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[Ausuka]

Votecount 1.10

Galron (4)

- Gamma Emerald, Malakittens, Haschel Cedricson, KittyTacky

Malakittens (2)

- UltimateDetectiveKiriGiri, redcardinal

Crescent (1)

- Galron

Eiralox (1)

- schadd_

KittyTacky (1)

- Seanzie

Seanzie (1)

- EATEROFTIME

Not Voting (3)

- Crescent, Eiralox, T3

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to decide an elimination. Deadline is in (expired on 2022-08-06 01:33:48).

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[T3]

the thing about it is i have this sinking feeling that this is like a townie who is thinking of punishing everyone for voting a low content slot, or like otherwise proceeding out of spite. one does have to consider that openly refusing to budge on or really address the large amt of people voting them, but (just to articulate it for myself!) i do get the strong feeling that they're scum who doesn't know where to go from here, maybe thinks something like "once i start having to pretend to scumhunt everybody is gonna use terms like 'TMI' and 'fake' at me and its gonna suck so bad". galron if youre scum that is probably true yes. and then also you just vote out people who dont play mafia

I'm just frustrated. GAmma is playing anti-town and no one has pointed it out. His stated reason for dogging me is for his personal satisfaction. I think town Gamma wants to hit a home run by calling his shot in his first post, before I even got here. It's clear to me. Scum gamma of course just wants me deadl but I don't think gamma is scum tbh. Gamma is seasoned enough scum not to ride a horse from starting line to finish. I mean I gave content in my very first post, a few fluff posts after that, and then I played straight up. Under the pressure of at least 8-9 people confbiasing me. Really I'm idle out doing something for 6-8 hours and I'm frozen? WTF is that. Do I think there are scum voting me? Yes. Here I am with a confirmable roll as shitty as it is, and I have 12 people scum reading me. So yeah I'm thinking nothing I say is going to make a difference. I don't care if I'm scumread. As I said I get scumread early and often. What pisses me off is there are only 2-3 players looking at this through some sort of objective lens. Mala and Kitty both stink here.

pedit: I'm at e-1 I'm a town backup neighbor. Do what you want with that.

Also crescent you've used the incorrect pronouns with at least two peple

Interesting. Backup Neighbor seems like an odd role.

[Crescent]

Honestly my one core issue still has not changed. It still feels like surface level posting. Galron has been parked on the same RVS vote since post #42, and has never once earnestly pursued another player to be scum.

[T3]

I want mala's fresh scumreads before you die

Wtf is up with you soloing me out

Ngl I like to townblock and then POE from there

So I got lots of towngutvibes

This seems like an overreaction. You’re being soloed out because you’ve barely posted anything of substance. And yes, I also like to townblock and then POE from there. But I actually justify my townreads?

[T3]

I want mala's fresh scumreads before you die

Wtf is up with you soloing me out

Ngl I like to townblock and then POE from there

So I got lots of towngutvibes

Why you got soloed out:

You had 8 posts, a guy you were voting was -1, and you've... Kinda contributed absolutely nothing outside of that vote.

Yeah, we’re on the same page here. If Galron is town, do you think that Mala should be limmed next?

[Crescent]

I'm not sure. She overreacted last night in a way that inexplicably town vibed me. Definitely would need to be pressured, though.

[Crescent]

Oh and to further that Galron issue I specifically have, he now has 59 posts. It's worse than just not hunting for scum. I just tried to remember who he's ever given a town read to and failed.

I then quick scanned his ISO to see if one existed, and it doesn't. The closest thing he has to stating a read on anyone is calling Gamma both town and scum in the post he claimed.

There is virtually no serious content in these 59 posts. Simple questions to other players but never anything resembling actual pressure or reads on anyone.

[T3]

I would be very, very hesitant to stop pressuring Galron here. Backup Neighbor at this point isn’t an AI claim, nor is it a role that could have a lot of effect on the game.

[T3]

You don't seem to be doing a lot of Galron pushing after you started accusing me of bussing.

I do want to hear where this thought comes from, as just last night he went after me because he misread my posts and thought I was defending him.

ooooooh if this is referring to me my pronouns are she/her

I think it's referring to me.

kittytacky can I get some insight into your reads beyond galron?

Seanzie town, Crescent town, Mala slightly town. Gamma probably town too.

Why am I town?

Gut and your response to pressure.

Good nyaight.

What was townie about my response to pressure?

It smelled very townie.

