Open 860 | Elected Decisions | Postgame

[Radical Rat]

Actually no, I think I will

VOTE: Divulge Greeting

Kitty makes me feel weird enough about Galron to not trust the wagon, and if Greeting does happen to flip red, that may help me with sorting out Frogsterking...

[Radical Rat]

I have typed out like three posts changing my vote again (Taly, back to Frog, back to Galron, now settling on Greeting again), so I am banning myself from the thread for at least a little while to give my brain time to calm down

[Fun Times]

@mod, please prod Penguin, Taly and Greeting. Penguin and Taly haven’t posted in 72 hrs and Greeting 48 hrs. Thank you.

[Roden]

It doesh't make me good choice.

You giving town leader (if i survive night) to most foolish person in the room.

@Roden, this is why I switched my vote.

PR doesn't mean town leader. I think he's best suited to have the PR since he's a general concensus town read who isn't particularly confident but has a couple specific reads. He has good game sense, but I don't think his day play is strong enough for him to make the pushes he wants to make. But if he's given a PR and rolls Vig or Cop then I think he's got a good chance of making an impact on the game.

I'd rather give you or Rat a PR as we get further into the game since you're town reads who have strong day play. If you're given a PR but get NK'd early, that's more of a loss than Enchant dying early.

[Roden]

VOTE: Divulge Galron

I keep going back and forth between preferring Greeting or Galron here. Settling on Galron because he's not V/LA and I think Kitty's right about it mostly being a win/win.

Though I also don't care much for Kitty just going "I'm Town" and dipping after being voted...

Actually no, I think I will

VOTE: Divulge Greeting

Kitty makes me feel weird enough about Galron to not trust the wagon, and if Greeting does happen to flip red, that may help me with sorting out Frogsterking...

I somewhat recently got snowed by scum!Kitty in the Potion game last month and I think his play this game so far feels similar to that. He's been passive, and the empty "I'm town" post he made earlier was the exact same kind of post he'd make in that game whenever he came under pressure.

Nancy and Enchant were in that game too, I'm wondering if they're seeing the same thing.

[RH]

@mod, please prod Penguin, Taly and Greeting. Penguin and Taly haven’t posted in 72 hrs and Greeting 48 hrs. Thank you.

Greeting is on V/LA so I won't prod him but I've prodded Penguin and Taly now.

Sorry for troubles. I'll check the Activity Overview more regularly from now on so expect this to never happen again.

[RH]

Day 1 Count VI

Divulgence

(HAMMERED) - Taly, Radical Rat, Galron, Fun Times, Roden, Frogsterking, KittyTacky

Departure

(LOCKED) - Greeting

Not Voting

- Bellaphant, Enchant, PenguinPower, RCEnigma

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Galron (-4) - Greeting, KittyTacky, Enchant
Frogsterking (-5) - Taly, Radical Rat
Greeting (-6) - Galron, Frogsterking
Taly (-6) - Roden

Not Voting

- Fun Times, Bellaphant, Galron, PenguinPower, RCEnigma

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Taly (-5) - Taly, KittyTacky
Radical Rat (-5) - Fun Times, Frogsterking
Enchant (-6) - Galron
Greeting (-6) - Greeting

Not Voting

- Bellaphant, Enchant, Galron, PenguinPower, RCEnigma, Radical Rat, Roden

Notes

• The combined mod ISO is here.
  
• Greeting is
  V/LA
  to 25 July.
  
• Taly is
  V/LA
  to 22 July.
  
• With 12 remaining, it takes 7 to form a majority.

The

Day

concludes in (expired on 2022-07-26 15:56:07).

I don't remember voting for Galron at any occasion. I voted Greeting.

Sorry.

I misread.

I've fixed it now.

[RH]

Day 1 Count VII

Divulgence

(HAMMERED) - Taly, Radical Rat, Galron, Fun Times, Roden, Frogsterking, KittyTacky

Departure

(LOCKED) - Greeting

Not Voting

- Bellaphant, Enchant, PenguinPower, RCEnigma

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Greeting (-2) - Galron, Frogsterking, Enchant, Bellaphant, Radical Rat
Galron (-4) - Greeting, KittyTacky
KittyTacky (-5) - Fun Times, Roden
Frogsterking (-6) - Taly

Not Voting

- PenguinPower, RCEnigma

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Fun Times (-5) - RCEnigma, Galron
Radical Rat (-5) - Fun Times, Frogsterking
Taly (-5) - Taly, KittyTacky
Enchant (-6) - Roden
Greeting (-6) - Greeting

Not Voting

- Bellaphant, Enchant, Galron, PenguinPower, Radical Rat

Notes

• The combined mod ISO is here.
  
• Greeting is
  V/LA
  to 25 July.
  
• With 12 remaining, it takes 7 to form a majority.

The

Day

concludes in (expired on 2022-07-26 15:56:07).

[Radical Rat]

KittyTacky do you have any scum reads?

You are my only concrete scumread, now that I think about it. I usually take a little while to start making lots of reads.

