Mini Normal 2277 - Frog Images (Game Over)

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honestly t3 is my first actual actual townread

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only thing that bothers me is the suspicion of me but whatever lol

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honestly t3 is my first actual actual townread

cool!

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Crescent repeatedly attempting to undermine the Galron wagon makes me think she could be scum, if Galron is but Sean/Eir isnt

I wouldn't say I've undermined the wagon, but I have questioned it. Three of the votes on that wagon are objectively very weak (Mala, Red, and Kitty), and the votes include 3 of the 4 lowest posters in the entire game.

And it's weird for you to jump to that conclusion because you know I question

everything

. You should know enough to be worried if I

didn't

question it.

The votes on Galron being lazy doesn’t mean that Galron isn’t scum. Galron could be scum and the votes are either bussing or lazy town, Galron could be town and the votes could be scum jumping on a wagon or lazy town. I do think that Galron is scum, and I think that KT is bussing Galron based on their interactions. The others votes on Galron aren’t necessarily AI.

This is exactly what I said yesterday: Galron is likely scum, there's a good chance one scum is on him, and it's likely KT if there is.

But my bigger concern isn't even precisely that. If Galron is scum, KT's vote on him looks worst. If he's town, Mala's vote on him looks worst. I am not convinced he's scum, and I see a scenario with either flip that reflects poorly with on one of those two. The play is to pressure both, so whatever flip we do get, we have answers before we get it.

And for the record, Mala's vote doesn't feel like a bus at all, and KT's vote doesn't feel like scum voting town at all. I think the likelihood of one being town also goes up regardless of the flip.

Oh also for some reason I thought there were like 50 new posts. The hell number did I think this ended at last night.

T3 town and haschel a little, I like people that come to similar conclusions as me. though I don't really know what to feel about crescent like, I just wanna point out that the above post includes the phrase "galron is likely scum" and "I'm not convinced he's scum" but also like... it's a good line of reasoning, there's some good questioning going on here, I definitely also want to see more from these two, specifically some scumreads from both of them, and a response to my accusation of townreading too many people. gives me the HEEBIEJEEBIES

[KittyTacky]

kittytacky can I get some insight into your reads beyond galron?

Seanzie town, Crescent town, Mala slightly town. Gamma probably town too.

that's a lot of town reads

Because there are a lot of townies?

[KittyTacky]

Oh and Mala/KT can you explain your reads because you're apparently both townreading me and... Each other.

This early I read mostly on gut.

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Catching up now. I doubt Galron gets eliminated here D1 if they're scum.

crescent how does this post make you feel? not in your head, but in your heart

[KittyTacky]

I'm uncomfortable with how many townreads kt has and how little analysis is happening in any of his posts, but crescent is pinging the fuck out of me too and I don't know if this is scum on scum or what

You never played with me. I tend to make a lot of gut/tone reads early.

[redcardinal]

Oh and Mala/KT can you explain your reads because you're apparently both townreading me and... Each other.

This early I read mostly on gut.

good, any gut scum?

[KittyTacky]

kittytacky is the kind of maf you wanna vote out last because his attempts to turn around on townreading the whole town are going to be hilarious

I'm not mafia so I'm not going to turn around on townreading anyone unless they scumslip.

Oh and Mala/KT can you explain your reads because you're apparently both townreading me and... Each other.

This early I read mostly on gut.

good, any gut scum?

I don't scumread on gut, I scumread on evidence.

[redcardinal]

kittytacky is the kind of maf you wanna vote out last because his attempts to turn around on townreading the whole town are going to be hilarious

I'm not mafia so I'm not going to turn around on townreading anyone unless they scumslip.

Oh and Mala/KT can you explain your reads because you're apparently both townreading me and... Each other.

This early I read mostly on gut.

good, any gut scum?

I don't scumread on gut, I scumread on evidence.

so you don't scumread anyone d1?

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whooooooo do you scumread I wanna know

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because if it's really truly nobody I cannot possibly believe you're town

[KittyTacky]

kittytacky is the kind of maf you wanna vote out last because his attempts to turn around on townreading the whole town are going to be hilarious

I'm not mafia so I'm not going to turn around on townreading anyone unless they scumslip.

Oh and Mala/KT can you explain your reads because you're apparently both townreading me and... Each other.

This early I read mostly on gut.

good, any gut scum?

I don't scumread on gut, I scumread on evidence.

so you don't scumread anyone d1?

Evidence can be a really scummy action. Like what Galron is doing RN.

This weird pushing on me smells like a chainsaw defense of Galron NGL.

whooooooo do you scumread I wanna know

Galron and you. Your role PM is as red as the bird you are named after.

[KittyTacky]

I hate this chainsaw and the weird passive-aggressive tone on it.

[KittyTacky]

Crescent repeatedly attempting to undermine the Galron wagon makes me think she could be scum, if Galron is but Sean/Eir isnt

I wouldn't say I've undermined the wagon, but I have questioned it. Three of the votes on that wagon are objectively very weak (Mala, Red, and Kitty), and the votes include 3 of the 4 lowest posters in the entire game.

