Micro 1061: If Trees Could Scream [Game Over]

furtiveglance · Post Post #625 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:22 am

In post 624, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:@furtive, what do you think about what Enchant is suggesting? Do you think Ff should out but obviously NOT claim targets?

I’m seriously reconsidering switching my vote to Porkens. But first, I want to hear more discussion about what Enchant is suggesting.

Are you in favour of ff outing or you think it’s best that they stay hidden? I haven’t yet made up my mind on that, so I want to hear opinions on that other than Enchant’s.

If Porkens is Firefighter, yeah say that. Otherwise I'm tunnelled as hell!

Enchant · Post Post #626 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:25 am

In post 624, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:@furtive, what do you think about what Enchant is suggesting? Do you think Ff should out but obviously NOT claim targets?

I’m seriously reconsidering switching my vote to Porkens. But first, I want to hear more discussion about what Enchant is suggesting.

Are you in favour of ff outing or you think it’s best that they stay hidden? I haven’t yet made up my mind on that, so I want to hear opinions on that other than Enchant’s.

What YOU think

Don Draper x Mistress · Post Post #627 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:27 am

In post 625, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 624, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:@furtive, what do you think about what Enchant is suggesting? Do you think Ff should out but obviously NOT claim targets?

I’m seriously reconsidering switching my vote to Porkens. But first, I want to hear more discussion about what Enchant is suggesting.

Are you in favour of ff outing or you think it’s best that they stay hidden? I haven’t yet made up my mind on that, so I want to hear opinions on that other than Enchant’s.
If Porkens is Firefighter, yeah say that. Otherwise I'm tunnelled as hell!

I think the same should probably apply to Ircher as well and maybe Scrrrrbear but haven’t made up my mind on that yet. I think that could be a reasonable compromise. I don’t think ff should claim if they are not amongst those three.

furtiveglance · Post Post #628 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:32 am

Enchant will you vote Porkens? Don refuses.

Aisa · Post Post #629 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:33 am

3.01

Votecount 3.01

Ircher (1):

Don Draper x Mistress.

Porkens (1):

furtiveglance.

Enchant (1):

Porkens.

Not Voting (4):

Vanderscamp, Ircher, Enchant, SCRRRDBEAR.

Tree-stumps:

Titus, Herta.

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 to axe someone. Day 3 ends in (expired on 2022-10-24 18:25:00).

Enchant · Post Post #630 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:35 am

In post 628, furtiveglance wrote:Enchant will you vote Porkens? Don refuses.

I vote no one, before i am sure.

Don Draper x Mistress · Post Post #631 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:36 am

In post 626, Enchant wrote:
In post 624, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:@furtive, what do you think about what Enchant is suggesting? Do you think Ff should out but obviously NOT claim targets?

I’m seriously reconsidering switching my vote to Porkens. But first, I want to hear more discussion about what Enchant is suggesting.

Are you in favour of ff outing or you think it’s best that they stay hidden? I haven’t yet made up my mind on that, so I want to hear opinions on that other than Enchant’s.
What YOU think

Just answered. My current PoE is Ircher/Porkens/Scrrrbear and I think if any of those are ff, particularly Ircher or Porkens, I’m in favour. If ff is ANYONE ELSE, I think they should probably relain hidden, since I have no intention of voting for anyone today not in those three.

I don’t think it helps us for ff to out if they are not amongst Ircher/Porkens/Scrrrbear. Main reason for them to out is that we don’t accidentally miselim them and we aren’t going to lim anyone else, soif if it’s not in those three, arsonists don’t really need to know who it is.

As you already pointed out, ff shouldn’t claim targets which obviously goes without saying and just puts an unnecessary target on their back, so I would advise ff to claim if they’re getting run up. Ff doesn’t have better reads than trees, so I don’t see how it’s helpful for ff to out if they’re not at risk of being miselimed.

Don Draper x Mistress · Post Post #632 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:38 am

In post 628, furtiveglance wrote:Enchant will you vote Porkens? Don refuses.

I never said that. Why do you keep saying that? I said I’m considering switching my vote to them. How are you getting refusal from that?

furtiveglance · Post Post #633 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:48 am

In post 632, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 628, furtiveglance wrote:Enchant will you vote Porkens? Don refuses.
I never said that. Why do you keep saying that? I said I’m considering switching my vote to them. How are you getting refusal from that?

I'm getting refusal from your vote being on a different player.

Don Draper x Mistress · Post Post #634 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:49 am

In post 630, Enchant wrote:
In post 628, furtiveglance wrote:Enchant will you vote Porkens? Don refuses.
I vote no one, before i am sure.

+1

This is wise. @furtive, I don’t understand why you’re trying to rush the vote?

Vanders, Scrrrbear, Ircher and Herta haven’t even posted yet. What if you’re wrong? You were on Pooky in LOST. I think Porkens is pretty scummy but not enough to ram a lim through before everyone has even gotten a chance to post.

Don Draper x Mistress · Post Post #635 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:50 am

In post 633, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 632, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 628, furtiveglance wrote:Enchant will you vote Porkens? Don refuses.
I never said that. Why do you keep saying that? I said I’m considering switching my vote to them. How are you getting refusal from that?
I'm getting refusal from your vote being on a different player.

Then you’re misreading. I’m not rushing the day, especially since not everyone has even posted yet.

Don Draper x Mistress · Post Post #636 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:52 am

@Porkens, your Enchant vote is terrible. He is really obvtown.

furtiveglance · Post Post #637 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:56 am

In post 634, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 630, Enchant wrote:
In post 628, furtiveglance wrote:Enchant will you vote Porkens? Don refuses.
I vote no one, before i am sure.
+1

This is wise. @furtive, I don’t understand why you’re trying to rush the vote?

