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[JacksonVirgo]

Also if you were so sure that its a full town neighbourhood. Why not claim in there

I wasn't. My position was to treat the hood as town and I developed weak reads individually.

But still, why not start there?

[Crescent]

Bad things happened last night and I'm not in any mental shape to be doing much right now.

Can someone run down what I've missed over the last full day or so? I want to keep myself current in the game, but I don't trust myself to absorb several pages of information properly right now. I see talk that a second protection claimed on this page?

[JacksonVirgo]

I think the hood is my townblock.

[MathBlade]

Titus if you’re town let go. Scorpious can happen later if you’re right. I just don’t think you are. You’re just blatantly not seeing the signs in front of you. Scorpious is town.

Alright. Looks like I have to explain why you need to sit down and shut up. I am a combined doctor and neighbor.

My plan all along has been to use the hood as a method to find the entire scumteam without outing being a doctor or being perceived as a threat.

We had a Scorpious elimination when activity was reasonable so I wouldn't have to out. However you gave scum a place to hide, turn around his wagon and stop me from playing my game.

All for a scumfuck who telegraphed a weak protective claim he planned bc he knows he gets caught as scum.

Duck you.

Your turn to shit down shut up and die.

Combined two shot gunsmith with an inno on Gamma.

My vote doesn’t move.

[Crescent]

Why are people randomly claiming powers what the hell did I miss?

[MathBlade]

I believed Scorpio’s claim over yours because Scorpio is designed for me to scumread him.

You’re designed to be a false inno.

[MathBlade]

Why are people randomly claiming powers what the hell did I miss?

You missed Titus being salty she can’t have her pet miselim.

I keep saying no so she tried claims doctor which is a scum claim considering I am gunsmith.

[MathBlade]

Hi! Just got off work and catching up. Gonna see if there’s a smoke trail I can sense as much as my two nostrils can sniff.

Anyone got any suggestions where to look first?

Smoke trail…Smoking gun.

Two nostrils two shot.

Gamma has no smoke.

Told you I never go Gamma.

Now with you claiming doctor that’s as hard an inno as you get.

[MathBlade]

Scorpious is likely town because I am a gunsmith.

[MathBlade]

Spoiler:

So, we went from

VC1.9
FugitiveMoose (2): Gamma Emerald, Meuh
MonkeyMan576 (2): Andresvmb, Roden
Andresvmb (2): Crescent, Dwlee99
Scorpious (2): Titus, MonkeyMan576
Titus (1): Scorpious
geraintm (1): Uncle Vanya

to VC10

MonkeyMan576 (3): ItalianoVD, Crescent, Roden
FugitiveMoose (2): Gamma Emerald, Meuh
ItalianoVD (2): Dwlee99, Uncle Vanya
Scorpious (2): Titus, MonkeyMan576

addition of Italiano and Crescent to the MM wagon

then next was Dwlee

VC12

MonkeyMan576 (3): ItalianoVD, Dwlee99, Carcalilly
Dwlee99 (3): Meuh, Gamma Emerald, FugitiveMoose
Scorpious (2): Titus, MonkeyMan576
Meuh (1): geraintm
Crescent (1): Scorpious

Crescent and Roden gone, replaced by Carcalily

and the final was

MonkeyMan576 (7): ItalianoVD, Dwlee99, Carcalilly, Crescent, Scorpious, Uncle Vanya, Gamma Emerald HAMMERED
Dwlee99 (2): Meuh, FugitiveMoose
Scorpious (1): Titus
Meuh (1): geraintm
Crescent (1): MonkeyMan576

Only VC today is

Votecount 2.1

Endless Migration (2009) - HotAirRaccoon

Scorpious

(3): Carcalilly, Gamma Emerald, Titus

Uncle Vanya

(1): Meuh

Not Voting

(7): FugitiveMoose, ItalianoVD, geraintm, Scorpious, Crescent, Dwlee99, Uncle Vanya
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to eliminate.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2022-05-19 22:33:37)
Titus V/LA Friday Evening - Monday Morning

with the overlap between the Scorpious push and yesterday being Carcalily and the Gamme hammer

while the deadline is close, id rather see what MM has to say, and for an official votecount before placing my vote anywhere.

I'm sure you will

VOTE: monkey

So, i am deeply suspicious of Carcalily, their vote on Scorpious today is...?

I vote for people I want dead. Simple.

Who do you want dead Carcalily?

[Scorp, Geraint, JV] is my pool at this moment in time.

Question to everyone:

Who would you jail tonight if you were me?

Italiano / Crescent

If I am right and Carca is scum then, scum wouldn’t want buddies jailed, so outside the hood is

Scorpio, G, Italiano, Crescent, Carca, Gamma, Dwlee.

Gamma is town
Scorpious is town by claim and Carca’s bad push.
G is in the scum pool, so possible
Crescent Carca wants jailed so unlikely scum partner.
Dwlee is possible scum partner

So Titus/Dwlee/Carca or Titus/G/Carca looks really likely.

There was a reason for that I was gonna check you.

I was hoping by being loud this wouldn’t be necessary and scum thought my loud VT and not a PR.