And it's weird for you to jump to that conclusion because you know I question

everything

. You should know enough to be worried if I

didn't

question it.

The votes on Galron being lazy doesn’t mean that Galron isn’t scum. Galron could be scum and the votes are either bussing or lazy town, Galron could be town and the votes could be scum jumping on a wagon or lazy town. I do think that Galron is scum, and I think that KT is bussing Galron based on their interactions. The others votes on Galron aren’t necessarily AI.

Elaborate on those interactions then.

[KittyTacky]

I'm guessing Frogster is Kiri because it's both characters from the same game.

I found KT's vote to be over-the-top performative, and KT popped back to defend it but.. Still is lacking in actual content.

Tell me how I would defend a sheeped vote?

It's not the vote that bothered me - It's the post after the vote. It feels like it's drawing way too much attention to "look I voted scum" that it feels like S/S to me.

You did say it was normal for you to ham it up. Can you give me any examples?

...my basically every other game? I was pretty hammy in Mini Normal 2267, for example.

[redcardinal]

kittytacky is the kind of maf you wanna vote out last because his attempts to turn around on townreading the whole town are going to be hilarious

I'm not mafia so I'm not going to turn around on townreading anyone unless they scumslip.

Oh and Mala/KT can you explain your reads because you're apparently both townreading me and... Each other.

This early I read mostly on gut.

good, any gut scum?

I don't scumread on gut, I scumread on evidence.

so you don't scumread anyone d1?

Evidence can be a really scummy action. Like what Galron is doing RN.

This weird pushing on me smells like a chainsaw defense of Galron NGL.

whooooooo do you scumread I wanna know

Galron and you. Your role PM is as red as the bird you are named after.

no fucking way you actually believe I'm bussing galron

[redcardinal]

why is my questioning of you weird? you say you think someone (me) is bussing him, why wouldn't I think the same of you?

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kittytacky is the kind of maf you wanna vote out last because his attempts to turn around on townreading the whole town are going to be hilarious

I'm not mafia so I'm not going to turn around on townreading anyone unless they scumslip.

do you agree that you usually do that when you're mafia

This weird pushing on me smells like a chainsaw defense of Galron NGL.

well if you're going to try to push the people pushing galron you'd have a lot of work to do

[redcardinal]

I want to sit on galron for a few days and see what happens, give the people who haven't said much time to weigh in. galron, what's your take on seanzie?

I guess after thinking about it I can kind of see the reaction test thing but I'm still not sure why the "this is a non-RVS vote." It sounds almost like the latter was trying to distract from the former. But overall they're slightly townie I guess. I mean I can at least follow them to a point.

awesome, appreciate it how about kittytacky?

this post right here was me suspecting something between you and galron, and t3 picked up on the response galron had the same way I did

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I smell scum in kittytacky holy golly darn gosh

[redcardinal]

I hate this chainsaw and the weird passive-aggressive tone on it.

I am in no way defending galron, at this point barring the lack of anything from eater and what I want from mala I'm happy if galron got hammered right now

[KittyTacky]

kittytacky is the kind of maf you wanna vote out last because his attempts to turn around on townreading the whole town are going to be hilarious

I'm not mafia so I'm not going to turn around on townreading anyone unless they scumslip.

Oh and Mala/KT can you explain your reads because you're apparently both townreading me and... Each other.

This early I read mostly on gut.

good, any gut scum?

I don't scumread on gut, I scumread on evidence.

so you don't scumread anyone d1?

Evidence can be a really scummy action. Like what Galron is doing RN.

This weird pushing on me smells like a chainsaw defense of Galron NGL.

whooooooo do you scumread I wanna know

Galron and you. Your role PM is as red as the bird you are named after.

no fucking way you actually believe I'm bussing galron

I mean you could be. I just really dislike your attempt at discrediting me that you framed as questioning.

why is my questioning of you weird? you say you think someone (me) is bussing him, why wouldn't I think the same of you?

Because of the tone and sudden turnaround from Galron to me. Good way to divert attention from your scumbuddy.

kittytacky is the kind of maf you wanna vote out last because his attempts to turn around on townreading the whole town are going to be hilarious

I'm not mafia so I'm not going to turn around on townreading anyone unless they scumslip.

do you agree that you usually do that when you're mafia

Yes I turn around on townreads as mafia.

This weird pushing on me smells like a chainsaw defense of Galron NGL.

well if you're going to try to push the people pushing galron you'd have a lot of work to do

Not everyone.

I hate this chainsaw and the weird passive-aggressive tone on it.

I am in no way defending galron, at this point barring the lack of anything from eater and what I want from mala I'm happy if galron got hammered right now

Then act like it instead of baselessly accusing another Galron pusher of bussing. You don't know how I push people at all.

[KittyTacky]

You don't seem to be doing a lot of Galron pushing after you started accusing me of bussing.