Vanders, Scrrrbear, Ircher and Herta haven’t even posted yet. What if you’re wrong? You were on Pooky in LOST. I think Porkens is pretty scummy but not enough to ram a lim through before everyone has even gotten a chance to post.

Don't have to ram it through, but I'm not changing

Don Draper x Mistress · Post Post #638 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:59 am

That’s fine, I’m not opposed. I just want to hear from everyone and not rush the day. Remember there are txo arsonists and it would be awesome to catch both today and that’s why we need to hear from ideally EVERYONE.

Don Draper x Mistress · Post Post #639 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:09 am

To be extremely clear if Enchant looks to be in any danger, I will ram it through because he is so obviously not arsonist.

Porkens · Post Post #640 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:19 am

Oh really? Why such a strong read? I don’t like their posting style this game

Don Draper x Mistress · Post Post #641 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:21 am

In post 640, Porkens wrote:Oh really? Why such a strong read? I don’t like their posting style this game

Why what makes them scummy to you?

And what are your thoughts on furtive pushing you and what Enchant said about Ff?

Don Draper x Mistress · Post Post #642 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:29 am

In post 269, Titus wrote:
In post 260, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 259, Titus wrote:Scum will favor lurker pushes here. Lurkers are more likely to give up if miseliminated. Only if scum can't get a lurker will they push active people. Hence why I FoS Bear there.
Do you think Scrrrdbear 'couldn't get' Enchant/Porkens? I'm still voting Porkens
Not without yelling and dominating.
There's also the fact that Enchant is obvtown.
Do you really expect Bear to be able to push a case where little to no evidence exists and there's meta evidence for town Enchant?

Porkens might be an easier sell but still would require a dramatic shift.

Third, hard pushing a lurker might draw them to play. Scum want lurkers to lurk.

Titus said she was obvtown reading that slot, yet you vote him and reference Titus, why? Does it not concern you at all, that you are literally the only player pushing Enchant?

In post 597, Porkens wrote:VOTE: enchant
agreed titus

Don Draper x Mistress · Post Post #643 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:29 am

In post 642, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 269, Titus wrote:
In post 260, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 259, Titus wrote:Scum will favor lurker pushes here. Lurkers are more likely to give up if miseliminated. Only if scum can't get a lurker will they push active people. Hence why I FoS Bear there.
Do you think Scrrrdbear 'couldn't get' Enchant/Porkens? I'm still voting Porkens
Not without yelling and dominating.
There's also the fact that Enchant is obvtown.
Do you really expect Bear to be able to push a case where little to no evidence exists and there's meta evidence for town Enchant?

Porkens might be an easier sell but still would require a dramatic shift.

Third, hard pushing a lurker might draw them to play. Scum want lurkers to lurk.
Titus said HE was obvtown reading that slot, yet you vote him and reference Titus, why? Does it not concern you at all, that you are literally the only player pushing Enchant?

In post 597, Porkens wrote:VOTE: enchant
agreed titus

Don Draper x Mistress · Post Post #644 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:32 am

@Titus, what do you think about Porkens pushing Enchant who I’m assuming still obvtown read?

Vanderscamp · Post Post #645 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:49 am

In post 596, Titus wrote:There should be scum on Herta. Scum knew he wasn't doused.

Probably. And Herta definitely wasn't doused.

I can see it happening with five town but the team where this isn't true is porkens/furtive which is possible but very unlikely.

Vanderscamp · Post Post #646 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:51 am

In post 601, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 591, Aisa wrote:
2.final
Votecount 2.final

Herta (5):
Vanderscamp, Ircher, SCRRRDBEAR, Don Draper x Mistress, Enchant -
Axed
.

Not Voting (3):
Porkens, furtiveglance, Herta.

Tree-stumps:
Titus.

With 8 players alive, it took 5 to axe someone.
However we will have to vote for someone. It’s not us, obviously not furtive. My guess could be Ircher/Scrrbear maybe?

Why is it obviously not furtive?

I haven't been townreading basically anything they've said in the last several days.

Vanderscamp · Post Post #647 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:53 am

In post 615, Enchant wrote:Firefighter should claim imo.

I don't think this is necessary.

Vanderscamp · Post Post #648 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:54 am

In post 622, Enchant wrote:Firefigher should claim and lead town as conftown. His "protections" are unneeded now.

It's likely that FF was doused anyway. I am not sure how gasolines view me, but they probably didn't douse me either (i would't honestly).
And i am not FF
. Therefore, it raises chances that FF is already doomed and should claim for atleast some benefit.

Any late, and arsos probably counterclaim/win already.

I don't think this is pro-town but I like you doing this

Vanderscamp · Post Post #649 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:57 am

In post 624, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:@furtive, what do you think about what Enchant is suggesting? Do you think Ff should out but obviously NOT claim targets?

I’m seriously reconsidering switching my vote to Porkens. But first, I want to hear more discussion about what Enchant is suggesting.

Are you in favour of ff outing or you think it’s best that they stay hidden? I haven’t yet made up my mind on that, so I want to hear opinions on that other than Enchant’s.

I don't think we really need it to happen, I don't think we're so uncoordinated that we won't be able to come together unanimously to kill someone without a confirmed town, partially because I think you're very town and I agree with you that I want to kill Ircher.

I don't think it's a guarantee that FF has been doused yet and I'd rather reduce the information the scum team gets regarding whether they should douse tonight.