Remember when you said that you don’t like to read based on guy

[T3]

You don't seem to be doing a lot of Galron pushing after you started accusing me of bussing.

I do want to hear where this thought comes from, as just last night he went after me because he misread my posts and thought I was defending him.

ooooooh if this is referring to me my pronouns are she/her

I think it's referring to me.

kittytacky can I get some insight into your reads beyond galron?

Seanzie town, Crescent town, Mala slightly town. Gamma probably town too.

Why am I town?

Gut and your response to pressure.

Good nyaight.

What was townie about my response to pressure?

It smelled very townie.

Remember when you said that you don’t like to read based on gut

[T3]

You’re barely even pushing Galron, you posted an obviously performative vote on him a few days ago. If scum were going to chainsaw defend Galron, wouldn’t they just push someone who is going after Galron more aggressively?

Nah. I don’t believe you actually think that redcardinal is chainsawing you.

"Barely pushing" WTF are you talking about.

Also I mostly got mad at red because of their really annoying tone so I said things I didn't mean to say.

There’s a difference between actively campaigning to get someone limmed and just scumreading them.

[T3]

Alright, I’m (finally ) caught up.

[T3]

I don’t have much of a read on Haschel or schadd_. I’m going to read through Galron’s ISO in my scumgame with him.

[Ausuka]

Enchant replaces EATEROFTIME.

[Enchant]

[Enchant]

I catched up (didn't read anything), can as well end day.

[Crescent]

Oh also I said last night I didn't smell like Kitty was doing some elaborate setup to mess with us.

If there's one thing I

do

smell a potential "set up" on, its Sean voting Galron -1, Galron almost immediately claiming, and Sean quickly voting back onto KT as his only immediate reaction. I do not like his reaction to Gamma's retort when he attempted to use the claim to call Galron town, and I feel like he's still pushing an angle where Kitty is scum and Galron is town, despite giving no good reasons to call Galron town.

Sean was never sold on Galron being scum (notably he pushed the Kitty/Galron S/T thought before this). and the -1 vote kinda comes out of nowhere.

I said last night I could conceivably see Town Kitty with Scum Galron. If that scenario is the case, I think Sean is scum.

[Crescent]

You now already have as many posts as the guy you replaced.

[Enchant]

Finally i beat someone in activity.

[redcardinal]

why is galron's vote still on crescent

[redcardinal]

okay I mean I know why it's because he's scum
enchant, want some time to read the thread or do you wanna read it at night?

[Seanzie]

Oh also I said last night I didn't smell like Kitty was doing some elaborate setup to mess with us.

If there's one thing I

do

smell a potential "set up" on, its Sean voting Galron -1, Galron almost immediately claiming, and Sean quickly voting back onto KT as his only immediate reaction. I do not like his reaction to Gamma's retort when he attempted to use the claim to call Galron town, and I feel like he's still pushing an angle where Kitty is scum and Galron is town, despite giving no good reasons to call Galron town.

Sean was never sold on Galron being scum (notably he pushed the Kitty/Galron S/T thought before this). and the -1 vote kinda comes out of nowhere.

I said last night I could conceivably see Town Kitty with Scum Galron. If that scenario is the case, I think Sean is scum.

I think this is a bit disingenuous. The only reason I've been talking about Kitty/Galron being s/t is because others (idr if it was you or someone else) were pushing the (imo incorrect) idea that Kitty/Galron are always s/s or t/t, so I was responding directly to that argument, not arguing Kitty/Galron being s/t is more likely than s/s, just that it is a possible world.

As for my vote, I was bored yesterday, so I wanted the day to end (I'm more used to 48/24 plurality elim games), and Galron seemed like a reasonable target. Their claim gave me pause though, so I moved back to whom I thought was a better elim. You're right I've given no good reasons to call Galron town, because I have no good reasons to do that - I have NOT argued that Galron must be town because I don't believe that, but saying Galron/Kitty cannot be t/s is BS, and I HAVE argued that.

[Enchant]

okay I mean I know why it's because he's scum
enchant, want some time to read the thread or do you wanna read it at night?

I don't plan to read, unless there's something important you want me to show.

[Crescent]

okay I mean I know why it's because he's scum
enchant, want some time to read the thread or do you wanna read it at night?

I don't plan to read, unless there's something important you want me to show.

Also, I'm a Kitty. Meow.

[Crescent]

Oh and you also being used to 48/24 like me does make the Galron vote more understandable. 14 day-long days are kinda ridiculous.