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[Eiralox]

ah i'm guessing ur one of those folk love putting words in ppls mouths and thinking u know why they do things better then they do. at this point i dont care if ur town im voting u cos u annoy me.

kay this is a bit jank

nah i disagree. never read schadd one way or another. them saying i.... what? tried 2 townread 'em? bullshitry. i dont abide by bullshitry.


if some1s gonna be tunneling me 2 days straight, town or scum, im expecting bigger guns from em d2. and yeah rn i dont care, even if schadd is green, idc. my vote my choice.

[Eiralox]

Eiralox, please post a read list.

Eiralox

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and it's 11:42 pm. imma stop wasting my time on tis.

[UltimateDetectiveKiriGiri]

Eiralox, please post a read list.

Eiralox

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and it's 11:42 pm. imma stop wasting my time on tis.

VOTE: Eiralox

[T3]

VOTE: Eiralox
Please can we throw this man into the pits of hell

[Gamma Emerald]

he was vibing town to me for a bit but not strongly enough to fight this
so I'll just sit here with mah popcorn

[Gamma Emerald]

Lock town:
Gamma Emerald
Malakittens

Solid town:
T3
Seanzie

Decently town?:
Eiralox

actively sus:
KittyTacky

remainder:
redcardinal
schadd_
Enchant
UltimateDetectiveKiriGiri
Haschel Cedricson

gonna snapshot my thoughts as of now

also I kinda feel like revising this because I don't feel like there's any immediate issue I have with UD, and hash shell seems kinda genuine about the kill reaction, so put them with eiralox

[T3]

I asked Eiralox why they voted Seanzie and there was no response whatsoever, Eiralox just unvotes Seanzie.,

[Gamma Emerald]

where did you ask that?

[T3]

VOTE: Seanzie

Care to explain your vote?

no

No as in “I don’t think it’s best if I explain?” Or no as in “I don’t feel like explaining?”

I don’t think Eiralox’s vote is necessarily scummy but I do want them to respond.

eiralox and gamma are scummy as fuck right now, aside from that I want to know what's going on with KT today bc crescent and I both saw scum/scum kt/galron, and crescent's fuckin dead so

Yeah, I’m not comfortable wagoning Seanzie or Gamma right now.
VOTE: KT
I don’t think Eiralox is necessarily scum for their naked vote on Seanzie and their refusal to explain, but their explanation will very much affect my read of them.

VOTE: Seanzie

Care to explain your vote?

no

No as in “I don’t think it’s best if I explain?” Or no as in “I don’t feel like explaining?”

Eiralox

can you please answer this.

i guess a lot of their posting seems to try to insulate against anyone following up on them and/or them being obligated to follow up on much of what they say

Yeah. I really want Eiralox to answer my question about their vote on Seanzie.

[T3]

I mentioned it

five times

and yet Eiralox makes no mention of it. If Eiralox was actually reading through the game and scumhunting, then they would have answered.

[Seanzie]

Eiralox's behavior today (and honestly yesterday too) has kind of felt like they're trying to fake a "I'm town and I don't give a crap" type vibe, but even though their words suggest this vibe, the feeling I get while reading their post is much more worried than they should be if this was genuine. I still think KT is pretty wolfy though, and kind of doubt KT/Eiralox is s/s due to their similarish treatment of me in the me/Gamma spat earlier, and all three things can't happen at once, so I'm clearly wrong somewhere.

[Enchant]

As person who always throw pearls like this, i find Eiralox more townie.

[KittyTacky]

if you brought it up, it's something you're aware of and thus able to subvert

How would I "subvert" something I do as a consequence of my poor tonal acumen that I do as BOTH alignments?

[KittyTacky]

Idk what you’re trying to say here

"I thought that was a post I made a while before the claim" is you saying you thought you had quoted Galron's first post a while before they had claimed, at least as far as I can tell.

You then say to Schadd that you quoted that post specifically because Galron mentioned content in their first post.

Galron mentioned content in their first post in the same post that they claimed.

How could you think that you quoted Galron's first post a while before Galron claimed when Galron's claim-post is the post that you are saying led you to quote Galron's first post? Like being a little forgetful about something is okay, but that's kind of a weird "Oh let me look into Galron's ISO because of their claim, but let me forget that this was about their claim" moment.

