Open 864 Thread 3

[Nona1510]

Actually nutmiel is looking better now but really didn’t like his opening. I still like obscure the best.

I’m glad we have two weeks though.

Hopefully Not Mafia posts something before then.

Galron not being willing to read any other threads looks really bad.

What do you like about obscure, Nona? I find obscure to be sus.

Oh really? What do you find sus about them?

Tone is too casual, feels forced. Hutmeil is more earnest.

You think obscure seems “casual”? That’s not my impression. They seem really passionate. The only one really not doing much is Yume.

As for Gamma’s thread. YourHighness is the only one doing anything. If they’re not the vt in that, then one of NM, Galron is really dropping the ball.

[Nona1510]

thread 2 i still think obscure is town, huntmeal seems overly friendly in the mafia way and is trying to get the ics on his side and itskinda wierd and yumi sound like he is lying through the teeth, like he had pain typing his words so ya i pick obscure there

Damn I feel bad for huntmeal. I mean Nutmeil was bad enough, but sheeeeeeesh

Yeah poor Oatmeal. Sorry, just couldn’t help myself. XD

[Bellaphant]

Yeah, it's not yume

Mixed feelings on obscure, this game is weird in which you feel like you should go for the 'obvious ' choice but should you???

[furtiveglance]

I bet the start of scumchat was like this:
Mafia 1: We should do Good Cop Bad Cop, like one of us be obvious mafia, one of us be shadow of doubt.
Mafia 2: Ok, I'll be obvious mafia.
Mafia 1: Noo I wanted to be obvious mafia!

[Bellaphant]

Yeah, I feel that

[furtiveglance]

And the name's

hutmeil

(not high, not oatmeal, not nutmeil, not huntmeal)

Damn fr?

[furtiveglance]

the read on me. Like, you can't think of a real reason to scumread me because you know I'm a townie.

I'm a little torn between nonna and Bella as the townie in their thread. I need to read more carefully later.

Obscure, what makes you think Malakittens is mafia?

[furtiveglance]

Yeah, it's not yume

Mixed feelings on obscure, this game is weird in which you feel like you should go for the 'obvious ' choice but should you???

Is obscure the 'obvious' town or not?

And who are you thinking for Gamma Emerald's thread?

[Bellaphant]

I thought they were early on, yeah .

[Bellaphant]

Nm is scum, obviously. Your highness is the only one that looks like solving, but it's actually really pro scum for a acun to say the town is deffo between one scum and one town in the other threads.

[Bellaphant]

Maybe controversial actually but I really dislike obscures post to hotmail.com about making up reasons to scum read, as it just throws shade without actually advancing the point of the thread.

[furtiveglance]

Nm is scum, obviously. Your highness is the only one that looks like solving, but it's actually really pro scum for a acun to say the town is deffo between one scum and one town in the other threads.

So you're saying it's between YH and Galron?

[furtiveglance]

Maybe controversial actually but I really dislike obscures post to hotmail.com about making up reasons to scum read, as it just throws shade without actually advancing the point of the thread.

How controversial is this opinion really, given that I said this earlier?

Actually nutmiel is looking better now but really didn’t like his opening. I still like obscure the best.

I’m glad we have two weeks though.

Hopefully Not Mafia posts something before then.

Galron not being willing to read any other threads looks really bad.

What do you like about obscure, Nona? I find obscure to be sus.

[Malakittens]

Hotmail

Oh I haven’t heard that in forever. Poor hutmeil his name is being butchered left and right

Tbh N_M not wanting to read other threads or comment isn’t exactly out of his townrange or scum range. I was surprised when he joined it bc i knew it wasn’t gonna be his cup of tea

[furtiveglance]

Hotmail

Oh I haven’t heard that in forever. Poor hutmeil his name is being butchered left and right

Tbh N_M not wanting to read other threads or comment isn’t exactly out of his townrange or scum range. I was surprised when he joined it bc i knew it wasn’t gonna be his cup of tea

So you think NM could be the town? Or do you prefer Galron/YH?

