod doesn't cut and paste, so I'm going to take a few posts here.

I think it's lifeofpie. 'Nuff said?

Vote: lifeofpie

No.
Lame reason.

[lifeofpie]

Well there was him trying to nudge us away from thinktank, and rather lynch Chapter 5 on very slim reasons. (

Mod: How is the replacement process for Chapter 5 going?

)

I honestly think that the motivation for either lynch was very slim.m

[lifeofpie]

Also, this would make C5 a confirmed townie as Artem said, right?
With two mafia and one dead, an inactive mafia member would make no nightkill.

[Fenchurch]

Is that your defence lifeofpie? "Neither of the cases were that good; and look, chapter 5 is probably confirmed innocent now".
The first part does nothing to explain your initial reluctance to vote thinktank, and then your change of mind to lynch him. The second part isn't even relevant. Right now, I'm almost certain you're scum, I'm just not sure whether to vote or not.

As Petunho is on V/LA, and chapter 5 needs replacing, if I vote then it will be up to thegeckoj to decide if he wants to end the day or not.

I haven't re-read yet, but here are my notes on the other players:

* RandomGem, Artem, Fenchurch - placed early votes on thinktank and/or argued in favour of his lynch. Not proved innocent, but less likely to be scum, since the loss:gain ratio would be low.

* Petunho - argued against thinktank's lynch, and for this reason would be my second choice candidate for today. However, his points were reasoned.

* thegeckoj - still hasn't posted anything useful, but I've read some of his other games, and he plays the same way and has been mislynched for it at least once, so I now see this as a null tell.

* chapter 5 - as far as we know is inactive, so most likely innocent due to the night kill

On the one hand, I'm so sure it's lifeofpie, and the prospect of dragging things out until at least the 9th Nov (Petunho's return) isn't appealing, especially after the length of our day 1. On the other hand, if it isn't lifeofpie, then lynching so early means day 2 is wasted information-wise.
I can't decide whether the siutation justifies the risk. Argh.

[Fenchurch]

Quote extracts:

"I don't see how you could possibly be bored"

"I'm not in a rush."

"Quicklynch bad."

"I don't exactly know if putting a second day up would help much"

And then

"

this game is going rather slowly.

"

"

This is getting way too slow

, and my main worry is that a replacement will not help to speed things up much.
Think, I want to hear SOMETHING that shows you give a damn (or maybe C5 posting something scummy). by tomorrow or I think I will be in the mood to hammer."

"No, I meant if C5 posted something scummy I wouldn't vote for think.
*crosses fingers*
Unvote, Vote: thinktank"

(Thanks to Petunho for making quote collection much easier)

Code: Select all

Tally of posts per day:
Oct 3  - I
Oct 4  - I
Oct 5  - 
Oct 6  - IIII
Oct 7  - 
Oct 8  - III
Oct 9  - 
Oct 10 - I
Oct 11 - II
Oct 12 - 
Oct 13 - IIIIII
Oct 14 - IIII
Oct 15 - II
Oct 16 - I
Oct 17 - IIIIIII
Oct 18 - IIIIIIII
Oct 19 - IIIIII

Note: Tallied on Greenwich Mean Time, so may not match everyone's perceptions, but should show the general trend

On Oct 18 lifeofpie starts complaining the game is going slowly, when in fact that game had sped up (with a lot of the recent posts adding to the wagon on thinktank). What lifeofpie is actually concerned about is the game going

too fast

, and in a direction that isn't good for him.

I'm willing to take a risk.

Vote: lifeofpie

Which leaves thegeckoj to cast a hammer vote if he so chooses.

[lifeofpie]

Is that your defence lifeofpie? "Neither of the cases were that good; and look, chapter 5 is probably confirmed innocent now"

The first part is my defense. Second part was something seperate I stated because I felt that it would be useful to people.
Also, I already stated I was getting impatient.
Fenchurch, you are attempting a quicklynch now. I do not believe that you were for one on day 1. Why so hasty now? Didn't you yourself say that more info is always good?
What kind of defense do you want? You have me backed into a corner, noose in your hand. Anything I could say you'd just attempt to turn against me, or whoever is scum. I won't bother voting because it would likely be called an omgus by you. You're probably going to type some indignant response to this post explaining how I am even scummier.
You are one of many. I just think you're worst. I honestly can't guess at who is scum because you all suddenly decided to quicklynch, which is dumb.
Fen and Petunho are my top suspects right now.
Although I think it could be Artem, I doubt it.
No read on gecko really, either.

[lifeofpie]

Wow, that was a long rant.

[Fenchurch]

You say I was cautious on D1, but really I was only cautious with the case against Drifter, and that was because I had doubts.

Circumstances today are different, and I think that the information we have gives us a good chance at the right lynch. Of course I'm not certain, but my judgement is that the risk-reward ratio makes it worthwhile (the risk being a mislynch, but the reward being the possibility of insta-win, and not having to wait another 2+ weeks for it).

I would like to hear from RandomGem and Artem whether they think that we should be holding back, and also what thegeckoj is thinking about this case.

[lifeofpie]

I didn't want to vote think because he was IC and I figured that he would likely be able to assist us more.
Why was think a better lynch than C5?
I worked with what I had.

[Fenchurch]

I'm going to butt out, because I'd really like to hear from other people.

[Artem]

I didn't want to vote think because he was IC and I figured that he would likely be able to assist us more.
Why was think a better lynch than C5?
I worked with what I had.

C5 was inactive, while thinktank was actively lurking. Thinktank was promising content and not providing it.

I would like to hear from RandomGem and Artem whether they think that we should be holding back, and also what thegeckoj is thinking about this case.

I'm happy with my vote, but I think we need to hear from thegeckoj and Petunho before we hammer.

This post, in particular, strikes me as scummy:

No, I meant if C5 posted something scummy I wouldn't vote for think.
*crosses fingers*
Unvote, Vote: thinktank

lifeofpie is looking for a way out of not voting for his buddy, but C5 is being inactive and thinktank is not defending himself. So, it feels like lifeofpie gets fed up and busses his buddy.