I'm not just "a little" forgetful. Especially early I can just not be feeling the game and make dumb errors like that. That is NAI for me, I am stupid as town too.

This feels like an off-color projection
Like yeah I had a lapse in recall but it was because I assumed Seanzie was trying to make a coherent argument and I filled in a blank with what I thought made it make sense to bring that up against me. I wasn’t “not feeling the game”.

I wasn't talking about you?

[KittyTacky]

Here’s the thing, Crescent dying imo suggests scum somehow still think I’m mislimmable. I fully expected to die Night 1, it’s not that rare for me these days! So Seanzie pushing against me here is a MASSIVE RED FLAG!
And like, I expect people to actually be able to use critical thinking to solve me. I specifically pushed out Galron as a litmus test for whether I had honed in on the tells another player had used to make an early call on a prior game scumbuddy of mine. If I was bussing, I don’t NEED to litmus test ANYTHING, I already KNOW Galron’s alignment!

Great school district

VOTE: crescent

wtf is the relevance of school district to anything in this game?

Actually, now that I'm looking at Gamma's ISO... this post... is quite oddly placed. I remembered seeing it originally and being like "why is Gamma quoting a weird post from the very beginning of the game?" but then, like magic, this post ends up being Galron's breadcrumb post. Chances Gamma just happens to drudge that post up literally a few posts after Galron's claim, so that Galron can "organically" point to their breadcrumb of their role and Gamma can back off Galron.

And they want to say I'm suspicious for unvoting Galron after their claim? Nah.

Hold the phone you might be on to something here

How about no?
Seanzie’s presentation of that is incredibly disingenuous. I thought that was a post I made a while before the claim but it was actually right after.. If it was a while back I’d understand the thought process that it was setting up Galron’s claim for later, but in proper context it feels like it should be obvious that was my genuine take on what looked like something outlandish. And claiming I was aiming to back off Galron grossly misrepresents my actual movement there, which is to say it suggests there was any movement at all! I didn’t unvote Galron while I was questioning his crumbing tendency as scum, and I in fact doubled down on pushing Galron using meta!

Do not fall for Seanzie’s shallow lies.

I'm also sus of people accusing me of bussing. But you first.

I'm assuming this is in response to my question. Explain these points in your own words, please. What makes me sus? You can reiterate Gamma's arguments, but I want to hear YOUR takes on Gamma's arguments.

My take is that I basically got mindmelded with Gamma. Her posts were basically what I wanted to say to case you and I see no point in reiterating them.

Oooorrr... your a wolf trying to borrow a case from a townie, and are scared to try to hash out your own takes on those events because everyone will see right through it. One or the other;)

Well it's one.

[KittyTacky]

I'm coming under pressure so I'll claim. I'm a PR and that's why I played shiftily. I'm a Town Roleblocker (no gates) and I blocked schadd_ the previous night.

The Gamma/Seanzie interactions are a slog and while I think both of them are town I also think that they should both feel bad for making us all read that.

I don't think Gamma's 739...

Here’s the thing, Crescent dying imo suggests scum somehow still think I’m mislimmable. I fully expected to die Night 1, it’s not that rare for me these days! So Seanzie pushing against me here is a MASSIVE RED FLAG!
And like, I expect people to actually be able to use critical thinking to solve me. I specifically pushed out Galron as a litmus test for whether I had honed in on the tells another player had used to make an early call on a prior game scumbuddy of mine. If I was bussing, I don’t NEED to litmus test ANYTHING, I already KNOW Galron’s alignment!

...is a great point, which makes it weird to see KittyTacky cite it as one of the points he agrees with.

Okay that makes some sense
Who did you expect would be killed?

T3. T3 checked the boxes of 1) Reasonably active, 2) Decent posts, and 3) Absolutely nobody expressing any suspicion of them so eliminating them keeps the viable lim pool as wide as possible.

that kill idea tracks
and yeh kittytacky is kinda where my suspicions land because I also think he is trying to argue a mindmeld that doesn't make sense, I think 739 makes sense at least fmpov, but KT citing it as a mindmeld point is not sensible given that.
plus, crescent kill could be one he sees as beneficial, I was TR kittytacky yday, crescent was thinking he could be SvS w galron, there was the seanzie read that kinda supplanted that but I TR Senazie now so the next spot my thoughts fall on the crescent kill is KT
VOTE: kittytacky

I would like more clear stances from schadd rn tho

Explain why it doesn't make sense as a mindmeld. Also, I don't push perfectly salvageable teammates as scum day 1.