VOTE: Divulge Galron

I didn’t like Galron voting self-divulge. Saying feel free to divulge me reads +town but actually self-divulging when no one is even voting you or maybe only one other slot - seems a bit over the top to me. In any case, Galron told me to “blow him up” in NEP game, correctly calculating I would obviously be hesitant to do so. That shit only works once on me.

~N

Yeah, outright asking to be divulged could be a mafia WIFOM play. The more I think about it, the more likely he's scum.

I meant frog!scum not Galron!scum but the quote is still being taken out of context and it’s by multiple slots so I may not be explaining well.

I think Kitty throwing reads out without depth is typical of their scum game so they would be an ideal candidate to learn the alignment of. With that in mind I don’t think I’m the hypothetical world where kitty is scum, that frogster would be pressuring a partner (kitty) into expanding those reads the way that they are. So I am positing that I DO NOT think they are scum together. But I have suspicions about each individually.

I'm fine with being divulged so my admittedly poor play doesn't become a distraction to town.

Like I know I'm town so it's not ideal but I wouldn't complain.

Boy does that sure look interesting.

I'm back with a clear head, decided to ISO Kitty since that's where a lot of my thoughts kept returning, and... This struck me.

VOTE: Divulge KittyTacky
This will probably be my final divulgence vote for today, so moving on to heals...

[Galron]

So what do you see scummy there Rad? More so than Greeting anyway?

[Radical Rat]

If we divulge correctly, the PR will be the biggest target for an NK, unless scum chicken out at the 1/12 chance PGO. So ideally, we should heal a strong townread that we also are okay with dying which.... Is no one, really.

Also for that reason I am wary of the self-healers. Seems weird they'd be signing up to die, but at the end of the day someone has to do it.

I guess who feels most confident in aiming a roleblock/JK shot if they get lucky?

[Radical Rat]

So what do you see scummy there Rad? More so than Greeting anyway?

What I see scummy is that he accused you of being suspicious for doing something he himself did earlier. Reads like he forgot he'd said that, and then tried to use it as a made up excuse to push you.

[Fun Times]

It doesh't make me good choice.

You giving town leader (if i survive night) to most foolish person in the room.

@Roden, this is why I switched my vote.

PR doesn't mean town leader. I think he's best suited to have the PR since he's a general concensus town read who isn't particularly confident but has a couple specific reads. He has good game sense, but I don't think his day play is strong enough for him to make the pushes he wants to make. But if he's given a PR and rolls Vig or Cop then I think he's got a good chance of making an impact on the game.

I'd rather give you or Rat a PR as we get further into the game since you're town reads who have strong day play. If you're given a PR but get NK'd early, that's more of a loss than Enchant dying early.

Well the PR also has a chance to get bp or two shot PGO, so you’d have to weigh that in as well. I actually think I’m less likely to die N1 if it’s me unless PR gets doc and protects me.

~N

[Fun Times]

VOTE: Divulge Galron

I keep going back and forth between preferring Greeting or Galron here. Settling on Galron because he's not V/LA and I think Kitty's right about it mostly being a win/win.

Though I also don't care much for Kitty just going "I'm Town" and dipping after being voted...

Actually no, I think I will

VOTE: Divulge Greeting

Kitty makes me feel weird enough about Galron to not trust the wagon, and if Greeting does happen to flip red, that may help me with sorting out Frogsterking...

I somewhat recently got snowed by scum!Kitty in the Potion game last month and I think his play this game so far feels similar to that. He's been passive, and the empty "I'm town" post he made earlier was the exact same kind of post he'd make in that game whenever he came under pressure.

Nancy and Enchant were in that game too, I'm wondering if they're seeing the same thing.

Yeah, I think it definitely could be and the fact that you’re seeing that too makes me feel more confident that I’m likely right.

He’s also currently still healing a slot that hasn’t posted in over 3 days now and he also ignored all of my questions. That’s what makes the “I’m town” response look particularly bad.
~N

[Enchant]

VOTE: Kitty
HEAL: Enchant

Imo, it results in me dying like 99%.

[Radical Rat]

It doesh't make me good choice.

You giving town leader (if i survive night) to most foolish person in the room.

@Roden, this is why I switched my vote.

PR doesn't mean town leader. I think he's best suited to have the PR since he's a general concensus town read who isn't particularly confident but has a couple specific reads. He has good game sense, but I don't think his day play is strong enough for him to make the pushes he wants to make. But if he's given a PR and rolls Vig or Cop then I think he's got a good chance of making an impact on the game.

I'd rather give you or Rat a PR as we get further into the game since you're town reads who have strong day play. If you're given a PR but get NK'd early, that's more of a loss than Enchant dying early.

Well the PR also has a chance to get bp or two shot PGO, so you’d have to weigh that in as well. I actually think I’m less likely to die N1 if it’s me unless PR gets doc and protects me.

~N

Why would you be less likely to die as the PR?

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: kittytacky

HEAL: Fun Times

[Greeting]

As promised, I am back from my V/LA before the scheduled EoD 1. I have no objections towards Divulging myself for the good of the game, although I treat being Divulged as a death sentence. Which is why, if possible, I would like to divulge a slot that cannot be towncleared in any other way.

