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Post Post #3800 (ISO) » Sat Jun 25, 2022 2:37 pm

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In post 3790, Isis wrote:If faker is 99.9% that she has correctly read worst as mafia and I'm 90% sure I read coral as mafia isnt it most likely that Faker is mafia and the read is a simulation
If you're going to keep pushing that my read means I am more likely to be mafia shut up and vote me. It's incredibly annoying to have you ignore everything substantive I type and I greatly prefer that world to one where I waste more of my time trying to get you to vote correctly.
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Post Post #3801 (ISO) » Sat Jun 25, 2022 2:38 pm

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Post Post #3802 (ISO) » Sat Jun 25, 2022 2:40 pm

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Post Post #3803 (ISO) » Sat Jun 25, 2022 2:40 pm

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God my grammar in those posts were complete shit and borderline unreadable, sorry I was swimming in a fucking creek all day so I'm exhausted
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Post Post #3804 (ISO) » Sat Jun 25, 2022 2:49 pm

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In post 3778, Coral wrote:At the time I felt like this post was intentional repositioning, because she was previously healing me and Isis, was voting Fruit, and had recently voted Pav, but now seemed to be trying to realign herself. Looking back now, though, I can see how it would track for the most part, the one issue to me is the Fruit read. It really makes it strange to me that she would vote Fruit over Pav earlier, only to townread him once there wasn't any need for a counterwagon because we were doing the town leader thing.
I actually found that post to be quite odd and alarming - the reads didnt track with like anything ahe had posted prior, and there had recently been some mild suspicion of gl iirc, so ut read to me as another attempt to get a diff wagon going
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Post Post #3805 (ISO) » Sat Jun 25, 2022 2:50 pm

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Faker i'm not really convinced coral is mafia tbh
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Post Post #3806 (ISO) » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:02 pm

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In post 3796, Coral wrote:
In post 3794, Meuh wrote:I legitimately just follow momentum regardless of alignment, if people are saying something and it makes sense to me I'm just like "sure, why not".
if that's the case then it does make it difficult to see what are your own original thoughts and what are just reads of convenience. I understand following momentum from conftowns, I think they should be leading the elim for the most part, but I struggle to understand how that impacts your own conviction. if you have a read that isn't widely picked up on, do you tend to feel discouraged and less interested in pursuing that read?

what do you think at this point of your idea that limming faker+marci is a win 90% of the time?
Nopenope
imo Marci's scum like 15% of the time and Faker's scum like 45% of the time so I think it's less likely (these aren't like exact numbers but I think you get the point)
Cakez would be my preferred flip since I think he has the highest scum chance at this point

Also when it comes to my reads not getting picked up on and me dropping them, yeah. It's probably a bad habit of mine but if I have a read and it gets no momentum (or gets active pushback) often I'll just lose conviction in it :?
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Post Post #3807 (ISO) » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:03 pm

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Fwiw i'm also a little confused why you dropped me to vote cakez
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Post Post #3808 (ISO) » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:04 pm

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In post 3804, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3778, Coral wrote:At the time I felt like this post was intentional repositioning, because she was previously healing me and Isis, was voting Fruit, and had recently voted Pav, but now seemed to be trying to realign herself. Looking back now, though, I can see how it would track for the most part, the one issue to me is the Fruit read. It really makes it strange to me that she would vote Fruit over Pav earlier, only to townread him once there wasn't any need for a counterwagon because we were doing the town leader thing.
I actually found that post to be quite odd and alarming - the reads didnt track with like anything ahe had posted prior, and there had recently been some mild suspicion of gl iirc, so ut read to me as another attempt to get a diff wagon going
I don't recall the idea of gl scum getting any momentum
like I think it peaked somewhere in day 2 but even then I don't think it got serious consideration
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Post Post #3809 (ISO) » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:04 pm

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If I'm scum I just AFK vote you (Meuh) and escape unless my partner is exactly Cakez. No clue where that number comes from.
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Post Post #3810 (ISO) » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:05 pm

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In post 3807, skitter30 wrote:Fwiw i'm also a little confused why you dropped me to vote cakez
Cakez has partner equity with like everyone, you don't
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Post Post #3811 (ISO) » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:05 pm

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I guess if that 45% is taking into account the Cakez preflip sure, even though I don't think that makes sense either as I'm currently positioned to wagon Cakez as the most viable Coral alternative.
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Post Post #3812 (ISO) » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:09 pm

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In post 3809, Faker wrote:If I'm scum I just AFK vote you (Meuh) and escape unless my partner is exactly Cakez. No clue where that number comes from.
I mean 2 scum in a 5 person pool means everyone has a baseline 40% right? Marci actively reads like town to me so that already raises it for others, including you. Idk I'm not actively convinced you're scum but it's not really ruled out to me
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Post Post #3813 (ISO) » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:13 pm

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In post 3810, Meuh wrote:
In post 3807, skitter30 wrote:Fwiw i'm also a little confused why you dropped me to vote cakez
Cakez has partner equity with like everyone, you don't
Uh who do i not have partner equity with and why is thay the determining factor on who to vote for?
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Post Post #3814 (ISO) » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:14 pm

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In post 3791, Andante wrote:I thought you were TRing coral?
I typoed, others understood through the typo apparently
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Post Post #3815 (ISO) » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:19 pm

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Faker I've read your reasons for viewing duck as scum and thought about them. I do think your properly identified some behavior patterns that isolatedly scummier than rand.

Otoh corals play seems really good, and a lot of people whose rolecard I've peeked viewed the rep out as towny.

Idk maybe I should be more paranoid she didn't get cleared while wagoning
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Post Post #3816 (ISO) » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:20 pm

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Y'know if coral is scum, I doubt she is spending pokedollars on escape rope here.

You'd get to have my ear again tomorrow
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Post Post #3817 (ISO) » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:21 pm

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In post 3813, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3810, Meuh wrote:
In post 3807, skitter30 wrote:Fwiw i'm also a little confused why you dropped me to vote cakez
Cakez has partner equity with like everyone, you don't
Uh who do i not have partner equity with and why is thay the determining factor on who to vote for?
Marci, Faker, you don't have partner equity with
Cakez is possible
Coral also seemed possible, though I'd have to take a second look at you guys' back and forth

Also I feel like I've already talked about this several times so idk if I buy your confusion here

Being possible to be paired with a lot of people makes me feel like Cakez is scum in more scenarios and that makes limming him more appealing
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Post Post #3818 (ISO) » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:24 pm

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Since I was a tiny thing I wanted to be wary of dating a really pretty woman with no personality but nowadays wouldn't you know I feel like a really pretty girl with no personality ohoho how the turntables
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Post Post #3819 (ISO) » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:26 pm

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Maybe the game would benefit from Coral at least experiencing peril
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #3820 (ISO) » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:26 pm

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I'd feel bad about it though :cry:
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Post Post #3821 (ISO) » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:27 pm

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Dont a lot of people think i have equity with marci? (And even faker iirc?) Why dont you
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Post Post #3822 (ISO) » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:27 pm

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In post 3821, skitter30 wrote:Dont a lot of people think i have equity with marci? (And even faker iirc?) Why dont you
What question are you asking here
why don't I think she's scum?
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Post Post #3823 (ISO) » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:31 pm

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Why dont i have equity with marci or faker?
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Post Post #3824 (ISO) » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:35 pm

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I have opinionsss so I won't interrupt
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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