[KittyTacky]

Crescent was killed to frame me IMHO.

[KittyTacky]

Here’s the thing, Crescent dying imo suggests scum somehow still think I’m mislimmable. I fully expected to die Night 1, it’s not that rare for me these days! So Seanzie pushing against me here is a MASSIVE RED FLAG!
And like, I expect people to actually be able to use critical thinking to solve me. I specifically pushed out Galron as a litmus test for whether I had honed in on the tells another player had used to make an early call on a prior game scumbuddy of mine. If I was bussing, I don’t NEED to litmus test ANYTHING, I already KNOW Galron’s alignment!

Great school district

VOTE: crescent

wtf is the relevance of school district to anything in this game?

Actually, now that I'm looking at Gamma's ISO... this post... is quite oddly placed. I remembered seeing it originally and being like "why is Gamma quoting a weird post from the very beginning of the game?" but then, like magic, this post ends up being Galron's breadcrumb post. Chances Gamma just happens to drudge that post up literally a few posts after Galron's claim, so that Galron can "organically" point to their breadcrumb of their role and Gamma can back off Galron.

And they want to say I'm suspicious for unvoting Galron after their claim? Nah.

Hold the phone you might be on to something here

How about no?
Seanzie’s presentation of that is incredibly disingenuous. I thought that was a post I made a while before the claim but it was actually right after.. If it was a while back I’d understand the thought process that it was setting up Galron’s claim for later, but in proper context it feels like it should be obvious that was my genuine take on what looked like something outlandish. And claiming I was aiming to back off Galron grossly misrepresents my actual movement there, which is to say it suggests there was any movement at all! I didn’t unvote Galron while I was questioning his crumbing tendency as scum, and I in fact doubled down on pushing Galron using meta!

Do not fall for Seanzie’s shallow lies.

I'm also sus of people accusing me of bussing. But you first.

Why are you suspicious of the people accusing you of bussing? Do you think that all of their points are entirely invalid and made up by scum?

Phoneposting is hard

I think there is nothing about my play around Galron that is indicative of bussing and so it's scum opportunism to get me killed along with him.

[KittyTacky]

Here’s the thing, Crescent dying imo suggests scum somehow still think I’m mislimmable. I fully expected to die Night 1, it’s not that rare for me these days! So Seanzie pushing against me here is a MASSIVE RED FLAG!
And like, I expect people to actually be able to use critical thinking to solve me. I specifically pushed out Galron as a litmus test for whether I had honed in on the tells another player had used to make an early call on a prior game scumbuddy of mine. If I was bussing, I don’t NEED to litmus test ANYTHING, I already KNOW Galron’s alignment!

Great school district

VOTE: crescent

wtf is the relevance of school district to anything in this game?

Actually, now that I'm looking at Gamma's ISO... this post... is quite oddly placed. I remembered seeing it originally and being like "why is Gamma quoting a weird post from the very beginning of the game?" but then, like magic, this post ends up being Galron's breadcrumb post. Chances Gamma just happens to drudge that post up literally a few posts after Galron's claim, so that Galron can "organically" point to their breadcrumb of their role and Gamma can back off Galron.

And they want to say I'm suspicious for unvoting Galron after their claim? Nah.

Hold the phone you might be on to something here

How about no?
Seanzie’s presentation of that is incredibly disingenuous. I thought that was a post I made a while before the claim but it was actually right after.. If it was a while back I’d understand the thought process that it was setting up Galron’s claim for later, but in proper context it feels like it should be obvious that was my genuine take on what looked like something outlandish. And claiming I was aiming to back off Galron grossly misrepresents my actual movement there, which is to say it suggests there was any movement at all! I didn’t unvote Galron while I was questioning his crumbing tendency as scum, and I in fact doubled down on pushing Galron using meta!

Do not fall for Seanzie’s shallow lies.

I'm also sus of people accusing me of bussing. But you first.

I'm assuming this is in response to my question. Explain these points in your own words, please. What makes me sus? You can reiterate Gamma's arguments, but I want to hear YOUR takes on Gamma's arguments.

My take is that I basically got mindmelded with Gamma. Her posts were basically what I wanted to say to case you and I see no point in reiterating them.