[Meuh]

Honestly I've read the pages I've missed and not gotten much from it. My brain just doesn't click with these back and forths. I'll try rereading later
Mathblade reads about the same as the game I spectated him in on a surface level.
I'm inclined to believe Titus over Scorpious if scum exists there. Doctor and jailkeeper, both town, seems unlikely.
PEdit: another claim?

[Crescent]

Why does a Gunsmith claim make a JK more likely than a Doctor?

Though this reminds me... I asked this before and didn't really get an answer: How common are scum RBs here? I've had one in like 95% of the games I've played.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: scorpious
yeah I'm thinking this is scum

What changed?

consideration of the nightkill kicked in
there was no real objective to that kill, dwlee posited it could have been PR hunting but in that case why not shoot the softclaim that I don't think anyone really trusted enough to protect?

This is a good question.

Assume Gamma is town, (which considering the hammer I think almost everyone should consider Gamma town), then if Gamma noticed a soft claim PR somewhere D1, why is that PR claim not dead?

Me claiming my result Gamma doesn’t have a gun

I do it a few more times if anyone cares

[MathBlade]

Why does a Gunsmith claim make a JK more likely than a Doctor?

Though this reminds me... I asked this before and didn't really get an answer: How common are scum RBs here? I've had one in like 95% of the games I've played.

Fake guilty to nerf town power and fake inno to swing for scum

Titus knew she died without it and wanted Scorpious dead
I knew I likely don’t get off another check
She decided to out to get utility.

[Crescent]

That train of thought is still off though.

DWlee was the first person to comment on the kill.

I'm the one who first voiced suspicion it was a power-hunt kill.

[JacksonVirgo]

Why does a Gunsmith claim make a JK more likely than a Doctor?

Though this reminds me... I asked this before and didn't really get an answer: How common are scum RBs here? I've had one in like 95% of the games I've played.

Fake guilty to nerf town power and fake inno to swing for scum

Titus knew she died without it and wanted Scorpious dead
I knew I likely don’t get off another check
She decided to out to get utility.

JK isn't a guilty to GS?

[MathBlade]

VOTE: scorpious
yeah I'm thinking this is scum

What changed?

consideration of the nightkill kicked in
there was no real objective to that kill, dwlee posited it could have been PR hunting but in that case why not shoot the softclaim that I don't think anyone really trusted enough to protect?

This is a good question.

Assume Gamma is town, (which considering the hammer I think almost everyone should consider Gamma town), then if Gamma noticed a soft claim PR somewhere D1, why is that PR claim not dead?

Roden noticed it first and publicly outed it
Also I’m curious why that hammer makes me town.

I don’t see scum!you making that hammer. You’re more reserved as scum so I don’t think you as scum do something so blatant. I mean there is the off chance you wanted to heal your meta but I don’t see scum you taking that shot or really even having the capability to.

Read this as “there’s an off chance you’re a doctor but I don’t see that”.

So gamma lock town based on Titus doc claim.

Your welcome.

[MathBlade]

Why does a Gunsmith claim make a JK more likely than a Doctor?

Though this reminds me... I asked this before and didn't really get an answer: How common are scum RBs here? I've had one in like 95% of the games I've played.

Fake guilty to nerf town power and fake inno to swing for scum

Titus knew she died without it and wanted Scorpious dead
I knew I likely don’t get off another check
She decided to out to get utility.

JK isn't a guilty to GS?

All scum have guns
All JKs have guns
Gunsmith says guns
Ergo fake guilty this was from our last game JV

[JacksonVirgo]

Why does a Gunsmith claim make a JK more likely than a Doctor?

Though this reminds me... I asked this before and didn't really get an answer: How common are scum RBs here? I've had one in like 95% of the games I've played.

Fake guilty to nerf town power and fake inno to swing for scum

Titus knew she died without it and wanted Scorpious dead
I knew I likely don’t get off another check
She decided to out to get utility.

JK isn't a guilty to GS?

All scum have guns
All JKs have guns
Gunsmith says guns
Ergo fake guilty this was from our last game JV

JKs are not a guilty to a gunsmith.

[JacksonVirgo]

[Meuh]

There was a reason for that I was gonna check you.

I was hoping by being loud this wouldn’t be necessary and scum thought my loud VT and not a PR.

...you purposely omitted me and said Italiano was non-hood because you were gonna check me?
also you aren't always this loud?

I'm perplexed

[Crescent]

Why does a Gunsmith claim make a JK more likely than a Doctor?

Though this reminds me... I asked this before and didn't really get an answer: How common are scum RBs here? I've had one in like 95% of the games I've played.

Fake guilty to nerf town power and fake inno to swing for scum

Titus knew she died without it and wanted Scorpious dead
I knew I likely don’t get off another check
She decided to out to get utility.

The only town roles I know of that scans guilty to gunsmith are cop and vig. Cop won't be in a game of 13 with Gunsmith and someone mentioned long ago that this host hates vigs and doesn't use them. Godfather-type roles are common, but not sure what would exist to give you a false positive specifically.

I can probably count on one hand how many gunsmiths I've seen in all my time playing, though. I'm not exactly the best place for Gunsmith meta.

[Crescent]

Oh.

So mafia doctor IS the "godfather" to gunsmith, then?

[MathBlade]

Jail keepers have guns. It’s been a long standing rule

The wiki is out of date

[Gamma Emerald]

fyi godfathers are explicitly banned in normals but false innos to non-cops are allowed