In post 248, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: ShadowGirl
I think this might be the play, I've been getting a sort of vibe that she's careful and calculated in a way that tends to keep me from suspecting people normally but is probably mafia indicative
Can you explain to me how I am being more careful and calculated than koopashell, whose only defense for the fact they don't have to give reads is they have a "cleared" claim, and who from the start of the Day the majority of their scumreads are focused on people that suspected them, and that they are going after me because I was the most comprehensive in actually quoting multiples of their posts which showed contradictions in their thinking?
In post 249, Radical Rat wrote:I was townreading her, because her thought process made sense and was believable, but no the koopa vote's pretty bad in the current gamestate.
VOTE: ShadowGirl
E-2 I believe.
Koopashell hasn't quoted a single sentence out of any of my posts explaining what they feel is not genuine about my reads and they have also have zero intention of answering question from other players. I cannot see how this is not scum behaviour.
The problem is if koopashell's Town, his claim is both easily confirmable and very powerful. Either he does tonight from the scumkill, or we eliminate him after he fails to actually deliver on his claim.
For now, it's better to leave it be.
Maybe the real Mafia was the friends we made along the way
In post 248, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: ShadowGirl
I think this might be the play, I've been getting a sort of vibe that she's careful and calculated in a way that tends to keep me from suspecting people normally but is probably mafia indicative
Can you explain to me how I am being more careful and calculated than koopashell, whose only defense for the fact they don't have to give reads is they have a "cleared" claim, and who from the start of the Day the majority of their scumreads are focused on people that suspected them, and that they are going after me because I was the most comprehensive in actually quoting multiples of their posts which showed contradictions in their thinking?
In post 249, Radical Rat wrote:I was townreading her, because her thought process made sense and was believable, but no the koopa vote's pretty bad in the current gamestate.
VOTE: ShadowGirl
E-2 I believe.
Koopashell hasn't quoted a single sentence out of any of my posts explaining what they feel is not genuine about my reads and they have also have zero intention of answering question from other players. I cannot see how this is not scum behaviour.
I mean, the things you're accusing koopashell of are not what I'd call "careful and calculated". The initial soft was very half-baked.
<Embrace The Void>
“A flipped coin doesn't always land heads or tails. Sometimes it may never land at all...”
In post 251, Radical Rat wrote:The problem is if koopashell's Town, his claim is both easily confirmable and very powerful. Either he does tonight from the scumkill, or we eliminate him after he fails to actually deliver on his claim.
In post 248, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: ShadowGirl
I think this might be the play, I've been getting a sort of vibe that she's careful and calculated in a way that tends to keep me from suspecting people normally but is probably mafia indicative
Can you explain to me how I am being more careful and calculated than koopashell, whose only defense for the fact they don't have to give reads is they have a "cleared" claim, and who from the start of the Day the majority of their scumreads are focused on people that suspected them, and that they are going after me because I was the most comprehensive in actually quoting multiples of their posts which showed contradictions in their thinking?
In post 249, Radical Rat wrote:I was townreading her, because her thought process made sense and was believable, but no the koopa vote's pretty bad in the current gamestate.
VOTE: ShadowGirl
E-2 I believe.
Koopashell hasn't quoted a single sentence out of any of my posts explaining what they feel is not genuine about my reads and they have also have zero intention of answering question from other players. I cannot see how this is not scum behaviour.
I mean, the things you're accusing koopashell of are not what I'd call "careful and calculated". The initial soft was very half-baked.
I would love to know what I have calculated this game.
So it's shadow or koopa?... I'm at a sports bar right now I'll seriously read when I get back home. My initial impressions is that coupons being very calm and delivering about everything all shadow doesn't seem to have it all put together not sure if it's alignment indicated yet
A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy?
I feel like shadows scum case is like one layer too deep to be a decent scum case. The only thing really scummy here is how aggressive they are
The one thing that's keeping me back from completely being in koopa's corner is the fact that out of all the rules could have drawn he draws the main character?
Wtf? And not only that the actual bully got doesn't feel like it fits for Phoenix wright... Combined with the icky monkey feeling that this game has actually mostly thanks to him responding and keeping to add layers to the game it's I don't want to be in his corner... I understand why Shadow girl seems scummy but Cooper's actions turn this into a complete 50/50 for me
A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy?
I'm thinking it relates to the penalty system, if phoenix gets it right then the scum gets found guilty, if he gets it wrong he gets in trouble
in the game running out of penalties results in his client being found guilty but I think in this case he'd just be thrown out/arrested for contempt of court
<Embrace The Void>
“A flipped coin doesn't always land heads or tails. Sometimes it may never land at all...”
Gamma, I think your explanation of how that role works flavour wise does makes more sense to me, as I couldn't wrap my head around how a
killing
role possibly could fit for Phoenix Wright, as I am believe that role powers do go hand in hand with flavour background.
In post 251, Radical Rat wrote:The problem is if koopashell's Town, his claim is both easily confirmable and very powerful. Either he does tonight from the scumkill, or we eliminate him after he fails to actually deliver on his claim.
For now, it's better to leave it be.
I still think koopa being so obtusely difficult to engage with feels anti-town, but for now I'll UNVOTE: as the flavour now makes a little more sense to me.
What would save you is posting thoughts - particularly reads - with thought processes attached to them.
I do not think you add anything of value to the conversation and that feels intentional, and if you wish to help find you as a villager, you need to display a thought process consistent with being a villager, or explain reasoning for your thought process so far that goes beyond simple reactiveness.
In other news, Kdca's recent thoughtspew feels villagery in a way that shows they are acting in a way that is uninformed/not agenda driven. They have left my PoE and entered my villa reads.
I mean I'd love to develop more reads on people, but there's players who basically briefly showed up in the early game but are essentially lurking now, like Not Mafia and The Bulge, so there's very little content to even go over. So yeah, it does feel like hitting my head against a brick wall at the moment because there's only a few of us being active and we keep going around the same topics because that's what there is to go on.
I also agree that kcdaspot's recent activity seem townie as there's a transparent development of thoughts over time. And it would have been super easy for them to put me at E-1 and force a claim from me.
VOTE: The Bulge as the early spat with koopa feels like an early attempt to appear like doing active scumhunting and despite promises to re-engage, I haven't see any content from them since then.