Can you elaborate more on Roden? I often have trouble reading him but yeah he could be town here.

~N

Roden

had a good, pro-town observation in 15 and 18, which I seconded and openly supported. I don't think a mafia would have made such an observation, when it's clear that they can nullify the Divulge effect by killing off pretty much any outed townie the following Day.

He also got upset at being suspected, which is what

Roden

does when he's town (343). Townies get angry at being suspected very often, but

Roden

does it always. Having these two in mind, I was happy to townclear him for the purpose of Day 1.

[Greeting]

I'm down to divulge Greeting as well, the reads in 469 look kind of fake and their first post was scummy. If Roden or Greeting are divulged today then I'll be satistied.

Why do you think my observations are fake? Was your anti-town rampage in KTaNE bomb solving thread not a fact? If this is the kind of meta from you that I'm acquainted with, how do you expect me not to be paranoid when you're being straightforward?

[Greeting]

I don't feel like healing

Radical Rat

and don't really see what's so towny about them. I would rather give a PR to someone who's almost certainly town.

HEAL: Fun Times

[Greeting]

I'm down to divulge any of Radical Rat, Greeting, and Roden, with my preference being Roden. I don't like how Roden reacted to my push. I think my interaction with them is AI that we're TvS.

This is such a bad faith push. Not so much on me nor

Radical Rat

, but

Roden

doesn't get any townier than this.

Down to divulge

Frogsterking

instead of

Galron

.

[KittyTacky]

I see a Galron wagon as a win/win.

Do you think scum!Galron would want to divulge Greeting who is pushing him?

~N

What do you think of Kitty not responding to this?

He also didn’t respond to my other question either.

~N

I didn't respond because I missed those questions.

I see a Galron wagon as a win/win.

Do you think scum!Galron would want to divulge Greeting who is pushing him?

~N

Not sure of that, but scum can do that push for cred and divert the wagon if it becomes disadvantageous.

If Galron is scum, we get a guaranteed scum hang tomorrow (or kill on scum this night if the random PR is vig).

If Galron is town, scum is forced to kill what used to be a fairly suspicious slot or let a confirmed townie live.

See, I don’t like this, because Kitty’s still healing Taly not me.

Because I don’t believe for one second that Kitty thinks town!Galron ever dies over us.

~N

1. I forgor to switch my heal vote.
2. Why not?
HEAL: Fun Times

[KittyTacky]

Yea I don't know. What do you think about it?

It makes me think of OMB where he was frozen scum.

Of course if he answers my my questions satisfactorily like Bella, I’ll obviously reacess but if Bella had just responded, “I’m town” and made no attempt to try to respond to any of mine or Andante’s questions, I’d still be voting her. And she was feeling ill att and she still tried to answer.

And considering Kitty has a tvt read on both of us, why not heal an active tr over a slot that hasn’t been active for more than 48 hrs?

My point being, if Kitty cared so much about voting divulge, why doesn’t he care more about heal?

I very much doubt that if Taly doesn’t start active posting very soon, they’re extremely likely to be the heal, do you?

~N

What do you mean TvT, I think Galron is likely scum.

[KittyTacky]

VOTE: Divulge Galron

I keep going back and forth between preferring Greeting or Galron here. Settling on Galron because he's not V/LA and I think Kitty's right about it mostly being a win/win.

Though I also don't care much for Kitty just going "I'm Town" and dipping after being voted...

What the fuck would I say other than that? I'm VT like everyone else. My townread on FT didn't diminish due to the vote so I didn't push them.

[KittyTacky]

KittyTacky do you have any scum reads?

You are my only concrete scumread, now that I think about it. I usually take a little while to start making lots of reads.

VOTE: Divulge Galron

I didn’t like Galron voting self-divulge. Saying feel free to divulge me reads +town but actually self-divulging when no one is even voting you or maybe only one other slot - seems a bit over the top to me. In any case, Galron told me to “blow him up” in NEP game, correctly calculating I would obviously be hesitant to do so. That shit only works once on me.

~N

Yeah, outright asking to be divulged could be a mafia WIFOM play. The more I think about it, the more likely he's scum.

I meant frog!scum not Galron!scum but the quote is still being taken out of context and it’s by multiple slots so I may not be explaining well.

I think Kitty throwing reads out without depth is typical of their scum game so they would be an ideal candidate to learn the alignment of. With that in mind I don’t think I’m the hypothetical world where kitty is scum, that frogster would be pressuring a partner (kitty) into expanding those reads the way that they are. So I am positing that I DO NOT think they are scum together. But I have suspicions about each individually.

I'm fine with being divulged so my admittedly poor play doesn't become a distraction to town.

Like I know I'm town so it's not ideal but I wouldn't complain.

Boy does that sure look interesting.

I'm back with a clear head, decided to ISO Kitty since that's where a lot of my thoughts kept returning, and... This struck me.

VOTE: Divulge KittyTacky
This will probably be my final divulgence vote for today, so moving on to heals...

Look at my meta, mate.

I'm fine with being divulged. But keep in mind that I am

always

a day miller as town. English is not my first language and I have Asperger's so I am tonally weird.