Oooorrr... your a wolf trying to borrow a case from a townie, and are scared to try to hash out your own takes on those events because everyone will see right through it. One or the other;)

I had like one town game in which I had a mind meld with someone and I locked them as town and I was right, then I proceeded to overuse the mind meld tell in all of my scum games in order to pocket people and it worked.

I mindmeld as town often but I usually just phrase it as sheeping.

[KittyTacky]

Eiralox, please post a read list.

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and it's 11:42 pm. imma stop wasting my time on tis.

Bruh if it's late then you say you do it tomorrow.
VOTE: Eiralox

[Enchant]

VOTE: Kitty

[Eiralox]

I mentioned it

five times

and yet Eiralox makes no mention of it. If Eiralox was actually reading through the game and scumhunting, then they would have answered.

i dont duck shit lines of inquiry, instead i utterly avoid em. no point.

i read ur spew and it was useless. i'm not seanzie's butlr and im not ur puppet. so no u ask something time-wasting --- i aint gonna waste my time.



if there aint at least one scum in Kitty, DetectiveGiri or Schadd_ I'll eat a hat.

@Kitty and @Giri expect something from me soon. i don't wanna vot Kitty rn cos thats a very hot wagon, so what i'll do is i'll start my case with these 2. expect a long post of considered analysis whenever i can be so arsed.

UNVOTE: Schadd_

like i think ur a loon for tunneling me since page 1 but rn i got bigger fish to fry. maybe ill vote u if u get annoying enough again ; )

[Eiralox]

I mentioned it

five times

and yet Eiralox makes no mention of it. If Eiralox was actually reading through the game and scumhunting, then they would have answered.

VOTE: Eiralox
Please can we throw this man into the pits of hell

eiralox when would you say your best solving occurs?

when i got a solid reason to push someone ill push someone. and i dont do meta nor self meta or whatever one would call it so for me to give an honest answer here based on divergent circumstance and investment wuld be folly. rn i simply dont like seanzies tone, i think seanzie wuld be some1 who anna kill cres(gut), an yeah i got nothing else to add. dont have a scum case here imma bugle about but seanzie,,,,, galron thing,,, eh idk my vote stays.

@Eiralox

y r u still voting sean?

i mean for now? cos it feels nice i guess. instinct tells me seanzie is scum but my eyes see posts that def can be townie. mostly seanzie's attitude just abrades my brain idk i guess some ppl just tick me off.

actually no UNVOTE: Seanzie


can always change back but rn ive been flirting around with this game 2 much. ill vote when i have a case. imma re-re-read d1 with cres flip in mind like whenever, that might be enlightening.

methinks uve not ben reading btw. just cos i dont wanna answer ur watery attempts at engagement doesnt mean i never gave any answer. like uve been the only townlean for me end d1 but rn T3 uve done the absurd and joined thos voting me for........ well lite reasons let's say. the only vote on me that il humor rn and say doesnt feel full scum is Schadd_'s cos at least they have the excuse that theyve been building to it. not that i townread schadd more than u. may seanzie has a point bout u? idk. all i know is feeling neglected cos i dont wanna answer your redundancies is not the best of reasons voting me. i suggest ya'll start building cases, and this counts double for Giri and Kitty, as i said above, worse 2 votes on me(one of them might be self-pressing scum at this point im feeling, with kitty having more incentive to self-pres, giri... with herschel... not so much but still this is the first time Kiri looks at me this game and it starts with a vote cos i dont do these early readlist things. whats the point if yall still so sus?

[Eiralox]

Eiralox, please post a read list.

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and it's 11:42 pm. imma stop wasting my time on tis.

Bruh if it's late then you say you do it tomorrow.
VOTE: Eiralox

h mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ok yah my resolve is set. im going to hunt Kitty/Giri cos rn im pretty sure there haz to be scum in on of em

[Eiralox]

I'm coming under pressure so I'll claim. I'm a PR and that's why I played shiftily. I'm a Town Roleblocker (no gates) and I blocked schadd_ the previous night.

ok wow i missed this. why schadd_? xplain succintly. rn i find ur vibe way scummy and im gonna be honest not trusting this claim 100%. i do gingerly vote on claims tho so rn suddenly i have to have a very real case if im even gonna consider voting ur direction.