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[Crescent]

Also, on a Gera note, pay attention to how Gera holds up over time. The entrance is weak, but also kinda whatever. Gera as scum in a game of 13 basically could not hold up for an entire game. By the time we were in day 3, he had regressed to near-total uselessness.

[Vivax]

Okay, what‘s his opinion on geraints entrance in your own words?

Seems that he believes geraintm was making pre-emptive excuses for his own play being lacking (game is larger, set-up is weird, implying he won't be able to keep track of what is going on) and UNOwen thought that was suspicious.

UNOwens ISO looks like I‘m the only other player in this game.
He‘d show interest into getting more out of gera if what you said was true.

[Prince of Paterson]

Okay, what‘s his opinion on geraints entrance in your own words?

Seems that he believes geraintm was making pre-emptive excuses for his own play being lacking (game is larger, set-up is weird, implying he won't be able to keep track of what is going on) and UNOwen thought that was suspicious.

UNOwens ISO looks like I‘m the only other player in this game.
He‘d show interest into getting more out of gera if what you said was true.

And how do you think you look? You ask him a question on another player. He gives you a reasonable answer. You misinterpret it and take it to be about you. Then, even after having the misinterpretation pointed out to you, you insist that he must have been refusing to answer you and that his answer was actually talking about you when it's a stretch to even believe that the comment could apply to you.

[Vivax]

Okay, what‘s his opinion on geraints entrance in your own words?

Seems that he believes geraintm was making pre-emptive excuses for his own play being lacking (game is larger, set-up is weird, implying he won't be able to keep track of what is going on) and UNOwen thought that was suspicious.

UNOwens ISO looks like I‘m the only other player in this game.
He‘d show interest into getting more out of gera if what you said was true.

And how do you think you look? You ask him a question on another player. He gives you a reasonable answer. You misinterpret it and take it to be about you. Then, even after having the misinterpretation pointed out to you, you insist that he must have been refusing to answer you and that his answer was actually talking about you when it's a stretch to even believe that the comment could apply to you.

Everything you said is provably false.
Keep digging or read more. Up to you.

[Prince of Paterson]

Does anyone else agree with Vivax's interpretation? This is a strange hill for him to choose to die on. I think it's a little towny to do so, though. Town often have a lot of pride in their own view of things.

[Vivax]

Does anyone else agree with Vivax's interpretation? This is a strange hill for him to choose to die on. I think it's a little towny to do so, though. Town often have a lot of pride in their own view of things.

I‘m not proud to the point where I refuse to cooperate with TRs and settle down for an elim I don‘t prefer.
But look around and tell me which townread of mine seems able to cooperate? I can maybe think of 2 or 3 that seem to know how to town while trying to find mafia.

[MegAzumarill]

This doesn't feel like a scum push from Vivax, but I don't quite get it.
Vivax can you resummarize why you think Unowen is scum

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: Meg

[Crescent]

Does anyone else agree with Vivax's interpretation? This is a strange hill for him to choose to die on. I think it's a little towny to do so, though. Town often have a lot of pride in their own view of things.

The vibe I'm getting is that he's trying too hard to make a case out of it because he wants it to be right.

[Vivax]

This doesn't feel like a scum push from Vivax, but I don't quite get it.
Vivax can you resummarize why you think Unowen is scum

That‘s the thing. I can‘t tell if he‘s an antagonist who goes on a personal tunnel as town because he‘s enraged for having been caught recently or if he‘s just mafia.

But for the mafia argument, I‘d say it‘s because he‘s giving too much importance to early post when the average townies mood was bored and eager for reactions.

That he didn‘t have that same mood to read early posts more nonchalantly like a majority betrays a mafia mindset.

[Crescent]

Again, Owen was not "caught". He made a blatant scumhammer as mafia-aligned and was probably planning to drag out day 2 to slow down the town. Once he flips aligned, you don't even get a lotta information about it. His plan obviously didn't include being vigged.

Owen knew exactly what he was doing with that hammer. This argument that he'd be "enraged" is dumb.

[Vivax]

Again, Owen was not "caught". He made a blatant scumhammer as mafia-aligned and was probably planning to drag out day 2 to slow down the town. Once he flips aligned, you don't even get a lotta information about it. His plan obviously didn't include being vigged.

Owen knew exactly what he was doing with that hammer. This argument that he'd be "enraged" is dumb.

Are you Owen? If you spent half the time trying to find a better launch rather than shielding him from having to answer, you‘d have a better chance of steering the game away feom the toüic.

[Vivax]

topic*

[Vivax]

And acting pro-town sometimes means just playing along someone‘s ideas and see what reactions it creates, rather than working to extinguish them.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

VOTE: UNOwen

[MegAzumarill]

:/

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Posts 21 and 22 suggest that MegAzumarill and Vivax are not both mafia.

Why?

Posts 21 to 22

I don't think this interaction is between two mafia members.

[MalcolmTucker]

Does anyone else agree with Vivax's interpretation? This is a strange hill for him to choose to die on. I think it's a little towny to do so, though. Town often have a lot of pride in their own view of things.

Vivax's early posts definitely feel very townie so far. Quite confrontational but not sure it's how mafia would approach early game necessarily.

[Lowell]

Is it Lowell time yet? Who we killin?

[Lowell]

Nevermind I see it.

VOTE: meg

This is an ISO read of someone who wanted to have a fun game but is disappointed to have drawn scum.

Malcolm also a good vote. Chipping at the edges of ideas without ideas.

[Firebringer]

This is Bailey posting mafia and I see no Bailey posts.
False advertising

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

how is meg still alive choo choo

[Fredrick A Campbell]

PookyTheMagicalBear
Post 4 - Town
Interaction with MegAzumarill (Post 171) suggests not both are mafia

UNOwen
Interaction with Vivax (Posts 106, 108, 119, 122-128, 134, 137-138) suggests not both are mafia

Vivax
Interaction with MegAzumarill (Posts 21-22) suggests not both are mafia
Vote hopping - Non Alignment Indicative
Post 33 - Town
Post 41 - Town
Interaction with UNOwen (Posts 106, 108, 119, 122-128, 134, 137-138) suggests not both are mafia

MegAzumarill
Interaction with MegAzumarill (Posts 21-22) suggests not both are mafia

[MegAzumarill]

how is meg still alive choo choo

I am a very sneaky goon.

[MegAzumarill]

Crescent/ Vivax / Prince are probably all town, in order of my confidence they are town.