[Nona1510]

The crazy thing is that why is hutmeil making reads on obscure and Yume? Seems completely pointless. It’s like he seems to be saying that if I didn’t know my alignment, these are the reads I would have. And I have to convince the IC, well that’s true for everyone who’s not the actual IC.

I’m just going to focus on trying to find the other two vts and that’s what I think the focus needs to be for whomever the other two vts are.

Right now, still lean obscure over hutmeil but he’s looking a lot better, still not a fan of his entrance though. NM probably looks the worst in Gamma’s thread but Galron really doesn’t look much better. As long as YourHighness is the only one doing anything, it’s seems reasonable to think it’s him.

Neither NM or Galron are doing any solving and that also extends to Yume in Auro’s thread, so based off of what we’re seeing so far, that’s where I am currently.

[furtiveglance]

I think I'm currently leaning towards obscure as this thread's VT. What do you think, fellow ICs?

I'm thinking hutmeil is more sincere.

[furtiveglance]

Here's a maths question for anyone interested: Is the probably of all ICs getting it right first time 1/27 (1/3 cubed)? Or am I getting it wrong? I've got to 1/27 of insta town win, 8/27 of insta maf win (2/3 cubed), and therefore 18/27 = 2/3 of us having a final round.

[Bellaphant]

It's much more likely to go into a final round and much less likely for a town win. It's kind of why I don't want today to drag on - it also gives mafoa way more info for next round - for example, If nm is town then he's always going to be picked rn if we have a next round I think it's hard at the moment for mafia to plan overall for round two though, it really is a game of two halves.

Think it's 1/3 X 1/3 x 1/3 so yeah.

[furtiveglance]

Assuming there is a 2nd round, we'll have a group of 3 non ICs which is neither all town nor all mafia. That's useful info at least.

[Nona1510]

I think unless not doing much of anything is scum indicative for all the players this could conceivably apply to, it’s probably unlikely we get it right on the first try

That said, rushing solves makes no sense here. If we can get it right on the first try, then so much better. Only negative is the possibility of apathy setting in.

I personally find the other two threads extremely frustrating to read when compared with ours and when you consider that those are the only two I can actually try to solve, it just gets really boring waiting for someone in the other threads to post.

[furtiveglance]

I think unless not doing much of anything is scum indicative for all the players this could conceivably apply to, it’s probably unlikely we get it right on the first try

Are you saying you don't think that Your Highness/Hutmeil/Obscure contains the other 2 town? They're the more active players in the other threads.

[Nona1510]

I think unless not doing much of anything is scum indicative for all the players this could conceivably apply to, it’s probably unlikely we get it right on the first try

Are you saying you don't think that Your Highness/Hutmeil/Obscure contains the other 2 town? They're the more active players in the other threads.

If things continue the way they have been, then I would say. it’s probably likely that this is the case. I think if YourHighness isn’t the vt, he probably cannot maintain that same high level of efforting and I think that which is the town in Hutmeil, Obscure because I think scum is less likely to be motivated to try to solve, should hopefully become very obvious over time.

I would love it if all of the ICs laid out their respective points wrt both hutmeil and obscure. I still don’t understand why you don’t feel obscure is sincere? I have the exact opposite impression.

[Bellaphant]

Assuming there is a 2nd round, we'll have a group of 3 non ICs which is neither all town nor all mafia. That's useful info at least.

Can you explain this? I thought say 2 was just the same set up again with a bit more scum influence

[Bellaphant]

Hi obscure - I dunno, I think my frustration is mainly with the set up - what is the point of these threads indeed I feel like town focus should be on looking town rather than proving the others are scum, because it feels really fruitless to me

I dunno - in a normal mafia game I'd be tr-ing you and Hotmail, plus Nona, plus your highness and have nm as null, and the rest as scum. But that's useless!