Scumleague FF 2022 (Season over, congrats Pooky/Poker/Peta)

[Kilgamayan]

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[Kilgamayan]

WRT changing PPR, hopefully there will be some way to rank opinions on it? Like, I would rather have 0.5 than 1, but I would rather have 1 than 0, and I can imagine a single-option future where people in support of PPR would split themselves across voting for 0.5 and 1 so that 0 accidentally gets the most votes as a result.

[D3f3nd3r]

Yeah I can do that

[Yiley]

If we are talking rule changes i feel like the consolation tournament should determine relegation, instead of being meaningless, if only selfishly, as that would have kept me in league 1 this year. i thought that it had in the past but that's probably my shit memory. but it makes sense to me

[D3f3nd3r]

In the past, it didn’t actually matter because we only had four teams make the playoffs. Yahoo only does a consolation bracket that’s the same size as the playoff bracket, so what happened was 5th thru 8th played in it and 9th thru 12th didn’t. I suppose there’s a chance we used consolation to determine the first alternate for promotion, but I don’t remember.

That’s going to be in the poll, though. I’m largely against having consolation matter but I don’t care that much as long as we all actually know about it coming in.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I like 6 team playoffs more anyway btw in a 12 team league

[D3f3nd3r]

I'm indifferent, but I think it's a better use of the extra week they added to the season last year than anything else. Will put that on the poll (which will probably go out tomorrow) though.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

6 team playoffs for first 6 and bottom 6

top 2 finishers in bottom 6 playoffs stay in league 1, other four get relegated?

[D3f3nd3r]

I mean that’s effectively what “Make consolation matter” would be, obviously taking into account any people that leave and require extra people to stay up

[pablito]

/in

[D3f3nd3r]

Rules poll is HERE, please fill this out in the next month or so if you want to make your voice heard!

(And there's still lots of time to sign up if you haven't already, the more people the better!)

[D3f3nd3r]

To be clear to whoever submitted the poll as vonflare, I’m going to be ignoring answers from people not playing in the league

Also yeah I’m probably going to be posting all (valid) submissions publicly so that if anyone is actually being impersonated they can tell me that

[PokerFace]

How will you handle ties in poll? I am on phone atm so I apologize if I missed that answer

[D3f3nd3r]

Will probably take the result with everybody not in L1 removed, and then just default to status quo if that isn't conclusive.

[PJ.]

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[D3f3nd3r]

Spoiler: Poll submissions by participants so far (if your name is on this list and you haven't filled out the poll, please tell me!)

Yiley
Pooky
LLD
Groose
Racefan
Pablito
Superbowl9
PEG
Kilga
Gamma
Sharon
PokerFace
PJ

Spoiler: Poll results so far

Number of Bench Slots: 10 votes no change, 5 votes reduce by one
PPR: Six votes for half PPR first preference, four votes for full PPR first preference, three votes for standard first preference
Playoff Size: 11 votes for six teams, 1 vote for four teams, 1 vote for eight teams
Playoff Reseeding: 7 votes no, 5 votes yes
Consolation Matters: 10 votes yes, 3 votes no (one yes voter said in the comments that they're actually indifferent)

Other comments:
Someone said they're against the fractional scoring for kickers thing - I figured that was relatively uncontroversial and didn't see anyone mention putting it in the poll...if lots of people post here and want me to change that back to "normal" I'll do that
Someone also suggested manually lowering waiver priority for consolation teams in the playoffs - I don't think that's doable since I think the only way to actually pull that off would be to manually adjust the waiver order at the start of the week (which I don't believe Yahoo lets me do, but please correct me if anyone knows better). Sucks because I like the idea.

(Disclaimer - I have not voted yet)

Polls are obviously still open, please get your opinions in if you haven't already. And the league isn't full either, still happy to take any new signups!

[D3f3nd3r]

Also I'm gonna go ahead and say that the deadline to sign up for the leagues is one month from today, on Friday, August 12, 2022, at the end of the day EDT. At that point I'll divvy up the leagues (and ask for L1 people to double up, if necessary) and send out league invites, then we can get Whenisgoods going to theoretically draft somewhere between like 8/26 and Labor Day.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

the fuck is fractional kicker shit

[Kilgamayan]

the fuck is fractional kicker shit

Under the setup L1 used last year, kickers got 0.1 point per yard for field goals made, rather than an integer number of points based on a yardage range. Under standard scoring, field goals of 22 yards, 46 yards, and 61 yards would be worth 3, 4, and 5 points, respectively; under L1's fractional kicker scoring, they were worth 2.2, 4.6, and 6.1 points, respectively.

I suggested this change last year, and it only passed by a single upvote. I wouldn't be offended if it got put back up to another vote, just in case opinions have changed. I enjoy the setup (let's ignore the fact that it resulted in me having the highest scoring kicker in the league >_>) but am not super attached to it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

the fuck is fractional kicker shit

Under the setup L1 used last year, kickers got 0.1 point per yard for field goals made, rather than an integer number of points based on a yardage range. Under standard scoring, field goals of 22 yards, 46 yards, and 61 yards would be worth 3, 4, and 5 points, respectively; under L1's fractional kicker scoring, they were worth 2.2, 4.6, and 6.1 points, respectively.

I suggested this change last year, and it only passed by a single upvote. I wouldn't be offended if it got put back up to another vote, just in case opinions have changed. I enjoy the setup (let's ignore the fact that it resulted in me having the highest scoring kicker in the league >_>) but am not super attached to it.

Mmm.... I kind of like capped points for ranges, but it does also _suck_ to lose by a point when you just barely fell outside the range for another point...

[D3f3nd3r]

I personally enjoyed it since it felt like it made kickers *slightly* more interesting, but my opinion on it is very weak.

(Also worth noting, PATs were still just 1 point)

[racefan12]

I'm for fractional FG scoring but don't care a whole lot about it either way

[Gammagooey]

I'm for fractional FG scoring but don't care a whole lot about it either way

same

[Groose Caboose]

Yeah I suggested axing it this year but I wouldn’t be upset if we kept it. It just made worrying about kickers slightly more important. I’m also more inclined to prefer settings that are closer to “standard” leagues so that there are less rules differences to keep track of when I’m playing in multiple leagues.

[PokerFace]

The only problem I have with fractional kicker is I think that kicks should always be worth at least 3. Like can we have the fractional stuff only effect kicks more than 30 yards?