Open 853 - PYP X/Y S_S [game over!]

[Aristeia]

So youre not at all still interested in finding out the result of what you want to do?

this question implies that because I gave up on trying to get everyone to give me 3 numbers it means I wasn't really interested in what I wanted to do.

[Ausuka]

What even is the purpose of that, Ari? Would that help you read us? If not, shouldn't you be appealing to those who wouldn't answer or at least try and convince them?

@Ari; he wants you to pursue the line of questioning by appealing to people who refused to answer to do it

While it's not what I'd do in your position it's not an asshole thing to do imo and I don't think it's a scummy line of questioning for HEM to take particularly

Sorry if I'm being unhelpful btw since I know HEM is here and can speak for himself I'm just trying to de-intensify the situation I guess

[Aristeia]

you are saying that because I gave up on the number thing, I am scum who didn't really actually care about the number thing. y/n?

maybe, but i was trying to understand you so i asked. you immediately called me disgusting or something.

I understand subtext and what you're trying to imply about me.

[humaneatingmonkey]

yes it implies that because i think it. you did give up. i think it's because this ai-revealing stuff that you spent pages trying to collect was important to you. but you gave up. so i asked you about it.

[implosion]

This whole back and forth is deeply boring to me at this point. I don't really get much of a read on either of them from it.

[humaneatingmonkey]

was important to you

was not important

[humaneatingmonkey]

This whole back and forth is deeply boring to me at this point. I don't really get much of a read on either of them from it.

this is all you're going to get, so give us your thoughts.

[implosion]

I've given lots of thoughts and I will be giving more shortly!

[Aristeia]

I asked everyone for 3 numbers

most people ignored me, joke-answered, or didn't really take it seriously.

I tried to persuade people by saying it doesn't hurt them to give me 3 numbers because it's not like I can do anything bad with them even if I were scum here.

most people still ignored me

That's fine with me, I wasn't sure it was going to get anywhere or if the results would be really that useful, I've never done this type of numerical analysis in PYP before - I have thoughts about what scum would do in this situation given their TMI.

You then decided because I gave up, that implies I am mafia who "didn't really care about the numbers" in the first place.

It's a gross thing to say because the implication is that

town!me would care and triple down and be an asshole and force every person in this game to submit three numbers; hence me giving up on it implies I am mafia.

I am asking you to back up your implication by giving me an example where Town!me forced everyone to do exactly what she wanted right away when they didn't want to.

[implosion]

Thought 1: I would like Dwlee to take some stances on some people.

[Ausuka]

Thought 1: I would like Dwlee to take some stances on some people.

I was thinking this earlier, he had a scummy pop-in but I wanted to see if he would start scumhunting on his own if he was left alone

Not scumreading implosion anymore

[implosion]

i have to say this out loud but i want to ask other people what they feel about ari's position because right now all im seeing is manipulative scum

No

In particular while this isn't a bad post per se it feels a bit like a scummy pop in and I don't like that they have not given any reads at this point.

[implosion]

oh hey.

[implosion]

I was thinking this earlier, he had a scummy pop-in but I wanted to see if he would start scumhunting on his own if he was left alone

This is fair and probably the first thing from Ausuka that I think is actually pretty town-indicative.

[implosion]

Moreso for the "wanted to see if he would start scumhunting" thing than the mini-mind-meld on the phrase "scummy pop in"; I think it shows clearly that Ausuka did view that post that way but did opt not to do anything about it and I don't see much reason for scum to notice that and choose not to poke at it.

[Ausuka]

Thought 1: I would like Dwlee to take some stances on some people.

I was thinking this earlier, he had a scummy pop-in but I wanted to see if he would start scumhunting on his own if he was left alone

Not scumreading implosion anymore

*They sorry I should be much better about this

[humaneatingmonkey]

It's a gross thing to say because the implication is that town!me would care and triple down and be an asshole and force every person in this game to submit three numbers; hence me giving up on it implies I am mafia.

the way you refer yourself as town!me is still off to me but whatever

okay ari i just think this is a game and if that's really a gameplay that can get you your win condition, then it's not being an asshole it's gameplay.

[humaneatingmonkey]

whatever i can see the angle that it's a difference in playstyle

[humaneatingmonkey]

i still feel that ari reacted to me was overreactive, especially with the namecalling, but im just gonna let everyone comment on that

[Aristeia]

whatever i can see the angle that it's a difference in playstyle

?

you're analyzing my play to determine whether I am mafia.

you're not analyzing your own play to decide whether I am mafia.

if you want to say that me not being forceful = me being scum you should at least have examples of my townplay where I do force something like this thru or like some reason why town!me would force it through hence me not forcing it thru indicates it's scum!me?

[Dwlee99]

i have to say this out loud but i want to ask other people what they feel about ari's position because right now all im seeing is manipulative scum

No

In particular while this isn't a bad post per se it feels a bit like a scummy pop in and I don't like that they have not given any reads at this point.

Spoiler: video

[Aristeia]

okay ari i just think this is a game and if that's really a gameplay that can get you your win condition, then it's not being an asshole it's gameplay.

I've usually regretted tryharding to win games it never feels very good after the game is over.

[humaneatingmonkey]

that's why i asked. usually, i get the answers that way. what's gonna happen is someone's gonna read what you wrote and if you lied about how you present your meta someone's gonna notice and the fact that no one has backed it up is enough to me for now.

like what i get here is that it's possible you let go because you got frustrated — but it's also still possible you're scum that didn't really care for the results because your overreaction implies some crazy level of defensiveness. town!you not pursuing your experiment because you're anti-disgusting does nothing to alleviate my read on you. but at least some people are townreading you, and i might listen to them for a while.

i already have what i need from this conversation. are you set?

[Aristeia]

it didn't feel like you were asking because you are curious it felt like you were asking just to shade me

[humaneatingmonkey]

that's an interesting mindset. that's why i think you're defensive.