Micro 1055 - Trolled

[Radical Rat]

So, firstly, huge thanks to Meg and Flea for helping me to communicate more effectively while following my restriction.

Secondly, the problem I'm having today is such:
I'm not actually convinced Toogeloo is scum, BUT his decisions today have put us in such a tremendously bad position that I can't figure out why Town!Toog would do this. Literally if it weren't for having a known alignment distribution already I'd suspect Jester.

On the other hand, Enchant feels pretty Town to me. From my experience, I think the effort/explanation is less alignment indicative and more indicative of how much he's interested in the game.

Though I haven't actually gone through to reread (which I should do tbh), the vibes I'm getting here feel similar to how Enchant felt in Fusion U-Pick

[Radical Rat]

So yeah, if we must do the 1v1, and unfortunately Toog freezing means we must, I have to vote Toogeloo here.

Another thing worth noting is that if Toog IS Town here... Where are the scum votes? The only team that makes sense for me in that universe given the stalled wagon is Roden/Enchant, because otherwise why wouldn't scum just put him at E-1 and let Enchant take the hammer?

And while Roden's in my maybe pile... Enchant's a townread, as I've already said, so I'm not really comfortable betting on that.

[Enchant]

Literally yawned and we now have two ppl with punishments. It's actually hilariously bad.

Firstly, i am not saying Toog is 100% town, not in any case, but it's sadly likely. Malakittens is plainly worse. We are not really locked in 1vs1, i think it will be foolish thing for mafia to not vote and insist so there's no reason to just not vote Mala. Secondly, i remembered plurality exist so mafia need to find like two townies who vote someone else, to actually save teammate. Or well, vote me, it reguires only one townie, but you know how it will be sucking for them afterwards.
It's assuming we really vote Mala. Which you need to do. Do it.


Answering why mafia won't simple put someone on E-1 is simple fact that i don't always hammer. I actually consider if it's in worth, and therefore putting on E-1 is not instadeath. I also can be offline.
Getting heat for possibility to dispose of TownToog (and not instawinning) is not worthfully trade for scum, especially with other tools to aim elim, like insisting we are forced in 1vs1 anyway. I am not pointing finger at anyone yet, though, will look after elim, especially if i am somehow wrong.

Either way, i expect from everyone to vote malakittens or explain why not. We don't need to collect all 4 votes, we just need to pileup.


TLDR:

VOTE MALAKITTENS OR EXPLAIN WHY NOT

[Flea The Magician]

So yeah, if we must do the 1v1, and unfortunately Toog freezing means we must, I have to vote Toogeloo here.

Another thing worth noting is that if Toog IS Town here... Where are the scum votes? The only team that makes sense for me in that universe given the stalled wagon is Roden/Enchant, because otherwise why wouldn't scum just put him at E-1 and let Enchant take the hammer?

And while Roden's in my maybe pile... Enchant's a townread, as I've already said, so I'm not really comfortable betting on that.

We still have an out of the 1vs1, if it was enchant frozen on toogs as well then yeah we're locked in.

I was genuinely expecting more from both on the other.

That said, I am in the same position and if we are in the 1vs1, I'm inclined to go toogs because of the iso review I did and I wouldn't put it past them to pull a balls to the wall play like this.

[Flea The Magician]

Mala whats your restriction? Like everyone seems to have one bar you?

[Flea The Magician]

Also plz turn the cruise control off.

[Radical Rat]

We're stuck in the 1v1 because if Enchant/Toogeloo is TvT, then there are two scum in Me/Flea/Malakittens/Roden, which leaves only three Town actually available to vote. And if I were scum I definitely wouldn't be bussing here.

If either of Enchant/Toogeloo are scum, then we have the votes sure, but at that point it's a 50/50 shot compared to a 25/75 shot.

Although, now that I'm thinking on this, if Toogeloo is scum, the only possible partner is Malakittens. And if both Toogeloo and Enchant are Town, the team has to be Malakittens/Roden, because I know I'm Town, and I just do not see scum!Flea here. If Enchant is scum, the partner could be either Malakittens or Roden.

So Malakittens is present in all but one potential solve, and that's the one I find the least likely to actually be the case...

VOTE: Malakittens

Or this has all been an elaborate scum theater, in which case, well played

[Flea The Magician]

Theres no kill tonight, at least so we have some room for error at least...

VOTE: Malakittens

Lets do it.

[Malakittens]

I’m VLA until Friday morning until work calms the fuck down

Ps I’m flipping town

But i get it and understand why this is happening

Just lim toog later. I dont see scum flea & dont see scum RR. Idk about roden and I’m kinda liking enchant for town

[Malakittens]

Mala whats your restriction? Like everyone seems to have one bar you?

I dont have a restriction

[Malakittens]

Mala whats your restriction? Like everyone seems to have one bar you?

I dont have a restriction

I’m VT

[Roden]

I'm pretty sure Toog is mafia and I'd rather flip there. I feel stuck though because I feel like scum is turning the votes around to save him, but if I'm wrong and Mala flips red then I just look like her partner. Either scum is playing really well or I'm just bad and not paying attention, which tbh is possible.

Idk. I appreciate this game in concept but this feels a bit stacked against town.

VOTE: Malakittens

[Malakittens]

I’m flipping green.

VOTE: toog

Don’t succumb to peer pressure vote the scum

[Radical Rat]

I think Roden's vote was hammer

[Flea The Magician]

It was.
Does that change how you read anything?

[Enchant]

Probably, waiting for flips is most trollish thing in this game.

[Flea The Magician]

Welcome to the Twilight Zone.


definitely a troll lol

[Not Known 15]

Vote Count 2.FINAL

malakittens

takotsubo syndrome

Yume

(4)Enchant;Radical Rat;Flea the Magician;Roden;

Not Voting (1) malakittens;

Enchant (1)

Toogeloo;

Toogeloo

PookyTheMagicalBear

(0)

Roden (0)

Abstain (0)

Radical Rat (0)

Flea the Magician (0)

With 6 alive it is 4 to hammer after the first 48 hours of the day have passed.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2022-06-12 16:49:00), or earlier.

malakittens

was eliminated Day 2. Role PM:

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie

Your role: Vanilla: No role abilities. Your role has no hidden powers.
Your alignment: Town. No special abilities.

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least two town-aligned players are alive.

Night 2 begins and ends in (expired on 2022-06-11 07:48:00)

[Not Known 15]

Day 3 begins.

Vote Count 3.0

Not Voting (3)Enchant;Flea the Magician;Roden;

Abstain (1)

Radical Rat

;

Enchant (0)

Toogeloo

PookyTheMagicalBear

(0)

Roden (0)

Radical Rat (0)

Flea the Magician (0)

Toogeloo(Intent to vote after 48 hours have passed)

;

You do not have the hammer. This is a Dead Thread execution phase.

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2022-06-20 08:35:00), or earlier.

[Radical Rat]

You do not have the hammer. This is a Dead Thread execution phase.

Well THAT'S interesting...

[Radical Rat]

It was.
Does that change how you read anything?

I'm pretty sure Toog is mafia and I'd rather flip there. I feel stuck though because I feel like scum is turning the votes around to save him, but if I'm wrong and Mala flips red then I just look like her partner. Either scum is playing really well or I'm just bad and not paying attention, which tbh is possible.

Idk. I appreciate this game in concept but this feels a bit stacked against town.

VOTE: Malakittens

I'm pretty convinced this is scum.
Feels really weird that you'd go on about how you're sure Toog is Mafia, and scum is diverting to save him, then hammer the counterwagon anyway.

[Radical Rat]

Flea the Magician (0) Toogeloo(Intent to vote after 48 hours have passed);

Toogeloo, talk to me about this

[Enchant]

I blame not self for failing.
I blame everyone else for following me.

When i try to lead next time, punch me in face.

[Toogeloo]

Flea the Magician (0) Toogeloo(Intent to vote after 48 hours have passed);

Toogeloo, talk to me about this

My list is:

Flea
Enchant
Roden
Rat

Pretty sure this is Flea's scum game. I also still think Enchant is scum here.

[Flea The Magician]

Love to know how you're at that conclusion.
My game changes fairly regular based on mood and conditions.